A Complete Dating Guide For Mainland Chinese Women
Introduction:
This Guide is designed to help Westerners, date women in mainland China. (中国) (Zhong guo) (Means Central Country. The Chinese thought China was the center of the universe). I am an American, so much of what I write will come from that viewpoint. This guide will be very politically incorrect. This guide is NOT very useful for rampant WHOREMONGERING or P4P (Paying for pussy). You have been warned. In my opinion P4P in China is that it is a waste of money, stupid, and completely unnecessary.
Instead of people having to go search for my posts about China all over the various forums, you can get that information here in one place. This guide will be long, but if you are interested, it will be worth reading it. I will break this down into various chapters or sections.
My Story
Why Date Chinese Women?
Chinese History, Culture, Language and why it is Important? Do your Homework First!
Understanding Chinese Women
Dating Site Methods, Strategies, and Approaches to Dating Chinese Women
Special Game Advice for Black Men
NightClub and Night Game
Bad Girls vs Naughty vs Good Girls, The Differences Between Them, and Where They Can Be Found
Game Advice for Poor Vs Rich Girls
Travel in/Traveling to China
Manners (Do's and Dont's)
Avoiding Challenges/Potential Dangers/You Gotta Understand How China Works
How to Bring A Wife/Potential Wife back to the US
If you need help understanding the Chinese phrases and words used in this guide, go here for a great glossary:
http://www.chinasmack.com/glossary
My Story:
I am a Black American male. I was married to a Black American woman for 2 years and lived with her for about 3 years before that. That marriage and relationship was terrible for reasons not worth writing about because everyone here knows why and can use their imagination. I tried dating Chinese women here in the US even, only to fail for the most part. I have dated many Chinese women in China and I currently have a Chinese wife. So I know many sides of the equation. I have also done business on and off with China for many years with US based and other multinational companies.
I have a minor in Chinese language from a university.
My basic disclaimer is that I cannot guarantee success from my guide, but you can find success if you do not abandon self-improvement and game. Don't look at my personal success as just being lucky. That is just not true at all. Many others have done the same thing. Remember there are 1.3 billion Chinese people. There are roughly 650 million Chinese women. America has roughly 350 million people of all ages! Always remember that.
Why Date Chinese Women
I can say sappy shit like, "They are the best Women in the whole world!", but I will spare you that tired cliché. I will provide a short list of their best qualities many of them have:
Chinese Women:
1. Are EXTREMELY Loyal!
2. Are Very Practical.
3. Are very dedicated and express love with actions, not words. Talk is CHEAP to them.
4. Most are very traditional!
5. Are very beautiful, and age very well too!
I could go on and list things like their hair is awesome, they look amazing in qipao dresses, eyes, etc.. but those things are just cherries on top for the most part, and not the main focus of this guide.
Q: What is an example of the loyalty Kai?
A: Ever saw that evil old man Rubert Murdoch about to be hit in the face with a cream pie by some UK journalist? His Chinese wife Wendy, quickly dashed pass Rupert's fat a** bodyguard, and smacked the SHIT out of that guy preventing him from landing that pie on anyone. The "Chinese Tiger Wife" can serve MANY functions.... NUFF SAID!
Q: What is an example of the practicality Kai?
A: They tend to be very frugal and do not make unnecessary expenditures. They may even ride you for "wasting money", like for staying in 5 and 4 star hotels, when there are cheaper ones around. Far from the stupid and inaccurate stereotype of "Gold-digger Asian women" you see thrown around. In fact, while traveling around in China with your girlfriend, you may have to insist upon nicer stuff to suit your own levels of comfort!! Do not be surprised if you have to do that! There is a reason why Chinese people have many many times more money in savings than their American counterparts do!
Q: What is an example of this dedication and love expression?
A: I will give you a personal one. My first time meeting my eventual wife, we were getting ready to go eat food somewhere, she checked me out first to see if my clothes were too wrinkled, lint, etc. Then she picked a nasty booger out of my nose, finished checking my face, then gave me the OK. Need I say more? There was no hesitation in her movements, she was smiling, and thought nothing of it. I said nothing to her about it either. I double dog dare anyone to ask an American Woman to do this for you!
Q: Kai what is an example of Chinese girls being very traditional?
A: There are too many examples to choose from, but they are raised to follow their husbands. There is a Chinese parable about wherever the male monkey goes, the female must follow behind. I may have botched the translation a little bit, but you get the idea. They already come with these "built in" qualities. DO NOT be shocked while chatting with Chinese ladies, in person or online, if they ask you if it is time for you to go to bed or have you eaten lunch yet, or many other things. It's like they are wired to tend to a man's needs! Don't be a sandy vag mangina, whining about "she is trying to control me" bullshit either. Do you want a real woman or a new-world-order fuck buddy? Can't always have both.
Q: What is an example of this beauty Kai?
A: Look at the photos in this guide or here. Also this should be a given but any 6 or 7 in China is likely a 7 or 8 in the US. Just in case someone reading this doesn't know that.
Look at these Chinese girls in qipao http://www.lovelovechina.com/fashion/my-qipao-mission/![[Image: biggrin.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Chinese History, Culture, Language and why it is Important? Do your Homework First!
Chinese history spans at least 5000 years! Compare that to America's less than 300 or so, and it helps to paint a picture. Nah it can be tough to comprehend that. It really can be. Chinese mentality has changed alot, but in many ways, it has changed very little. Much of their value system comes from Confucian Ideals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism Wikipedia keeps it very short, sweet, and to the point. Those are the basic 7 themes the women will be looking for consciously, or sub-consciously!
At this point it is time to introduce you to Crystal Tao's website called http://www.lovelovechina.com/archives/
Go here and read through those archives. Crystal is a Chinese lady from Chongqing, she married a laowai (foreigner/you), and her website contains a wealth of knowledge on how to date Chinese Women and how to understand them. After she got married she quit the site, but left the articles for other to learn and use.
Expand out the various months, and check out the articles of interest. The comments sections sometimes has interesting nuggets in there too. If you read that entire website, you probably would not need this guide too much. Seriously. The value of this guide is to give you quicker 10,000 foot views, mixed with some granular details, from an American MAN's perspective!
That said lets go over some various highlights in the next section:
Understanding Chinese Women
Chinese women are very simple to learn and even though it may seem complex, they are not. That is because Chinese history and culture is more complex. The women really are not that complex themselves. Here are a few key reasons why:
1. They are blunt. Very direct and straight to the point most of the time. If there was a type of woman a real logic driven man can get along nicely with it would be the blunt nature of a prudent straight forward type. Chinese women and UK women are definitely these types. Another way to look at it is to look at Chinese language itself. (Wo yao chi fan) That literally means in English, I want to eat rice/food. Chinese language is not as overflowing with unnecessary words like English is. It is very simple and to the point. The downside is that the details are not as specific.
Don't expect SNL style humor to come out of the mouth of a Chinese woman either. They can be snide or sarcastic but that is only after you have made several snide remarks first! You may find yourself picking at them for a little while with humor or jokes, and they never bite. Then hours or days later, they bring one of those jokes up again and it busts you over the head nicely with it! You have been warned. Seriously they are very witty they just don't like to use it the same way Western Women do. If they tell you that you are getting too fat, they are not talking shit to you. They just want you to do better. Don't take it personal. If a Chinese woman says something that sounds "fucked-up" to you, see where they were going with that first, because you really do not know really know what they mean by that or if they meant harm to you. Ask for clarity or re-read what they say multiple times. It doesn't mean what you probably think it means.
2. Typical Chinese women have simple aspirations. They are looking for a handful of things (in no order):
A) A man that is nice to them and treats them well. (get along well)
B) A man that treats his family and her's well with respect, etc.
C) A man that is financially and socially responsible. Has a plan, etc (you do not have to be rich!)
D) A random fetish/desire of some kind. (White skin/blue eyes/blond hair/mixed-baby/ six pack abs/tall/sexy eyebrows/big arm muscles/not very hairy body/etc....)
3. Chinese women are not picky about looks. They are picky about what they want though! Take my lady for example, she cannot stand skinny men. She never cared for what race of the man she was looking for, but any skinny guy Chinese or otherwise, would have bothered her, or got no attention from her. Then when she meets me, a black guy with muscles, she goes
-Time for some more realism. Most Chinese women, if they had a choice, always want what they want, but in a Chinese man FIRST! Anyone that really knows Chinese people period, knows this. If there is a Chinese equivalent for you, they would jump on that, if it were possible. What do I mean by possible? Let's break it down shall we.
How Chinese men Disqualify Themselves With Their Own Women (in no order):
1. Too picky
2. Rude as fuck, no fucking manners at all.
3. Er nai , xiaojie, and xiao san (Second wives/mistresses) and cheating
4. Always chasing really young ones
5. Takes them too long to mature or grow up in some cases
6. Financially not acceptable (or gambles too much)
7. Treats in-laws like shit
8. Hits women
9. Low EQ towards the woman/ No romance at all/Never say anything nice
10. Arraigned marriages
11. 28+ year old women are old maid leftover girls. (sheng nu) and there are plenty of younger ones around.
Many Chinese women, especially the divorced ones, are not putting up with that shit anymore. Talk to some of those older ones especially the ones with kids and you will see what I mean. These women are still good women, would you tolerate anything I just listed above? Sometimes they tolerate quite a few things on that list before quitting them. You see in China, men are the kings. Their divorce laws and REGULAR laws strongly favor the men. Like they can hit their wives and get away with it. Women are basically treated 2nd class. Most men can get to decide who the children will live with in a divorce (there are other details, but that is the gist)
So now we know why they are willing to look abroad for laowai to marry instead. Not all Chinese men are like this, but the ones that are good (or good enough), can chose between MILLIONS of hot early 20 somethings... The women want a peaceful life with a man that loves them, and they can be happy without, drama "China Style"....
4. Many Chinese girls are very trusting and easy to talk to depending upon their ages and backgrounds. Others can be extremely paranoid, depending on their life experiences. In some ways they can be toooo trusting, tooo easy......This is good though if you are not a monger. You can have a sweet, pure, innocence young woman, which you can grow with or mold rather... That said, they live in a country that they call "Hard Mode" (Hard 模式), so they aren’t stupid, don't play games with them, especially if you are physically in China. (I will cover more of that later)
5. Many Chinese women also do not shave their pussies and some don't shave armpits, and may not shave either if you ask them to. Many Chinese women naturally do not have leg hair or it is very hard to see it. In Chinese culture they think a shaved pussy is bad luck. Don't be a dick and shave their pussies forcefully like Howard Stern or something, etc. and make them cry like one douchebag claimed he did on Chinasmack. Find one that is "down" with that sort of thing, if that is what you want... I actually would not recommend a Chinese woman if body hair is a major deal breaker for you. Or Japanese either. At least ask about their hair situation up front, I do that because I hate that shaved muff and that would be a major deal breaker for me. So if hair is a deal breaker for you, ask about it up front (within a few weeks meeting them/use your best judgment), then ask if they would be willing to trim or shave that for you. Also if they shave their whole body for you as you ask, they may feel inadequate about your appreciation of their natural body, even though she may never tell you that, it is something to think about!
6. Chinese women may not know world history much. They may not know much about your country, or just the shit they see on CCTV. (Communist Controlled TV if you are funny) Don't expect them to always know what the fuck you are talking about. They will tell you if they know about that already.
