[Tuthmosis]

(03-14-2012 05:39 PM)Moma Wrote:  

He was grabbing his dick before they even approached. I can't see the rabbit punch...

Watch her right arm, then watch his wincing. You can't see the punch, but you can see his reflex when her arm goes forward. You have to watch it several times. I'm convinced she squeezed or punched his nuts. It becomes clear once you spot it.

[el mechanico]

That dude practiced that shot many times and lined her up. He knew he was going to do that. Anyway I think he was a little over the top but girls really need to learn not to bow up to guys. They think they are not going to get hurt and have way too much confidence.

[Tuthmosis]

I'm 110 percent sure she squeezed or hit his nuts. It's hard to capture in a screen cap (since you have to see the guy's change in posture and his gag-like body motion), but this is the moment. You can see her (right) arm near his nuts and his body bent in pain.

   

[thegmanifesto]

We need to get our terminology straight.

A "rabbit punch" is a punch to the back of the head.

(03-14-2012 05:44 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

That dude practiced that shot many times and lined her up.

Agree 100%.

That was premeditated.

He knew what he was doing. He got his hip into it. (Unlike 99% of guys on internet fight videos).

That was a legit shot.

For the record, I am of the belief that the guy was 100% wrong.

Quote:

I'm 110 percent she squeezed or hit his nuts. It's hard to capture in a screen cap (since you have to see the guy's change in posture and his gag-like body motion), but this is the moment. You can see her (right) arm near his nuts and his body bent in pain.

No way Tuth.

He was generating power from his hip to come thru.

I wasn't there so you could be right, but I highly (99.9%) doubt it.

[Tuthmosis]

Another piece of proof is where the bystander's gaze is. He's looking down, to where the nut-squeeze is happening. Why else would he be looking right there, right then?

   

[thegmanifesto]

(03-14-2012 05:54 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Another piece of proof is where the bystander's gaze is. He's looking down, to where the nut-squeeze is happening. Why else would he be looking right there, right then?

She is short.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-14-2012 05:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

She is short.

He's not looking at her. He's looking between them, at the point of contact. The alternative is that guy bent like that to avoid a nut squeeze or hit, but she definitely has her right arm near his crotch and he definitely body-waves in reaction to something in that area.

[Samseau]

Tuth makes a convincing case. She grabbed his nuts and twisted.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-14-2012 05:58 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(03-14-2012 05:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

She is short.

He's not looking at her. He's looking between them, at the point of contact. The alternative is that guy bent like that to avoid a nut squeeze or hit, but she definitely has her right arm near his crotch and he definitely body-waves in reaction to something in that area.

Damn Tuth.

You must have 20/5 vision of something.

It is impossible to argue with you since you know how to make all these screen shot things.

I know when to cut my losses.

Seriously you should start up some kind of "Video Analysis" biz.

You would probably make a ton of scratch from law enforcement and law firms.

[el mechanico]

I see it Tuth. She went for it but that dude lined the shot up. That elbow move is not a natural reaction to having your nuts squeezed. You're going to spin out of it and grab her from the back of the head. If he wasn't planning on that he would have spun back one step with the right foot then back into her. If it was an afterthought he would have spun out and re-engaged.

[Kitsune]

I can't see what Tuth sees, though the screen shots make it ambiguous.

What does weird me out though, and I've seen this regularly in real life and this video, is that girls think they can escalate with a man. Regardless of who is right or wrong, its another symptom of telling everyone they're equal.

As a smaller guy watching the video, I would not have reinitiated that guy - he's clearly drunk and looking to start shit. Why a girl tihnks she's indestructable (i.e. Not going to get blasted in the face) is beyond me.

The whole situation is sad.
That said, unless the guys balls were getting squeezed, that was one hell of an overblown shot.

[el mechanico]

(03-14-2012 06:31 PM)Kitsune Wrote:  

I can't see what Tuth sees, though the screen shots make it ambiguous.

What does weird me out though, and I've seen this regularly in real life and this video, is that girls think they can escalate with a man. Regardless of who is right or wrong, its another symptom of telling everyone they're equal.

As a smaller guy watching the video, I would not have reinitiated that guy - he's clearly drunk and looking to start shit. Why a girl tihnks she's indestructable (i.e. Not going to get blasted in the face) is beyond me.

The whole situation is sad.
That said, unless the guys balls were getting squeezed, that was one hell of an overblown shot.

I bet she wont do it again! Like you said. You wouldn't want any. Why should she?

This video is making me want to go to the most violent bars in town tonight. I think I will.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-14-2012 06:17 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Damn Tuth.

You must have 20/5 vision of something.

It is impossible to argue with you since you know how to make all these screen shot things.

I know when to cut my losses.

Seriously you should start up some kind of "Video Analysis" biz.

Without getting into detail, I considered some related work not along ago. My vision is actually 20/10, though.