7. Materialistic Chinese women that people try to scare you about come from mostly one or two places in China. Just like Manilla women are different from the other ones, the same thing applies to China too. Shanghai women are NOTORIOUS for being the valley bitches of China. They tend to be more intelligent, independent, demanding, gold-digging, etc. than all others. The reality is that they are more likely to be educated, smarter, and a little less traditional. Perhaps a better version of an AW. They are not as bad as they seem. Shanghai has the highest number of "sheng nu" anywhere else in China. Some of you probably want to avoid them to be honest, but some of you would want to chase them exclusively depending upon your strategy. There is also a difference between "native Shanghai women" and "I just work here, but I am from XXXX" Catch my drift? That means not every woman you meet or see in Shanghai is actually a local Shanghainese.
8. Chinese women can be extremely competitive and jealous. If you are talking to other ones, they won’t like it, but they may not tell you. They just might become more competitive as a reaction. Some of them always want what they cannot have. If another Chinese woman likes you, then all of them like you, but if not one likes you, none of them like you, is my motto. Share some photos of you hanging out with other Chinese girl "friends", if you love pre-validation game. (more on that in another section.)
9. Chinese girls love to teach their man Chinese language. Not all, but many. Interest in learning Chinese language and culture, makes them MUCH more comfortable with you. It shatters the ice, if you know what I mean. More on this later.
10. When it comes to racism many Chinese women are generally racist. Just like most Chinese people. I hate to say it but it’s the fucking truth. Well over probably 70% want nothing to do with black people period. Africans can catch the most heat, while black Americans can sometimes get away by using good game. Does this mean give up if you are a black man? Hell no. Work your magic. Hell once I had 3 women message me because they wanted a handsome black man BADLY! 1 was super hot, 1 was slutty-hot with huge tits, and 1 was kind of a butterface with a killer body. 2 of them listened to black singers like RnB alot, and were very genuine. See the section Special Game Advice for Black Men for more information.
11. Many Chinese women can cook. Food is EXTREMELY important in Chinese culture. If you can eat real Chinese food, they will love that, because that means they will be able to do something valuable for you! Also she can take you to visit her parents without worrying about if you can eat the food or not. Learn how to use chopsticks correctly!!!!! Her parents will get a kick outta that if you have a serious relationship. Her other girlfriends too….
Most Chinese women willing to look for a laowai, want the older blonde or brown hair, tall successful white guy, and will wait for that right guy because they know that foreign women suck compared to them and they are just very patient in nature. When I say tall, I mean as tall as they are at least or more, which may not be very tall at all. My wife told me she likes tall men when I first met her, and suddenly I felt discouraged, then I asked her how tall of a man would you like, and that was 2 inches shorter than 5’8” (which I am) lol. Some really don't give a shit about any of that stuff. One thing that most seem not to like is super hairy men, and huge potbellied men. Again, some don't give a shit about those and treat that as minor things. The older they are, the less they give a shit about all that stuff except skin color! The younger ones are the most open-minded ones on race. The 18-28 year old ones. They are the ones that see more of the rest of the world, unlike their older counterparts. They also grew up studying English in school, whereas the older group did not. The younger they are, the more likely they have knowledge of English.
Dating Site Methods, Strategies, and Approaches to Dating Chinese Women
Let me address "Mainland Chinese Women" that are already inside America. 90+% of them are rich. Period. Maybe richer than you or some of your American buddies. They are usually the sons and daughters of Chinese that got rich in China and either took off to the US first chance they got, illegal and legal means, or they sent their rich kid off to a US university. It costs at least 90,000 dollars as a deposit to do that! They do not need your green card but if they wanted that, they only want a tall white guy probably. Watch out though because many of those girls are like Shanghai girls. Also they tend to hang out with only other Chinese people and hang out in the local Chinatown. You need a Chinese male or female friend to bring you in the group, and you better speak some Mandarin too, know their culture, etc.. They are also usually college students too. They are also much closer to an ABC (American Born Chinese) than you might like. I do not recommend chasing any of them unless you are Chinese ethnically or Taiwanese, tall, young, white, and handsome, or white and rich. Also the 9's and 10's already here, are usually only interested in the top of the top of what I listed (Rich Chinese young men in the US or rich ABC). A desperate 3-5 might take anyone, but you can get a 7-10 easy directly from the source. Not to mention those already here, can't cook for shit. Real talk.
Now let's cover Dating Strategies and Game Techniques.
The age ranges you chase, only change a few basic things.
18-22 year old Girls
Tough group to deal with! Flaky big time. Pure numbers game. This age is considered the stage before they have their golden years. So no serious commitments usually. School and college come first. They are young and immature sometimes. Sometimes they are too mature to the point that it is a little scary to be honest, like extremely red pill mentality and opinions! Now legal marriage age in China is 20 for women, not 18 like in America. This is important because their mentality is not, "I'm 18 now, I can do whatever the fuck I want now!" like some US raised young people think. This group tends to make V for victory signs in every photo they take, make stupid duck faces alot, wear corny Disney mickey mouse clothes (although some older ones do too, yuck!), wear glasses with no lenses in them, wear weird ass clothes that look outdated or just plain strange. Like office suit stockings with denim booty shorts, and ruffled white see-through blouses with their flat chested bras visible (or fake ass push up bras), with 6-inch heels/platform shoes that are black red or some loud color. By the way none of the clothes colors match each other. Cotton padded jackets are common for everyone in China, but this age group wears the ugliest ones. Some dye their hair (brown) and some of them have the ugliest hairstyles you have ever seen. They are struggling to look different in a place where everyone looks the same, so we cannot blame them too much.
The ones that "date" online and I put that in quotes for a reason, sometimes less crazy looking than the ones you see walking around on the street. Their hair might be black, long, and more straight than curly. They might have contacts to make their eyes look bigger and cute. They still make V signs and duck faces too. Lots of them have kick ass English skills too. The main problem with this group is that they are just looking around. They are sooooo picky that they do not even know what the fuck they want. Seriously. Even with air-tight game they may play extremely hard to get. Under 20 and it gets harder. Some of them are so silly they put dumb shit like: I want a tall, American (White) or European that makes 300,000+ per year, has a house and car, but not a fast one, only a luxury one, likes pets but does not own one, etc... Im not making this up. Usually these are like 9.5's and 10's around 18-20 years old. Usually their profiles suck too. Full of nonsense or has nothing but "hehe" or "lol" in them. They just want to see what is out there, or how much attention they might get.
My recommendation for this group is simply, talk to them if you have time, but don't hold your breath. Also they may be in college. School always comes first before a "boy". If you are in China, they may fuck around with you, but don't expect anything serious unless you are willing to wait around for them to finish and grow up.
If you teach in China, you have a better shot at building a casual, friend-like relationship with them first, and then use solid game to see what you can get out of it second. Don’t be surprised if they flake out even if you bring them back to your room. You have no idea if she is far more afraid of losing virginity, face, or something else. Your D might be something she wants, but she might have a reason to not go all the way. You can pull it out in conversation, but again, don’t be shocked if she keeps that a secret too.
If they are bonafide 10's.......good luck. You better have 4X more money than me, be tall, European, and handsome, all of the above, or the Chinese equivalent. Or something else great going for you future wise, like medical school for a heart surgeon or neurologist, etc. You must understand these are the "Hot white blonde bombshells" on the "Playboy College Edition" girls and any ugly but rich Chinese guy will grab these from you faster than an umpire can yell STRIKE! Remember the University of Alabama Quarterback AJ Mc Carron that kept having his beauty pageant girlfriend splashed on TV during that championship game, then every stud pro athlete in America started hitting on her HARD on Twitter? It's just like that.... This group are pure buyers! You may not be as valuable to them as you think you are.
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
1.If you are teaching English in China, you have a much better chance to get one of these than everyone else. Purely because of the time you can spend hypnotizing her is greater, and she has more time to teach you Mandarin and culture rules, and hypnotize her parents into accepting you. Just beware of jealous bitches and Chinese men if you get one of these, as well as your other students. They will hate, and hate hard.
2.Pre-Validation Game KILLS with this group. The younger they are the more jealous they are. Use one as bait or a prop to get the others around to like you. Use her to go out or meet her friends or classmates and colleagues. Keep lots of other girls on your QQ friends list. They will see their competition’s QZone pages (like Facebook). If they ask you about each other, don’t try to be shy about it.
A)You: /Tell them yeah, they are just some friends of mine./ We practice English and Mandarin together.
B)Her: /Do they like you?/ Do you like them?/ Are you a player?!/ Where did you meet them?/
C)You: / Yeah they could make nice girlfriends, just need to pick one or Sure! They are pretty, do you think they are pretty too?/ Nah, they all want to me to be their boyfriend./
D)Her: /Oh I see…. (gets jealous)/ Why do you talk to me then?”/ I don’t think they are pretty at all! / I think I am better / *Hamster starts spinning* and no response/ I think your taste sucks!/ Have fun with them!/
At this point it can get a little stiff and awkward, but keep your cool. Don’t flex or get out of character. This round and round of possibilities can go on forever. Hard to help you guys be ready for every slick retort, but these are some of the ones I have seen more than once or caught me off guard back then. What you don’t want to do if you chose this strategy, is to backpedal. DO NOT BACKPEDAL! Stay the course! If you need an exit strategy if you sense an epic fail coming on, is to say something like you think she is far better than any of the others and rose it up. That can backfire on you though and make her feel too powerful.
Good Replies (continued from above): Yeah, I haven’t made a decision yet/ I actually talk to you the most. / Really? Are you prettier than them? Why so? / Oh yeah? Can you show me why you are better? Or Show me what you got! / Really? I been chasing you all this time. What does that make you? / HAHA! I will unless I meet a better one. /
Even if she is pissed off, she won’t run away from you. Not without a fight of course! She may take opportunities to bring them up or just downright try to get between you spending time talking to other girls. Some may even try to fight with you or them and may try to message them to back off. It can happen, so handle it with care if you have a very sensitive one. If you can read her well and she is very sensitive, you do not really need this strategy.
*Warning* Super fucking smart ones are resistant (but not immune) to this and the female equivalents of Naturals are too. Game will need to be air tight. Especially if they are very pretty, then they might even be immune. Like the bonafide 10’s I described above. A girl that looks like Zhang Zi Yi is hardly threatened by any laowai playing around with her, especially if she is 18-22. If she is 5’8 or taller with porcelain skin, way more so. Regular-bold, rich-popular guy, neg openers with impressive Mandarin, light-asshole/Funny-jerk elite-comedy game might be better in a case like that. You could theoretically break a gal like that down with pre-val game, but only with other 9-10s. That’s much harder in reality though.
The smarter ones will get snide and make funny, witty, or clever retorts. Maybe even flat out ignore you as if you did not even bring it up. Some give zero fucks about anything that shit like that will not determine what they do with you at all. Straight up poker face. I will cover Poker Face types later.
3.Lost or confused and I need help game works well, especially if you are on foot out and about. If you’re Mandarin is decent, maybe after you get your directions, you can ask them for their QQ number. Ya know, just in case I get lost again and I can ask you another question. Walk around with a map or a Google Map application on your phone and put some bullshit destination as some GPS waypoint so you can use that as a prop to gain their sympathy and help the poor and helpless laowai. ;_; I am trying to find this famous and delicious bao zi to eat, but I cannot find this restaurant. I know it is close… ;_; If you can say that in Mandarin….tooooo easy….
4.If you know which areas has university students, you can prowl around in those areas if you are strict about day game approaching. I wouldn’t really recommend it if you’re Mandarin sucks ass or if you are kinda old.