FYI: Making screen caps, just hit Shift + Print Screen and paste into an editing program of your choice.

Here's one final revision to that last screen cap that I think makes it even more undeniable. Look at her knee(s).

   

[Samseau]

Well, one area I think you're mistaken, Tuth:

The bystander (looks like his friend) was just checking his cell the entire time, which is why he's looking down.


Damn cellphones.

[Timoteo]

It's unclear to me that he spit ON her, but may have simply spit on the ground as they walked past. We can guess that he may have said something crude. She shouldn't have turned around and engaged him. Women don't assume that I guy might hit them. Most guys wouldn't do that. She was equally stupid for letting him put his arm around her. It was obviously a hostile situation, and she allowed him to put his hands on her. His only intent was to hold her head still so he could smash her in the face. This is a bonafide assault - something he should be incarcerated for. But she has to accept some of the blame for what happened to her. He was staggering on his merry way, and she re-engaged him. Drunks can be dangerous, and in his state some can be the angry type and not thinking clearly. They can do the kind of things they might WANT to do sober, but need the liquid courage. Let's hope someone spits at/on him, he objects, and then gets HIS face pushed in by someone with an equally short fuse.

[WesternCancer]

Tuthmosis in his late 40s



but if you look at it more closely just as shes approaching him it looks kind of like shes reaching around. maybe she grabbed his balls from behind or something.

[alphaspiraton]

My field of work requires extreme attention to detail but damn Tuth that's a whole other level. Quite impressive. With the points you just came up with I think you could easily convince a jury!

And legally speaking, she precipitated the assault by coming back to HIM so she would be at fault as well. And perhaps another camera angle would reveal a slow twisting and painful grabbing of his private area. Very likely otherwise he has no reason to punch her in the face out of the blue. At least the other passerby would have acted slightly negatively.

I'm tempted to make a comment on that site directing people to the rooshvforum for an in-depth analysis of the situation. XD

[alphaspiraton]

Dupe*

[soup]

(03-14-2012 02:08 PM)Laser Wrote:  

Here's a video that's a little trickier:

Doing this in front of the children was clearly wrong, but without the children, the situation is much more ambiguous.

Guy was clearly acting in a threatening manner (kicking tv and getting in her face), but the things she said and her actions clearly escalate the situation. Also she hit him first.

I generally feel like if you hit someone, you shouldn't be surprised if you get hit back even harder, regardless of gender. However, justified or not, he probably shouldn't have hit her if only because with the way society and the court system is, he'll be getting fucked for sure.

It looks like he's getting up in her space and she's trying to push him away, not like she punched him. Either way, this guy sounds and is acting like an overgrown child. Arguing over a playstation and TV?

In the same way that they make people pass a test to drive a car, they should have some kind of test that people should take in order to be able to have kids.

[germanico]

Related to the Limbaugh thread.

How is it not ok to hit a woman, but its perfectly ok to insult her?

[Giovonny]

The guy who "punched" the girl in front of their kids is way out of line. I'm not saying that the girl didn't possibly have it coming, but to punch her in front of the kids is bad news. That's setting a bad example for the children and putting them at risk to have some "issues" when they get older. The son is more likely to have anger and behavior issues and the daughter is more likely to be a big slut. Being a bad dad is beta.

This shows a lack of self control. Now, she will probably call the cops and he will go to jail. Is that really worth it? Over some girl!?! She won. That's what she wanted. Now he looks like the bad guy and will get fucked in the divorce. She hijacked his emotions! Bad inner game!

I'm not saying that there is never a time to hit a woman, there is. Just like there is a time to beat up a man smaller then you or a man younger then you. Shit, we even slap our kids and our dogs sometimes if they do something really stupid!

But, to punch a woman like that, this was clearly not the time.

The first guy who got hit in the balls, allegedly, was also out of line! He didn't have to smash her like that. Let's assume he did get hit in the balls. Still, there is no excuse for this type of excessive force. You are not fighting for the mma championship of the world, you are correcting a woman!

I think we all can agree that clearly,

He should have slapped her... with his off hand!

[Tuthmosis]

(03-15-2012 02:33 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

The first guy who got hit in the balls, allegedly, was also out of line! He didn't have to smash her like that. Let's assume he did get hit in the balls. Still, there is no excuse for this type of excessive force. You are not fighting for the mma championship of the world, you are correcting a woman!

Maybe, but I consider going for my nuts a very serious offense. I probably would kick someone who succeeded in making hard contact with them--irrespective of gender--a few times while they were down.

Hitting me anywhere else without doing damage (for a weaker, less threatening person, like a woman) would result little more than a minor knock, a push, or even a verbal threat--enough to make it clear that further misbehavior will not be tolerated. I'm pretty forgiving, actually, but stay away from my junk. That's a dangerous gamble, and I will make you pay dearly if I manage to overpower you.