5.Use Chinasmack personals, QQ International Personals, WeChat Friend Finder game is good for this group. Younger women that speak English tend to use stuff like this. (Everyone uses WeChat though, especially prostitutes/xiaojie so watch out)
6.General online game with this group can suck depending upon the website you meet her on. A serious website might have the gold digger types that are super picky. The cheaper or the free sites, will have a sausage fest lined up for her if she is 7-10. I guarantee it. She most likely is looking for something extremely specific. *cough*$$$*ahem* I ain’t hating. SMV is SMV and they know what’s up.
7.The ones that do not go to college or just go to a 2 year college can be perfect. Not too smart assed, not too dumb. Just right….. Timing would have to be crucial if you can catch them by being in the right place and at the right time. In the right situation too!! You could possibly convince one to get serious if you want a LTR, if you show up before a Chinese guy can marry them.
Conclusion: Kick the tires, see what's there....if a Ferrari with a good head on her shows up for the right price (love) take it!
Be careful of girls of this age group online, because the scammers like using this age group alot. Lots of horny idiots play right into those big eyes and duck faces. They would not do it if all men were not suckers. Often times they put pictures of idols (Asian celebrities) or clothing models from Taobao (Chinese Ebay), and horny dudes from the West fall for it all the time!
23-28 year old girls
This is the bread and butter group for most men (20's - 40). This group is starting to feel pressure that they do not have a husband yet. Especially once they hit 24-25. Usually all the non-psycho 10's are all handcuffed by 26. Beware of any 27 year 9-10's that never had a serious relationship. Something might be wrong with them, check them out slowly. Also 10's at 26-28 come at you like an American Woman would. They ask 5 questions quickly. If they like you they will talk to you again, if they are not impressed, they move on. I spoke to some Chinese female lawyer and a finance one that was like this for an example. These women earn great money already and are hot, just can't find a Chinese man that they like with equivalent money, looks, etc., that is not a douchebag. Remember those Chinese guys can go find a 20 year old 8-10, that won’t resist their asshole chauvinism. These types might be able to be broken down by a guy living in China with nice credentials. Some of you English teachers with money in the bank and Engineers have a good shot at these too, but beware, they might be controlling "tiger wife types" on the low. The Chinese men have a saying. Chinese girl, like a kitten, Chinese wife, like a tiger....LOL
*Remember ANY 10 woman from ANY place on the planet, that truly KNOWS how hot they really are, is a little dangerous in their own way.
Now, with this age group they may have finished college or university years and are looking for the next big step in life. This is good for YOU! If your Mandarin sucks, try meeting some online first. If you work in China or will be staying a little while, find the hangouts where laowai friendly women may be. If you hang out around a college or school and you have no professional reason to be there, the girls will call you a creepy pervert with yellow fever behind your back. You think everything is cool, but it isn’t. If the guys catch on you that is a bigger problem potentially. You have been warned. If you hang out in bars with other expats, you will find that they only have KTV/bar skanks and those are not quality women in most cases. If you find that a great victory with those 5's and 6's great, but you can do better than that. Also do not listen to other foreigners glossing up “bad bitches” they are pulling the club calling them 8-10s. 9 times out of 10 they are full of shit.
Let me say this as well. The actual "Good Girls", would NEVER go out being dressed like "xiaojie" (hoe) in super tight pussy-skirts hanging out in the clubs at night. Believe it or not, many are like a "church girl" in China outside the tier 1 cities and never deal with that shit. They see that as a waste of time, money, and kinda dangerous depending upon the club. Virginity is still a valuable thing for them if they still have it. They don't club hop like women here do. That is seen as stuff whores and bitches do.
So you think you know what a good girl in China is like? "But she goes to party at the KTV with laowai and she is just friendly, dude, they are not all like that!" WRONG! She may have had 4-6 guys before, you just don't know that. Those women be lying.
There are also 9 and 10's that are xiaojie putting themselves through school at a big university. They slide their business cards and phone numbers under the doors of nice hotels that laowai and businessmen stay in. They charge anywhere from 150usd to 800usd per night!!! But they are near perfect 10s! If you stay in cheap trash hotels or hostels you would never know about this. I'm not telling you guys this to go P4P, but so you do not come into China naive as fuck, thinking you know everything and the girls cannot fool you. That angel face could have been gobbled 10 dicks last month. Check her out well so you will know what’s up. Smash em but do not try to marry or LTR gal women like this.
When it comes to this age group guys a little bit older 4+, and the 30-35 year olds have the strongest advantages.
Now you can find an 8-10 sometimes if you play your cards right and search online or in certain parts of China that are not popular with foreigners and still get lucky. In fact if you are slick, if you go online, there are smart girls that are 8-10's in disguise, but they don't wear makeup, are from the countryside or small town, and they dress in plain clothes and don't photograph their entire bodies for you to see. Read between the photos! I found mine accidentally that way, didn't quite know what I had until later and it hit me like a ton of bricks, I could not believe my luck. I was stunned when I got a hold of better photos.
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
You can actually use the same techniques from the previous age group. There are some extra strategies in this group you can you use.
1.Online game can be very strong in this group. Free sites tend to have more DTF-looking for fun types in there, but that is not a high number to begin with. Paid sites have good girls and traditional marriage minded ones. Adjust your strategies accordingly.
2.Day game can be tougher as their English can be non-existent.
3.This group will look you up and down if you are seen around with a good looking woman. If that stare was hungry as fuck, walk by there again and if you catch them alone at a different time, get that number. Make mental notes based on locations, especially if it is a work place of some kind.
4.You can use a desperate one to your advantage. How to tell if she is desperate? If she brings up serious stuff within 1 week of meeting, or she segways into talking about her life goals and you find a clue in there.
5.Ask them if they can cook you something. Straight up. Don’t be shy about it either. If you stay at a 7 Days Hotel instead of a regular tourist one, they have a little kitchen etc. invite her over to “help you figure out this food stuff…” lol You buy the stuff and let her try. Even if it sucked, it opens stuff up anyway. You can try this with those younger girls but I dunno if that would work well. Someone can try it and let everyone else know how that went.
6.Keep in mind that 90+% of them are thinking marriage at these ages, regardless of what her hamster told you in the club, that’s what she wants or is dreading deep down. Just keep that in mind. Don’t try to constantly catch them in lies or awkwardness. This group is beginning to start caring about saving face a lot more. Calling some select few out on something can be worse than cheating on them. Observe and take a mental note when you notice something.
7.Buy them 9 or 18 red roses. Roses should always be bought in multiples of 9 (Chinese think 9 is a number that means forever). This shit blows them away. Nearly no Chinese men try this shit. Coming from a foreigner that is already thought to be romantic already, you just made a movie and put them in the starring role. Have it delievered to their workplace, and you get a massive multiplier. She gains massive amounts of face and her male coworkers there that wanna fuck/marry her get super pissed off.
8.Poker Face starts to develop more in this group. That can be caused by: Hard life experiences and baggage, super strict parents, pressure from school studies, they think they are smarter than you and want to catch you (shit testing), They have some better options in their back pocket (usually wrong though), they are naturally very passive aggressive, they honestly cannot understand you and want to save face, they are super introverted but really like you, and the most common one of all….They think ALL talk is cheap and bullshit (from ANY man or woman)!
How to Deal with Poker Face:
1.Keep her on her toes. Talk a lot. Try to speak Mandarin more if you are not that good, and she might want to do something else to make you shut up. Make sense?
2.Make short-jab jokes about her. Eg. My wife spilled a milk tea on the high speed train once before. It was a mess. Every now and then I will use a quick recall of “Like you did with that milk tea?” But she might have an orange juice in her hands this time.
3.Poke her nose gently with a finger and replicate her facial expression. You can even pinch her ass. Just don’t fold up if she reacts in a way you didn’t expect. Just smirk.
4.Massages work very well, especially if you have knowledge of massage therapy.
5.Ask her lots of questions. Especially nasty or very private ones. You could even try the ones in number 8.
6.Come up with activities.
7.Spend more time with them in general.
If they do not snap out of their funk or whatever it is that bothers them, put them in the friend zone-fuck buddy or the fenced in pasture area of your farm. You can figure out the rest.
29 – 34 years old
This group is bad ass for their sheer maturity. If they are hot as hell, it's even better! They are soo down to earth and chill it's not even funny. They can talk about all kinds of things. They probably cook the best after the 40+ group. They might have kids....they may not. If you are much younger than these women, you can almost forget getting one for a LTR. Too hard in my experience. The ones with kids may take you seriously though. One very pretty one, that was 31 or 32 and divorced and had a 6 year old kid, was excellent for me I thought and we got along well, good English, but I don't have any kids and she was busy alot too, so we did not talk enough like I wanted to. When she had more time to talk, I met my woman by then, so it was nothing by that time.
This group is also brutally honest. If they think you are fat, short, handsome, cute, silly, etc. they will tell you that. The ones with master’s degrees are FANTASTIC to have a conversation with! So fucking smart and knowledgeable! There are many to be found in this group without kids too. Don't be shocked if some of them tell you they don't want any kids. That might be music to some of you guys' ears LOL!
The ones from Guangzhou in this age group have MEAN CURVES! Sexy a** women! Powerful looking legs are plentiful in this group! A few people messaged me asking me where the curvy women at, well the 28-35 group has em the most! Especially in the Southern half of China. Those legs are the nicest (lean muscled, with thicker thighs)
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
1.Some want a husband and have kids. Some have grown kids. Some lost their kids to the husband in a divorce. Some were divorced and have no kids at all. YEAH! All kinds in this age group.
2.Fair warning. If you are a very young cat, lots of these women will turn you down because they may be too traditional. If they think you are handsome and told you that, keep messing with them and see if they will crack.
3.For the ones with kids, I would not try to play many games with them. It’s your call, but they are a little serious. I really wouldn’t mess with them unless they are super-hot.
4.These are pretty desperate for attention. Chinese men ignore them. They either intimidate most Chinese men because they got money and intelligence. They don’t intimidate us at all and they pick up on that vibe. They are just hoping you do not see that sea of 20 year olds behind them that equal or surpass them.
35 – 40+ years old
I honestly do not have much experience with this group at all. Like one 34/35 year old woman I talked with a lot, and that is it. 40ish women would never give me the time of day, no matter what I tried, unless they were probably a cougar on the prowl. Which is possible, I have heard a few guys say that they were shagging a few of those. But this group is too mature and serious. Almost all of them want an older white man 40-80 to marry and live with. They might have 1 grown kid, but that is it. Some do not have any kids!! Some of you guys just might want a cool as hell, old-school minded companion that can cook well, well here you go! Even at 40 the hot ones will make American women her age look like 70 year old cows. Prepare for some serious jealously if you bring them back to the US. Seriously.
People have reported to me that WeChat’s Friend Finder feature is useful for Cougar Hunting and finding DTF women in the 32-50 range, in Tier 1-3 cities, if that is an area of interest for you.
Basic problems with this group include:
1.Old-Fashioned ideas and views.
2.Strong ignorance based racism.
3.Use of traditional Chinese medicine too much.
4.Very strong traditional rituals that make no sense.
Advantages:
1.Cooking skills.
2.Traditional feminine behavior.
3.If a Tiger Wife, they are very vocal and do not hide it, easier to avoid.
4.Thin bodies and decently good looking.
Poor Girls Vs. Rich Girls
Poor Girls
1.Poor Girls can be defined as coming from a family that earns under 5,000rmb for say at least 3 people in that family. Location matters a lot due to cost of living, etc.
2.Some poor-ish looking Chinese may have huge savings in cash (600,000+ RMB) , but maintain the same lifestyle. You can kinda tell if they have things like large cost electronic equipment and nice washers and dryers in their apartments. If a medical issue comes up they instantly always have the cash. If they have a car, that is a dead giveaway as well.
3.Anyone’s family with a car is not poor. Period. I do not care if the car is cheap as hell and barely runs. No one poor owns a car in China. That makes them at least middle class.
4.Poor girls can still be very educated. Do not be surprised if you meet one with mid level English skills but earns 2,000 to 3,500 RMB per month.
5.Poor girls often times work as Customer Service Representatives for factories, international companies that manufacture goods for export (like Aluminum and transistor sales).
6.Poor girls can be found working at malls and similar places. Not all that seem to drop IOIs want you though. They may just be trying to sell you some shit. Sometimes they want to actually touch and talk to you. Wink wink, nod nod.
7.Poor girls can almost always be found working in KTVs, various bars, and clubs. I would wager that over 90 percent of them come from poor families. No middle upper class woman in China would be caught dead working in places like that unless she is kinda weird, low EQ, low IQ, has family problems, or strong insecurities dealing with men.
8.Poor girls are just somewhat more likely to be virgins rather than richer girls. Their virginity can be of value for their family in the form of a dowry, especially if they are pretty. Their parents will guard them strongly and almost always demand a large hong bao. Laowai are no exception to the rule either.
9.Poor Girls are notoriously flaky. If you are too good looking, too rich for them, or just generally out of their league, they have a strong flake potential. Do not always think you have bad game if you get dumped by a 5-6 poor girl. You could discuss potential marriage and they will still flake.
10.Some poor girls will hustle you for money if they know you have it. Avoid letting them know how much you earn or what you have. If they ask change the subject.
11.Are vulnerable to White God Factor/Syndrome. If you are black, you better show them you have "purchasing power" of some degree, for marriage ONLY, otherwise you might get ignored or not taken seriously. LTR and STR doesn't really matter.
Rich Girls
1.Rich girls travel A LOT. Either inside China or outside. Many can be found on online dating websites as women 27+.
2.A girl with a car that costs around or more than 40,000USD in the US, in China is a rich girl. Period. There is a lot more money hiding around her family than you know.
3.Are in all areas of China. Not just tier 1 and 2 cities. Have you ever seen a brand new Mercedes S Class AMG, or a Porsche Cayenne, driving around in rice farm areas in areas under 100,000 population before? It can be seen quite often in China.
4.They either play the field in their early 20’s, take too long trying to pick a man, or spend too much time traveling to find a husband. They freak out around 27 (Sheng nu = leftover women) and try to get serious. If you are looking for serious LTR opportunities, you can have a field day in this group.
5.Often fly on private planes to places or suddenly drop what they are doing to go traveling. If you notice this behavior they might be filthy rich.
6.Often times rich girls have parents with deep CCP connections or rank. That could be a problem if you tried to marry one and bring back to the US because all Communist Party members are heavily investigated first. Also, cheating on her is pretty damn risky for your sake.
7.Many are what they call (Fu Er Dai) which means “Second Generation Rich”. These women are that are called this by other Chinese are usually spoiled as hell, very bratty, and some throw temper tantrums and cry in public making a huge scene by name dropping their daddy’s name.
8.MILF/Cougars have money. Lots of them do. Divorced ones tend to be either middle class or rich. Especially career women with Masters degrees. Lawyers are not always rich and it kind of depends where in China they are located.
9.Beware of the ones looking for Boy Toys. These women want their own male version of a bottlegirl. They will never give you any pussy and will constantly waste your time talking to you and hanging out. Follow the 3 strike rule with rich girls. After the 3 close attempt, throw them out into the pasture.
10.They usually like to pay for everything. Let them, do it. Because even middle upper class women do this.
11.Some rich and most filthy rich Chinese women are “White God Factor/Syndrome Resistant” in a lot of ways. Some are open minded to dating black and brown men and may chase you if they find you first, especially if you have a “nice guy vibe” and have a “great smile”. Some Rich girls love great smiles on men. Why? Eh. Kind of hard to explain. I have gotten that feedback from four of them and never heard that from poorer women, not even my wife and she is middle upper class. Some of this has to do with wanting to avoid local Chinese men that could beat them, be rude, and try to demand their money or other things. Rich Chinese men usually get 20-23 year old girls that are 7-10s they will almost never marry an older one. Their parents won’t approve usually.
Tools of the Trade:
Ok now it is time to breakdown setups, tools, and techniques:
First Steps
1. Download QQ Instant Messenger International Version : http://www.imqq.com/
2. Next you must get WeChat for your phone http://www.wechat.com/en/ (You can use your QQ number account for WeChat)
3. Either write down on a notepad or memorize your QQ number after you sign up for an account. (This is VERY important, cannot stress this enough. This is for online and if you are living there. Without a QQ account, you are a loser to a Chinese person. It will impress the women a lot that you have one and know how to use it.)
3. Install QQ for your smartphone.
4. If you want to check out the young hot ones on QQ international dating (Many speak English, hint hint!)
http://imqq.worldfriends.tv/login.jhtml
*Be sure to get a webcam. Many good women that are serious want to see you at least once before moving forward.
**Warning be careful who you let send you a friend request on QQ, it is very common to get an invite of some freak that wants to show you his penis. Not making this up. It's gross as fuck.
5. I love like this website: http://www.chinalovematch.net/. Check out the testimonials. It's great especially for serious prospects. http://www.chineselovelinks.com/ is a good site too.
OK! Now let’s breakdown proper profile creation.
OK for photos, you will need 4 at minimum. (at least one showing your teeth if they are nice enough) (SMILE!)
1. Suit with a tie, looking SUAVE! not like you went to the ghetto ass suitmart and bought a Steve Harvey/Stacy Adams SUIT! (Any shot style is okay)
2. Picture of you in a nice button down type shirt and jeans in a chilled relax posture.
3. Picture of you with FRIENDS! Not all of them with other girls either! At a party/club/event (This is VERY important.) You MUST show women that you are not a fucking creep living in your mom's basement with no social life! They see you having fun, they start imagining themselves being at that event having fun with you too!!!! See if you can get a beer in your hand too.
*Note, if you are kinda on the older side (30-70), tone it down. Chinese women are conservative most of them, and older ones much more so. The amount of ass and titties inside spandex dresses women here wear at the club being seen in your profile shots, may shock them, and gives the wrong idea. If you chasing 28 and younger ones with no kids, it's okay put one or 2 of those up.
4. Picture of your whole body. If you are good looking with muscles, this will be your seller shot. They want to see what they have to deal with. Honesty is not an instant dis-qualifier like it would be here in the US.
Man what ya'll know about GAME!?
OK let’s break down more online game strategies:
In your profiles or when talking to Chinese women, having been to China before or being in China already is a big plus. If you are at home and have not gone there yet, turn it around into a positive! When they ask you, and they will, say I am planning to go to China this year or very soon, etc. This can give you an opening to convey to her that, "If you and I get serious, you can take me around China and we can travel together." If you go to China set up some dates to meet with you if you want to date several ones, they can help you get around. This really helps you guys that want to get there quickly.
This is VERY VERY important for any guy that has no Mandarin skills yet, but want to go to China and meet ladies. China is HARD to travel through if you leave major cities. Even my friends that are ABC's or haven't lived a long time in China, use guides to get around when they go back. Just Mandarin speaking skills alone is not always good enough! There is a reason why you have to have a license to be a tour guide in China. People go to college to become a tour guide in China. I will cover this more in the Travel Section.
Another huge strategy is to properly eliminate the weak candidates: (This works for online and in person)
In no specific order: (You need to know the first 4 as quickly as possible to not waste time)
1) Ask them if their parents can accept or allow them to marry a laowai. (Can they accept a black/non-white laowai)
A) If they tell you no you cannot marry me, what would you do? Do you have your own passport? (if no, you might be doomed getting that girl, but contact me directly if you want some help with that)
2) Are you interested in living outside of China?
3) Are your parents actively trying to arraign a marriage for you?
A) What is your goal in life right now? (if she says get married, great! Don't take that as a bad sign)
4) Can I see some additional photos of you? (Ask this if their profile photos are photoshopped or too perfect with makeup)
5) Ask them about where they live and where their actual "hometown" is.
6) Ask them what kind of foods are their favorites and what kinds do they like to cook for themselves. (Say it just like that)
7) what are their hobbies. (Don't be shocked if they do not have any, which is normal too)
8) what do they like to do on the weekends with their friends. Ask if they like to go to the KTV bar (Their reactions are what you are looking for)
9) Can you help me with my Chinese (Mandarin) studying?
10) Have you ever met any laowai other than me before?
11) How long have you studied English?
Only use 1-3 for serious prospects. For mere Short Term Relationship stuff, don’t bother with that.
When browsing profiles, beware of immature women (throwing up V for victory signs all the time, stupid duck faces, as well as huge eyeballs via contacts lenses, and excessive photoshop) Some of you already know this, but it must be said.
Any woman over the age of 30 should not be throwing Vs and duckfaces like a tool. You might want to pass them up for LTR or hit them up for short term and practice. Any of the ones over 40 doing that are....lame and probably dress like your grandmother too. They are just trying to be cool, but those are the really corny ones. Up to you on those. The girls under 25 are the worst, too many of them do this (like more than 50%). The ones that do both, might need to be avoided, but kicking the tires on them does not hurt, but test them for maturity. They just might be naive girls but with a great heart and character, trying to fit in or appeal.
In general some Chinese women, especially rural-to-the-city transplants are "out of touch/style" sometimes. They dress like a blind nerd dressed them, really old fashions, and the worst offense of them all.....Mickey Mouse swag... Many Chinese still love to wear Disney shit. Mickey and Minnie Mouse stuff everywhere, especially on the immature ones. This will bother the style conscious man, but it can be possible to talk them out of wearing that, but they still may be a turn off, maturity wise, for other things. Some of the photos you will see of Chinese women will provide either the biggest laugh or biggest WTF!? moments, have fun.
The older they are the more likely they just do not give a fuck about appearances and clothes, if they wear horrible clothes. No need to chase trolls, even if you look like one too.
Another big problem are photos of women with their tits out, trying very HARD to entice men. AVOID if looking for a good traditional girl! If that means, 60% of the profiles are disqualified, so be it! No big deal. If you have no need for a traditional good girl go for it. Some of those women are head cases, scammers, or very Westernized. So it’s up to you. Now I am not talking about a lady with a low cut top on, I am talking about the ones wearing sexy lingerie, the ones with both hands cupping their tits to show the camera, the ones dressed like xiaojie (mandarin for prostitut.es), and extremely inappropriate dress for their age. Leave all those women alone if you cannot handle it. If your dumb ass gets hooked or hustled, charge that shit to the game, and don't come back here talking trash about all Chinese women suck. Chances are good your story will not pass a decent bullshit check. Also why would you want to proclaim your level of stupidity or gullibility to the whole world?
These same rules apply to KTV hoes, massage parlor hoes, hotel massage girl hoes, bathhouse hoes, barbershop hoes, and hoes on the street! Do not attempt to handcuff HOES! Let em go! They are dime a dozen, and the good girls outnumber them alot, like 4 to 1. Maybe even more than that.
A) Like most Asians, Chinese women are not known for giant tits, like European and Western women are. Too many of them use pushup bras, stuff them with sponges, and you could be sorely disappointed in what you see in person. Many stuff their bras. You have been warned.
B) They could be using the photos of a idol/celebrity that no westerner knows about and might be a fraud running scams. If it looks waaay too good to be true, dig deeper. Ask for a regular photo or keep moving.
You must see at least 1 normal photo to counteract getting hooked from a photoshop job. Do not get excited check them out first.
Remember there are still lots of LEGIT 10's out there that are not running a catfish scam, just be careful in your approach.
*If in a serious relationship*
12) Are your parents going to require a dowry? If so, how much? (might be a deal breaker, might not, there is a process to work through covered later) They may give you guys money instead!
13) Am I required to come visit your family for Chinese New Year (Spring Festival)
A) Will we need to bring Hong Bao? (Red Envelope filled with some cash (RMB chinese currency) and how much do we need to have for all the hong bao envelopes. (work with her and her mother on what to do)
14) Do we have to have a wedding ceremony? (find out the costs, etc.)
15) Figure out if you are going to marry in China first or do a K1 Visa instead and bring her to the US or other country) (More on this later.)
More online game tips:
1. Never discuss politics online or in person while either one of you are in China. QQ is monitored, their email, and blogs are monitored. they deep packet inspect all traffic in and out of China for keywords. Don't bring up banned words either like Chen the blind activist, or any of his family members, Tiananmen Square, Tibet, or use the Chinese characters for that shit. Don't let them get too involved in stuff like that. You may never hear from them again, not because they don't like you anymore either......the "Party" picks up people they do not like. Ya dig? Stay low key.
2. Download and use WeChat for your smartphone, you can use your QQ login or facebook login for it. The girls you date may push you into using it, but you may look more cool by having it first before they ask.
3. Make a Qzone page. Qzone is like a kind of Facebook. It uses your QQ login. It's all in Chinese and even running Google Chrome Brower with Chinese translation does not work. If you can put stuff on your Qzone page without help, the women will be HIGHLY impressed.... (at a minimum put a profile picture on it)
You can also browse their Qzone pages and like their pictures or stuff, and that will make them feel very special too!
*Remember ACTIONS = Love to Chinese women* You do not have to buy them lots of junk or say "I love you alot"
Etiquette Tips
Chinese women do not take a long time to decide on a guy. Only the Westernized/Picky/Young Idiotic ones do. What do I mean? Time to introduce you to an awesome article written by a guy that teaches English in China.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/datin...china.htm
*WARNING* Do not monger sweet/pure girls in China, by promising marriage and other things. Doing so we initiate what the locals call a "Human flesh search" for the evil laowai. In smaller cities that can be suicide. If they find you before the police they will confront you, beat you up, and call the police. You will be jailed or deported, usually both. You will get a lifetime ban from China too. In the big cities you might get away with it, but in the small city and rural areas, you will get fucked up. The police won't believe your story and they don't speak English either. The US embassy will just tell you to go home. PLEASE consider other foreigners that are living in China, you will make their lives much worse there by being an asshole.
Special Game Advice for Black Men
For Black men, you will have to use better techniques than some of your peers due to racial stigmas from the West. In China, white skin is always better. Whether white skin on a Chinese person or on a foreigner. Many Chinese women that like foreigners highly crave a mixed blood baby with a white skinned man. That’s great news for white guys, but bad news for us. Kind of. Nah! We have to fine tune our game to separate ourselves from the rest. Just because you are black does not mean that you cannot get a hot Chinese woman at all. Just have to work at it a little harder. That honestly should not be a surprise to any black person reading this. We have to work extra harder in many aspects in life to overcome adversity, so this is just another one of them. By this age, you should already be used to this by now. Some of you non-black but darker skinned/dark tanned guys need to read this as well.
Things that make dating as a black man tougher in China are the following:
1.Stigma that black skin automatically means you came from Africa.
2.Stigma that all Africans have HIV/AIDS. (Some p4p women will deny you outright for this reason and your penis size.)
3.Stigma that white people in America and Europe hate us, it must be for a good reason.
4.Perception from the west that we are bad people who do rapes and crimes.
5.You are one of the poor African migrant workers that are in Guangzhou.
6.Darker skin in general is looked down upon as not ideal regardless of ethnical background and home country.
7.Dark/tanned skin is associated with working in the fields or outside in dirty professions.
8.They think our penises are too big and will not fit into a Chinese pussy. (an Old Wives tale warning they get when younger)
Strategies to overcome these stigmas:
1.DO NOT DRESS LIKE THE AFRICANS in Guangzhou?
2.Use online game to quickly vet out women with skin color issues.
3.Avoid direct day game approaching. Unless using pipeline and pre-validation game while with a Chinese girl.
4.Have a picture of your face on your QQ/Qzone/WeChat profile to prevent sticker shock or flaking.
5.Wear hats, shirts, backpacks, and other gear that make it obvious you are Canadian or American, etc. Your University gear is good too. All American Universities are impressive to almost all Chinese.
Introduction:
This Guide is designed to help Westerners, date women in mainland China. (中国) (Zhong guo) (Means Central Country. The Chinese thought China was the center of the universe). I am an American, so much of what I write will come from that viewpoint. This guide will be very politically incorrect. This guide is NOT very useful for rampant WHOREMONGERING or P4P (Paying for pussy). You have been warned. In my opinion P4P in China is that it is a waste of money, stupid, and completely unnecessary.
Instead of people having to go search for my posts about China all over the various forums, you can get that information here in one place. This guide will be long, but if you are interested, it will be worth reading it. I will break this down into various chapters or sections.
My Story
Why Date Chinese Women?
Chinese History, Culture, Language and why it is Important? Do your Homework First!
Understanding Chinese Women
Dating Site Methods, Strategies, and Approaches to Dating Chinese Women
Special Game Advice for Black Men
NightClub and Night Game
Bad Girls vs Naughty vs Good Girls, The Differences Between Them, and Where They Can Be Found
Game Advice for Poor Vs Rich Girls
Travel in/Traveling to China
Manners (Do's and Dont's)
Avoiding Challenges/Potential Dangers/You Gotta Understand How China Works
How to Bring A Wife/Potential Wife back to the US
If you need help understanding the Chinese phrases and words used in this guide, go here for a great glossary:
http://www.chinasmack.com/glossary
My Story:
I am a Black American male. I was married to a Black American woman for 2 years and lived with her for about 3 years before that. That marriage and relationship was terrible for reasons not worth writing about because everyone here knows why and can use their imagination. I tried dating Chinese women here in the US even, only to fail for the most part. I have dated many Chinese women in China and I currently have a Chinese wife. So I know many sides of the equation. I have also done business on and off with China for many years with US based and other multinational companies.
I have a minor in Chinese language from a university.
My basic disclaimer is that I cannot guarantee success from my guide, but you can find success if you do not abandon self-improvement and game. Don't look at my personal success as just being lucky. That is just not true at all. Many others have done the same thing. Remember there are 1.3 billion Chinese people. There are roughly 650 million Chinese women. America has roughly 350 million people of all ages! Always remember that.
Why Date Chinese Women
I can say sappy shit like, "They are the best Women in the whole world!", but I will spare you that tired cliché. I will provide a short list of their best qualities many of them have:
Chinese Women:
1. Are EXTREMELY Loyal!
2. Are Very Practical.
3. Are very dedicated and express love with actions, not words. Talk is CHEAP to them.
4. Most are very traditional!
5. Are very beautiful, and age very well too!
I could go on and list things like their hair is awesome, they look amazing in qipao dresses, eyes, etc.. but those things are just cherries on top for the most part, and not the main focus of this guide.
Q: What is an example of the loyalty Kai?
A: Ever saw that evil old man Rubert Murdoch about to be hit in the face with a cream pie by some UK journalist? His Chinese wife Wendy, quickly dashed pass Rupert's fat a** bodyguard, and smacked the SHIT out of that guy preventing him from landing that pie on anyone. The "Chinese Tiger Wife" can serve MANY functions.... NUFF SAID!
Q: What is an example of the practicality Kai?
A: They tend to be very frugal and do not make unnecessary expenditures. They may even ride you for "wasting money", like for staying in 5 and 4 star hotels, when there are cheaper ones around. Far from the stupid and inaccurate stereotype of "Gold-digger Asian women" you see thrown around. In fact, while traveling around in China with your girlfriend, you may have to insist upon nicer stuff to suit your own levels of comfort!! Do not be surprised if you have to do that! There is a reason why Chinese people have many many times more money in savings than their American counterparts do!
Q: What is an example of this dedication and love expression?
A: I will give you a personal one. My first time meeting my eventual wife, we were getting ready to go eat food somewhere, she checked me out first to see if my clothes were too wrinkled, lint, etc. Then she picked a nasty booger out of my nose, finished checking my face, then gave me the OK. Need I say more? There was no hesitation in her movements, she was smiling, and thought nothing of it. I said nothing to her about it either. I double dog dare anyone to ask an American Woman to do this for you!
Q: Kai what is an example of Chinese girls being very traditional?
A: There are too many examples to choose from, but they are raised to follow their husbands. There is a Chinese parable about wherever the male monkey goes, the female must follow behind. I may have botched the translation a little bit, but you get the idea. They already come with these "built in" qualities. DO NOT be shocked while chatting with Chinese ladies, in person or online, if they ask you if it is time for you to go to bed or have you eaten lunch yet, or many other things. It's like they are wired to tend to a man's needs! Don't be a sandy vag mangina, whining about "she is trying to control me" bullshit either. Do you want a real woman or a new-world-order fuck buddy? Can't always have both.
Q: What is an example of this beauty Kai?
A: Look at the photos in this guide or here. Also this should be a given but any 6 or 7 in China is likely a 7 or 8 in the US. Just in case someone reading this doesn't know that.
Look at these Chinese girls in qipao http://www.lovelovechina.com/fashion/my-qipao-mission/
Chinese History, Culture, Language and why it is Important? Do your Homework First!
Chinese history spans at least 5000 years! Compare that to America's less than 300 or so, and it helps to paint a picture. Nah it can be tough to comprehend that. It really can be. Chinese mentality has changed alot, but in many ways, it has changed very little. Much of their value system comes from Confucian Ideals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism Wikipedia keeps it very short, sweet, and to the point. Those are the basic 7 themes the women will be looking for consciously, or sub-consciously!
At this point it is time to introduce you to Crystal Tao's website called http://www.lovelovechina.com/archives/
Go here and read through those archives. Crystal is a Chinese lady from Chongqing, she married a laowai (foreigner/you), and her website contains a wealth of knowledge on how to date Chinese Women and how to understand them. After she got married she quit the site, but left the articles for other to learn and use.
Expand out the various months, and check out the articles of interest. The comments sections sometimes has interesting nuggets in there too. If you read that entire website, you probably would not need this guide too much. Seriously. The value of this guide is to give you quicker 10,000 foot views, mixed with some granular details, from an American MAN's perspective!
That said lets go over some various highlights in the next section:
Understanding Chinese Women
Chinese women are very simple to learn and even though it may seem complex, they are not. That is because Chinese history and culture is more complex. The women really are not that complex themselves. Here are a few key reasons why:
1. They are blunt. Very direct and straight to the point most of the time. If there was a type of woman a real logic driven man can get along nicely with it would be the blunt nature of a prudent straight forward type. Chinese women and UK women are definitely these types. Another way to look at it is to look at Chinese language itself. (Wo yao chi fan) That literally means in English, I want to eat rice/food. Chinese language is not as overflowing with unnecessary words like English is. It is very simple and to the point. The downside is that the details are not as specific.
Don't expect SNL style humor to come out of the mouth of a Chinese woman either. They can be snide or sarcastic but that is only after you have made several snide remarks first! You may find yourself picking at them for a little while with humor or jokes, and they never bite. Then hours or days later, they bring one of those jokes up again and it busts you over the head nicely with it! You have been warned. Seriously they are very witty they just don't like to use it the same way Western Women do. If they tell you that you are getting too fat, they are not talking shit to you. They just want you to do better. Don't take it personal. If a Chinese woman says something that sounds "fucked-up" to you, see where they were going with that first, because you really do not know really know what they mean by that or if they meant harm to you. Ask for clarity or re-read what they say multiple times. It doesn't mean what you probably think it means.
2. Typical Chinese women have simple aspirations. They are looking for a handful of things (in no order):
A) A man that is nice to them and treats them well. (get along well)
B) A man that treats his family and her's well with respect, etc.
C) A man that is financially and socially responsible. Has a plan, etc (you do not have to be rich!)
D) A random fetish/desire of some kind. (White skin/blue eyes/blond hair/mixed-baby/ six pack abs/tall/sexy eyebrows/big arm muscles/not very hairy body/etc....)
3. Chinese women are not picky about looks. They are picky about what they want though! Take my lady for example, she cannot stand skinny men. She never cared for what race of the man she was looking for, but any skinny guy Chinese or otherwise, would have bothered her, or got no attention from her. Then when she meets me, a black guy with muscles, she goes
-Time for some more realism. Most Chinese women, if they had a choice, always want what they want, but in a Chinese man FIRST! Anyone that really knows Chinese people period, knows this. If there is a Chinese equivalent for you, they would jump on that, if it were possible. What do I mean by possible? Let's break it down shall we.
How Chinese men Disqualify Themselves With Their Own Women (in no order):
1. Too picky
2. Rude as fuck, no fucking manners at all.
3. Er nai , xiaojie, and xiao san (Second wives/mistresses) and cheating
4. Always chasing really young ones
5. Takes them too long to mature or grow up in some cases
6. Financially not acceptable (or gambles too much)
7. Treats in-laws like shit
8. Hits women
9. Low EQ towards the woman/ No romance at all/Never say anything nice
10. Arraigned marriages
11. 28+ year old women are old maid leftover girls. (sheng nu) and there are plenty of younger ones around.
Many Chinese women, especially the divorced ones, are not putting up with that shit anymore. Talk to some of those older ones especially the ones with kids and you will see what I mean. These women are still good women, would you tolerate anything I just listed above? Sometimes they tolerate quite a few things on that list before quitting them. You see in China, men are the kings. Their divorce laws and REGULAR laws strongly favor the men. Like they can hit their wives and get away with it. Women are basically treated 2nd class. Most men can get to decide who the children will live with in a divorce (there are other details, but that is the gist)
So now we know why they are willing to look abroad for laowai to marry instead. Not all Chinese men are like this, but the ones that are good (or good enough), can chose between MILLIONS of hot early 20 somethings... The women want a peaceful life with a man that loves them, and they can be happy without, drama "China Style"....
4. Many Chinese girls are very trusting and easy to talk to depending upon their ages and backgrounds. Others can be extremely paranoid, depending on their life experiences. In some ways they can be toooo trusting, tooo easy......This is good though if you are not a monger. You can have a sweet, pure, innocence young woman, which you can grow with or mold rather... That said, they live in a country that they call "Hard Mode" (Hard 模式), so they aren’t stupid, don't play games with them, especially if you are physically in China. (I will cover more of that later)
5. Many Chinese women also do not shave their pussies and some don't shave armpits, and may not shave either if you ask them to. Many Chinese women naturally do not have leg hair or it is very hard to see it. In Chinese culture they think a shaved pussy is bad luck. Don't be a dick and shave their pussies forcefully like Howard Stern or something, etc. and make them cry like one douchebag claimed he did on Chinasmack. Find one that is "down" with that sort of thing, if that is what you want... I actually would not recommend a Chinese woman if body hair is a major deal breaker for you. Or Japanese either. At least ask about their hair situation up front, I do that because I hate that shaved muff and that would be a major deal breaker for me. So if hair is a deal breaker for you, ask about it up front (within a few weeks meeting them/use your best judgment), then ask if they would be willing to trim or shave that for you. Also if they shave their whole body for you as you ask, they may feel inadequate about your appreciation of their natural body, even though she may never tell you that, it is something to think about!
6. Chinese women may not know world history much. They may not know much about your country, or just the shit they see on CCTV. (Communist Controlled TV if you are funny) Don't expect them to always know what the fuck you are talking about. They will tell you if they know about that already.
7. Materialistic Chinese women that people try to scare you about come from mostly one or two places in China. Just like Manilla women are different from the other ones, the same thing applies to China too. Shanghai women are NOTORIOUS for being the valley bitches of China. They tend to be more intelligent, independent, demanding, gold-digging, etc. than all others. The reality is that they are more likely to be educated, smarter, and a little less traditional. Perhaps a better version of an AW. They are not as bad as they seem. Shanghai has the highest number of "sheng nu" anywhere else in China. Some of you probably want to avoid them to be honest, but some of you would want to chase them exclusively depending upon your strategy. There is also a difference between "native Shanghai women" and "I just work here, but I am from XXXX" Catch my drift? That means not every woman you meet or see in Shanghai is actually a local Shanghainese.
8. Chinese women can be extremely competitive and jealous. If you are talking to other ones, they won’t like it, but they may not tell you. They just might become more competitive as a reaction. Some of them always want what they cannot have. If another Chinese woman likes you, then all of them like you, but if not one likes you, none of them like you, is my motto. Share some photos of you hanging out with other Chinese girl "friends", if you love pre-validation game. (more on that in another section.)
9. Chinese girls love to teach their man Chinese language. Not all, but many. Interest in learning Chinese language and culture, makes them MUCH more comfortable with you. It shatters the ice, if you know what I mean. More on this later.
10. When it comes to racism many Chinese women are generally racist. Just like most Chinese people. I hate to say it but it’s the fucking truth. Well over probably 70% want nothing to do with black people period. Africans can catch the most heat, while black Americans can sometimes get away by using good game. Does this mean give up if you are a black man? Hell no. Work your magic. Hell once I had 3 women message me because they wanted a handsome black man BADLY! 1 was super hot, 1 was slutty-hot with huge tits, and 1 was kind of a butterface with a killer body. 2 of them listened to black singers like RnB alot, and were very genuine. See the section Special Game Advice for Black Men for more information.
11. Many Chinese women can cook. Food is EXTREMELY important in Chinese culture. If you can eat real Chinese food, they will love that, because that means they will be able to do something valuable for you! Also she can take you to visit her parents without worrying about if you can eat the food or not. Learn how to use chopsticks correctly!!!!! Her parents will get a kick outta that if you have a serious relationship. Her other girlfriends too….
Most Chinese women willing to look for a laowai, want the older blonde or brown hair, tall successful white guy, and will wait for that right guy because they know that foreign women suck compared to them and they are just very patient in nature. When I say tall, I mean as tall as they are at least or more, which may not be very tall at all. My wife told me she likes tall men when I first met her, and suddenly I felt discouraged, then I asked her how tall of a man would you like, and that was 2 inches shorter than 5’8” (which I am) lol. Some really don't give a shit about any of that stuff. One thing that most seem not to like is super hairy men, and huge potbellied men. Again, some don't give a shit about those and treat that as minor things. The older they are, the less they give a shit about all that stuff except skin color! The younger ones are the most open-minded ones on race. The 18-28 year old ones. They are the ones that see more of the rest of the world, unlike their older counterparts. They also grew up studying English in school, whereas the older group did not. The younger they are, the more likely they have knowledge of English.
Dating Site Methods, Strategies, and Approaches to Dating Chinese Women
Let me address "Mainland Chinese Women" that are already inside America. 90+% of them are rich. Period. Maybe richer than you or some of your American buddies. They are usually the sons and daughters of Chinese that got rich in China and either took off to the US first chance they got, illegal and legal means, or they sent their rich kid off to a US university. It costs at least 90,000 dollars as a deposit to do that! They do not need your green card but if they wanted that, they only want a tall white guy probably. Watch out though because many of those girls are like Shanghai girls. Also they tend to hang out with only other Chinese people and hang out in the local Chinatown. You need a Chinese male or female friend to bring you in the group, and you better speak some Mandarin too, know their culture, etc.. They are also usually college students too. They are also much closer to an ABC (American Born Chinese) than you might like. I do not recommend chasing any of them unless you are Chinese ethnically or Taiwanese, tall, young, white, and handsome, or white and rich. Also the 9's and 10's already here, are usually only interested in the top of the top of what I listed (Rich Chinese young men in the US or rich ABC). A desperate 3-5 might take anyone, but you can get a 7-10 easy directly from the source. Not to mention those already here, can't cook for shit. Real talk.
Now let's cover Dating Strategies and Game Techniques.
The age ranges you chase, only change a few basic things.
18-22 year old Girls
Tough group to deal with! Flaky big time. Pure numbers game. This age is considered the stage before they have their golden years. So no serious commitments usually. School and college come first. They are young and immature sometimes. Sometimes they are too mature to the point that it is a little scary to be honest, like extremely red pill mentality and opinions! Now legal marriage age in China is 20 for women, not 18 like in America. This is important because their mentality is not, "I'm 18 now, I can do whatever the fuck I want now!" like some US raised young people think. This group tends to make V for victory signs in every photo they take, make stupid duck faces alot, wear corny Disney mickey mouse clothes (although some older ones do too, yuck!), wear glasses with no lenses in them, wear weird ass clothes that look outdated or just plain strange. Like office suit stockings with denim booty shorts, and ruffled white see-through blouses with their flat chested bras visible (or fake ass push up bras), with 6-inch heels/platform shoes that are black red or some loud color. By the way none of the clothes colors match each other. Cotton padded jackets are common for everyone in China, but this age group wears the ugliest ones. Some dye their hair (brown) and some of them have the ugliest hairstyles you have ever seen. They are struggling to look different in a place where everyone looks the same, so we cannot blame them too much.
The ones that "date" online and I put that in quotes for a reason, sometimes less crazy looking than the ones you see walking around on the street. Their hair might be black, long, and more straight than curly. They might have contacts to make their eyes look bigger and cute. They still make V signs and duck faces too. Lots of them have kick ass English skills too. The main problem with this group is that they are just looking around. They are sooooo picky that they do not even know what the fuck they want. Seriously. Even with air-tight game they may play extremely hard to get. Under 20 and it gets harder. Some of them are so silly they put dumb shit like: I want a tall, American (White) or European that makes 300,000+ per year, has a house and car, but not a fast one, only a luxury one, likes pets but does not own one, etc... Im not making this up. Usually these are like 9.5's and 10's around 18-20 years old. Usually their profiles suck too. Full of nonsense or has nothing but "hehe" or "lol" in them. They just want to see what is out there, or how much attention they might get.
My recommendation for this group is simply, talk to them if you have time, but don't hold your breath. Also they may be in college. School always comes first before a "boy". If you are in China, they may fuck around with you, but don't expect anything serious unless you are willing to wait around for them to finish and grow up.
If you teach in China, you have a better shot at building a casual, friend-like relationship with them first, and then use solid game to see what you can get out of it second. Don’t be surprised if they flake out even if you bring them back to your room. You have no idea if she is far more afraid of losing virginity, face, or something else. Your D might be something she wants, but she might have a reason to not go all the way. You can pull it out in conversation, but again, don’t be shocked if she keeps that a secret too.
If they are bonafide 10's.......good luck. You better have 4X more money than me, be tall, European, and handsome, all of the above, or the Chinese equivalent. Or something else great going for you future wise, like medical school for a heart surgeon or neurologist, etc. You must understand these are the "Hot white blonde bombshells" on the "Playboy College Edition" girls and any ugly but rich Chinese guy will grab these from you faster than an umpire can yell STRIKE! Remember the University of Alabama Quarterback AJ Mc Carron that kept having his beauty pageant girlfriend splashed on TV during that championship game, then every stud pro athlete in America started hitting on her HARD on Twitter? It's just like that.... This group are pure buyers! You may not be as valuable to them as you think you are.
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
1.If you are teaching English in China, you have a much better chance to get one of these than everyone else. Purely because of the time you can spend hypnotizing her is greater, and she has more time to teach you Mandarin and culture rules, and hypnotize her parents into accepting you. Just beware of jealous bitches and Chinese men if you get one of these, as well as your other students. They will hate, and hate hard.
2.Pre-Validation Game KILLS with this group. The younger they are the more jealous they are. Use one as bait or a prop to get the others around to like you. Use her to go out or meet her friends or classmates and colleagues. Keep lots of other girls on your QQ friends list. They will see their competition’s QZone pages (like Facebook). If they ask you about each other, don’t try to be shy about it.
A)You: /Tell them yeah, they are just some friends of mine./ We practice English and Mandarin together.
B)Her: /Do they like you?/ Do you like them?/ Are you a player?!/ Where did you meet them?/
C)You: / Yeah they could make nice girlfriends, just need to pick one or Sure! They are pretty, do you think they are pretty too?/ Nah, they all want to me to be their boyfriend./
D)Her: /Oh I see…. (gets jealous)/ Why do you talk to me then?”/ I don’t think they are pretty at all! / I think I am better / *Hamster starts spinning* and no response/ I think your taste sucks!/ Have fun with them!/
At this point it can get a little stiff and awkward, but keep your cool. Don’t flex or get out of character. This round and round of possibilities can go on forever. Hard to help you guys be ready for every slick retort, but these are some of the ones I have seen more than once or caught me off guard back then. What you don’t want to do if you chose this strategy, is to backpedal. DO NOT BACKPEDAL! Stay the course! If you need an exit strategy if you sense an epic fail coming on, is to say something like you think she is far better than any of the others and rose it up. That can backfire on you though and make her feel too powerful.
Good Replies (continued from above): Yeah, I haven’t made a decision yet/ I actually talk to you the most. / Really? Are you prettier than them? Why so? / Oh yeah? Can you show me why you are better? Or Show me what you got! / Really? I been chasing you all this time. What does that make you? / HAHA! I will unless I meet a better one. /
Even if she is pissed off, she won’t run away from you. Not without a fight of course! She may take opportunities to bring them up or just downright try to get between you spending time talking to other girls. Some may even try to fight with you or them and may try to message them to back off. It can happen, so handle it with care if you have a very sensitive one. If you can read her well and she is very sensitive, you do not really need this strategy.
*Warning* Super fucking smart ones are resistant (but not immune) to this and the female equivalents of Naturals are too. Game will need to be air tight. Especially if they are very pretty, then they might even be immune. Like the bonafide 10’s I described above. A girl that looks like Zhang Zi Yi is hardly threatened by any laowai playing around with her, especially if she is 18-22. If she is 5’8 or taller with porcelain skin, way more so. Regular-bold, rich-popular guy, neg openers with impressive Mandarin, light-asshole/Funny-jerk elite-comedy game might be better in a case like that. You could theoretically break a gal like that down with pre-val game, but only with other 9-10s. That’s much harder in reality though.
The smarter ones will get snide and make funny, witty, or clever retorts. Maybe even flat out ignore you as if you did not even bring it up. Some give zero fucks about anything that shit like that will not determine what they do with you at all. Straight up poker face. I will cover Poker Face types later.
3.Lost or confused and I need help game works well, especially if you are on foot out and about. If you’re Mandarin is decent, maybe after you get your directions, you can ask them for their QQ number. Ya know, just in case I get lost again and I can ask you another question. Walk around with a map or a Google Map application on your phone and put some bullshit destination as some GPS waypoint so you can use that as a prop to gain their sympathy and help the poor and helpless laowai. ;_; I am trying to find this famous and delicious bao zi to eat, but I cannot find this restaurant. I know it is close… ;_; If you can say that in Mandarin….tooooo easy….
4.If you know which areas has university students, you can prowl around in those areas if you are strict about day game approaching. I wouldn’t really recommend it if you’re Mandarin sucks ass or if you are kinda old.
5.Use Chinasmack personals, QQ International Personals, WeChat Friend Finder game is good for this group. Younger women that speak English tend to use stuff like this. (Everyone uses WeChat though, especially prostitutes/xiaojie so watch out)
6.General online game with this group can suck depending upon the website you meet her on. A serious website might have the gold digger types that are super picky. The cheaper or the free sites, will have a sausage fest lined up for her if she is 7-10. I guarantee it. She most likely is looking for something extremely specific. *cough*$$$*ahem* I ain’t hating. SMV is SMV and they know what’s up.
7.The ones that do not go to college or just go to a 2 year college can be perfect. Not too smart assed, not too dumb. Just right….. Timing would have to be crucial if you can catch them by being in the right place and at the right time. In the right situation too!! You could possibly convince one to get serious if you want a LTR, if you show up before a Chinese guy can marry them.
Conclusion: Kick the tires, see what's there....if a Ferrari with a good head on her shows up for the right price (love) take it!
Be careful of girls of this age group online, because the scammers like using this age group alot. Lots of horny idiots play right into those big eyes and duck faces. They would not do it if all men were not suckers. Often times they put pictures of idols (Asian celebrities) or clothing models from Taobao (Chinese Ebay), and horny dudes from the West fall for it all the time!
23-28 year old girls
This is the bread and butter group for most men (20's - 40). This group is starting to feel pressure that they do not have a husband yet. Especially once they hit 24-25. Usually all the non-psycho 10's are all handcuffed by 26. Beware of any 27 year 9-10's that never had a serious relationship. Something might be wrong with them, check them out slowly. Also 10's at 26-28 come at you like an American Woman would. They ask 5 questions quickly. If they like you they will talk to you again, if they are not impressed, they move on. I spoke to some Chinese female lawyer and a finance one that was like this for an example. These women earn great money already and are hot, just can't find a Chinese man that they like with equivalent money, looks, etc., that is not a douchebag. Remember those Chinese guys can go find a 20 year old 8-10, that won’t resist their asshole chauvinism. These types might be able to be broken down by a guy living in China with nice credentials. Some of you English teachers with money in the bank and Engineers have a good shot at these too, but beware, they might be controlling "tiger wife types" on the low. The Chinese men have a saying. Chinese girl, like a kitten, Chinese wife, like a tiger....LOL
*Remember ANY 10 woman from ANY place on the planet, that truly KNOWS how hot they really are, is a little dangerous in their own way.
Now, with this age group they may have finished college or university years and are looking for the next big step in life. This is good for YOU! If your Mandarin sucks, try meeting some online first. If you work in China or will be staying a little while, find the hangouts where laowai friendly women may be. If you hang out around a college or school and you have no professional reason to be there, the girls will call you a creepy pervert with yellow fever behind your back. You think everything is cool, but it isn’t. If the guys catch on you that is a bigger problem potentially. You have been warned. If you hang out in bars with other expats, you will find that they only have KTV/bar skanks and those are not quality women in most cases. If you find that a great victory with those 5's and 6's great, but you can do better than that. Also do not listen to other foreigners glossing up “bad bitches” they are pulling the club calling them 8-10s. 9 times out of 10 they are full of shit.
Let me say this as well. The actual "Good Girls", would NEVER go out being dressed like "xiaojie" (hoe) in super tight pussy-skirts hanging out in the clubs at night. Believe it or not, many are like a "church girl" in China outside the tier 1 cities and never deal with that shit. They see that as a waste of time, money, and kinda dangerous depending upon the club. Virginity is still a valuable thing for them if they still have it. They don't club hop like women here do. That is seen as stuff whores and bitches do.
So you think you know what a good girl in China is like? "But she goes to party at the KTV with laowai and she is just friendly, dude, they are not all like that!" WRONG! She may have had 4-6 guys before, you just don't know that. Those women be lying.
There are also 9 and 10's that are xiaojie putting themselves through school at a big university. They slide their business cards and phone numbers under the doors of nice hotels that laowai and businessmen stay in. They charge anywhere from 150usd to 800usd per night!!! But they are near perfect 10s! If you stay in cheap trash hotels or hostels you would never know about this. I'm not telling you guys this to go P4P, but so you do not come into China naive as fuck, thinking you know everything and the girls cannot fool you. That angel face could have been gobbled 10 dicks last month. Check her out well so you will know what’s up. Smash em but do not try to marry or LTR gal women like this.
When it comes to this age group guys a little bit older 4+, and the 30-35 year olds have the strongest advantages.
Now you can find an 8-10 sometimes if you play your cards right and search online or in certain parts of China that are not popular with foreigners and still get lucky. In fact if you are slick, if you go online, there are smart girls that are 8-10's in disguise, but they don't wear makeup, are from the countryside or small town, and they dress in plain clothes and don't photograph their entire bodies for you to see. Read between the photos! I found mine accidentally that way, didn't quite know what I had until later and it hit me like a ton of bricks, I could not believe my luck. I was stunned when I got a hold of better photos.
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
You can actually use the same techniques from the previous age group. There are some extra strategies in this group you can you use.
1.Online game can be very strong in this group. Free sites tend to have more DTF-looking for fun types in there, but that is not a high number to begin with. Paid sites have good girls and traditional marriage minded ones. Adjust your strategies accordingly.
2.Day game can be tougher as their English can be non-existent.
3.This group will look you up and down if you are seen around with a good looking woman. If that stare was hungry as fuck, walk by there again and if you catch them alone at a different time, get that number. Make mental notes based on locations, especially if it is a work place of some kind.
4.You can use a desperate one to your advantage. How to tell if she is desperate? If she brings up serious stuff within 1 week of meeting, or she segways into talking about her life goals and you find a clue in there.
5.Ask them if they can cook you something. Straight up. Don’t be shy about it either. If you stay at a 7 Days Hotel instead of a regular tourist one, they have a little kitchen etc. invite her over to “help you figure out this food stuff…” lol You buy the stuff and let her try. Even if it sucked, it opens stuff up anyway. You can try this with those younger girls but I dunno if that would work well. Someone can try it and let everyone else know how that went.
6.Keep in mind that 90+% of them are thinking marriage at these ages, regardless of what her hamster told you in the club, that’s what she wants or is dreading deep down. Just keep that in mind. Don’t try to constantly catch them in lies or awkwardness. This group is beginning to start caring about saving face a lot more. Calling some select few out on something can be worse than cheating on them. Observe and take a mental note when you notice something.
7.Buy them 9 or 18 red roses. Roses should always be bought in multiples of 9 (Chinese think 9 is a number that means forever). This shit blows them away. Nearly no Chinese men try this shit. Coming from a foreigner that is already thought to be romantic already, you just made a movie and put them in the starring role. Have it delievered to their workplace, and you get a massive multiplier. She gains massive amounts of face and her male coworkers there that wanna fuck/marry her get super pissed off.
8.Poker Face starts to develop more in this group. That can be caused by: Hard life experiences and baggage, super strict parents, pressure from school studies, they think they are smarter than you and want to catch you (shit testing), They have some better options in their back pocket (usually wrong though), they are naturally very passive aggressive, they honestly cannot understand you and want to save face, they are super introverted but really like you, and the most common one of all….They think ALL talk is cheap and bullshit (from ANY man or woman)!
How to Deal with Poker Face:
1.Keep her on her toes. Talk a lot. Try to speak Mandarin more if you are not that good, and she might want to do something else to make you shut up. Make sense?
2.Make short-jab jokes about her. Eg. My wife spilled a milk tea on the high speed train once before. It was a mess. Every now and then I will use a quick recall of “Like you did with that milk tea?” But she might have an orange juice in her hands this time.
3.Poke her nose gently with a finger and replicate her facial expression. You can even pinch her ass. Just don’t fold up if she reacts in a way you didn’t expect. Just smirk.
4.Massages work very well, especially if you have knowledge of massage therapy.
5.Ask her lots of questions. Especially nasty or very private ones. You could even try the ones in number 8.
6.Come up with activities.
7.Spend more time with them in general.
If they do not snap out of their funk or whatever it is that bothers them, put them in the friend zone-fuck buddy or the fenced in pasture area of your farm. You can figure out the rest.
29 – 34 years old
This group is bad ass for their sheer maturity. If they are hot as hell, it's even better! They are soo down to earth and chill it's not even funny. They can talk about all kinds of things. They probably cook the best after the 40+ group. They might have kids....they may not. If you are much younger than these women, you can almost forget getting one for a LTR. Too hard in my experience. The ones with kids may take you seriously though. One very pretty one, that was 31 or 32 and divorced and had a 6 year old kid, was excellent for me I thought and we got along well, good English, but I don't have any kids and she was busy alot too, so we did not talk enough like I wanted to. When she had more time to talk, I met my woman by then, so it was nothing by that time.
This group is also brutally honest. If they think you are fat, short, handsome, cute, silly, etc. they will tell you that. The ones with master’s degrees are FANTASTIC to have a conversation with! So fucking smart and knowledgeable! There are many to be found in this group without kids too. Don't be shocked if some of them tell you they don't want any kids. That might be music to some of you guys' ears LOL!
The ones from Guangzhou in this age group have MEAN CURVES! Sexy a** women! Powerful looking legs are plentiful in this group! A few people messaged me asking me where the curvy women at, well the 28-35 group has em the most! Especially in the Southern half of China. Those legs are the nicest (lean muscled, with thicker thighs)
Some Game Techniques for this Group:
1.Some want a husband and have kids. Some have grown kids. Some lost their kids to the husband in a divorce. Some were divorced and have no kids at all. YEAH! All kinds in this age group.
2.Fair warning. If you are a very young cat, lots of these women will turn you down because they may be too traditional. If they think you are handsome and told you that, keep messing with them and see if they will crack.
3.For the ones with kids, I would not try to play many games with them. It’s your call, but they are a little serious. I really wouldn’t mess with them unless they are super-hot.
4.These are pretty desperate for attention. Chinese men ignore them. They either intimidate most Chinese men because they got money and intelligence. They don’t intimidate us at all and they pick up on that vibe. They are just hoping you do not see that sea of 20 year olds behind them that equal or surpass them.
35 – 40+ years old
I honestly do not have much experience with this group at all. Like one 34/35 year old woman I talked with a lot, and that is it. 40ish women would never give me the time of day, no matter what I tried, unless they were probably a cougar on the prowl. Which is possible, I have heard a few guys say that they were shagging a few of those. But this group is too mature and serious. Almost all of them want an older white man 40-80 to marry and live with. They might have 1 grown kid, but that is it. Some do not have any kids!! Some of you guys just might want a cool as hell, old-school minded companion that can cook well, well here you go! Even at 40 the hot ones will make American women her age look like 70 year old cows. Prepare for some serious jealously if you bring them back to the US. Seriously.
People have reported to me that WeChat’s Friend Finder feature is useful for Cougar Hunting and finding DTF women in the 32-50 range, in Tier 1-3 cities, if that is an area of interest for you.
Basic problems with this group include:
1.Old-Fashioned ideas and views.
2.Strong ignorance based racism.
3.Use of traditional Chinese medicine too much.
4.Very strong traditional rituals that make no sense.
Advantages:
1.Cooking skills.
2.Traditional feminine behavior.
3.If a Tiger Wife, they are very vocal and do not hide it, easier to avoid.
4.Thin bodies and decently good looking.
Poor Girls Vs. Rich Girls
Poor Girls
1.Poor Girls can be defined as coming from a family that earns under 5,000rmb for say at least 3 people in that family. Location matters a lot due to cost of living, etc.
2.Some poor-ish looking Chinese may have huge savings in cash (600,000+ RMB) , but maintain the same lifestyle. You can kinda tell if they have things like large cost electronic equipment and nice washers and dryers in their apartments. If a medical issue comes up they instantly always have the cash. If they have a car, that is a dead giveaway as well.
3.Anyone’s family with a car is not poor. Period. I do not care if the car is cheap as hell and barely runs. No one poor owns a car in China. That makes them at least middle class.
4.Poor girls can still be very educated. Do not be surprised if you meet one with mid level English skills but earns 2,000 to 3,500 RMB per month.
5.Poor girls often times work as Customer Service Representatives for factories, international companies that manufacture goods for export (like Aluminum and transistor sales).
6.Poor girls can be found working at malls and similar places. Not all that seem to drop IOIs want you though. They may just be trying to sell you some shit. Sometimes they want to actually touch and talk to you. Wink wink, nod nod.
7.Poor girls can almost always be found working in KTVs, various bars, and clubs. I would wager that over 90 percent of them come from poor families. No middle upper class woman in China would be caught dead working in places like that unless she is kinda weird, low EQ, low IQ, has family problems, or strong insecurities dealing with men.
8.Poor girls are just somewhat more likely to be virgins rather than richer girls. Their virginity can be of value for their family in the form of a dowry, especially if they are pretty. Their parents will guard them strongly and almost always demand a large hong bao. Laowai are no exception to the rule either.
9.Poor Girls are notoriously flaky. If you are too good looking, too rich for them, or just generally out of their league, they have a strong flake potential. Do not always think you have bad game if you get dumped by a 5-6 poor girl. You could discuss potential marriage and they will still flake.
10.Some poor girls will hustle you for money if they know you have it. Avoid letting them know how much you earn or what you have. If they ask change the subject.
11.Are vulnerable to White God Factor/Syndrome. If you are black, you better show them you have "purchasing power" of some degree, for marriage ONLY, otherwise you might get ignored or not taken seriously. LTR and STR doesn't really matter.
Rich Girls
1.Rich girls travel A LOT. Either inside China or outside. Many can be found on online dating websites as women 27+.
2.A girl with a car that costs around or more than 40,000USD in the US, in China is a rich girl. Period. There is a lot more money hiding around her family than you know.
3.Are in all areas of China. Not just tier 1 and 2 cities. Have you ever seen a brand new Mercedes S Class AMG, or a Porsche Cayenne, driving around in rice farm areas in areas under 100,000 population before? It can be seen quite often in China.
4.They either play the field in their early 20’s, take too long trying to pick a man, or spend too much time traveling to find a husband. They freak out around 27 (Sheng nu = leftover women) and try to get serious. If you are looking for serious LTR opportunities, you can have a field day in this group.
5.Often fly on private planes to places or suddenly drop what they are doing to go traveling. If you notice this behavior they might be filthy rich.
6.Often times rich girls have parents with deep CCP connections or rank. That could be a problem if you tried to marry one and bring back to the US because all Communist Party members are heavily investigated first. Also, cheating on her is pretty damn risky for your sake.
7.Many are what they call (Fu Er Dai) which means “Second Generation Rich”. These women are that are called this by other Chinese are usually spoiled as hell, very bratty, and some throw temper tantrums and cry in public making a huge scene by name dropping their daddy’s name.
8.MILF/Cougars have money. Lots of them do. Divorced ones tend to be either middle class or rich. Especially career women with Masters degrees. Lawyers are not always rich and it kind of depends where in China they are located.
9.Beware of the ones looking for Boy Toys. These women want their own male version of a bottlegirl. They will never give you any pussy and will constantly waste your time talking to you and hanging out. Follow the 3 strike rule with rich girls. After the 3 close attempt, throw them out into the pasture.
10.They usually like to pay for everything. Let them, do it. Because even middle upper class women do this.
11.Some rich and most filthy rich Chinese women are “White God Factor/Syndrome Resistant” in a lot of ways. Some are open minded to dating black and brown men and may chase you if they find you first, especially if you have a “nice guy vibe” and have a “great smile”. Some Rich girls love great smiles on men. Why? Eh. Kind of hard to explain. I have gotten that feedback from four of them and never heard that from poorer women, not even my wife and she is middle upper class. Some of this has to do with wanting to avoid local Chinese men that could beat them, be rude, and try to demand their money or other things. Rich Chinese men usually get 20-23 year old girls that are 7-10s they will almost never marry an older one. Their parents won’t approve usually.
Tools of the Trade:
Ok now it is time to breakdown setups, tools, and techniques:
First Steps
1. Download QQ Instant Messenger International Version : http://www.imqq.com/
2. Next you must get WeChat for your phone http://www.wechat.com/en/ (You can use your QQ number account for WeChat)
3. Either write down on a notepad or memorize your QQ number after you sign up for an account. (This is VERY important, cannot stress this enough. This is for online and if you are living there. Without a QQ account, you are a loser to a Chinese person. It will impress the women a lot that you have one and know how to use it.)
3. Install QQ for your smartphone.
4. If you want to check out the young hot ones on QQ international dating (Many speak English, hint hint!)
http://imqq.worldfriends.tv/login.jhtml
*Be sure to get a webcam. Many good women that are serious want to see you at least once before moving forward.
**Warning be careful who you let send you a friend request on QQ, it is very common to get an invite of some freak that wants to show you his penis. Not making this up. It's gross as fuck.
5. I love like this website: http://www.chinalovematch.net/. Check out the testimonials. It's great especially for serious prospects. http://www.chineselovelinks.com/ is a good site too.
OK! Now let’s breakdown proper profile creation.
OK for photos, you will need 4 at minimum. (at least one showing your teeth if they are nice enough) (SMILE!)
1. Suit with a tie, looking SUAVE! not like you went to the ghetto ass suitmart and bought a Steve Harvey/Stacy Adams SUIT! (Any shot style is okay)
2. Picture of you in a nice button down type shirt and jeans in a chilled relax posture.
3. Picture of you with FRIENDS! Not all of them with other girls either! At a party/club/event (This is VERY important.) You MUST show women that you are not a fucking creep living in your mom's basement with no social life! They see you having fun, they start imagining themselves being at that event having fun with you too!!!! See if you can get a beer in your hand too.
*Note, if you are kinda on the older side (30-70), tone it down. Chinese women are conservative most of them, and older ones much more so. The amount of ass and titties inside spandex dresses women here wear at the club being seen in your profile shots, may shock them, and gives the wrong idea. If you chasing 28 and younger ones with no kids, it's okay put one or 2 of those up.
4. Picture of your whole body. If you are good looking with muscles, this will be your seller shot. They want to see what they have to deal with. Honesty is not an instant dis-qualifier like it would be here in the US.
Man what ya'll know about GAME!?
OK let’s break down more online game strategies:
In your profiles or when talking to Chinese women, having been to China before or being in China already is a big plus. If you are at home and have not gone there yet, turn it around into a positive! When they ask you, and they will, say I am planning to go to China this year or very soon, etc. This can give you an opening to convey to her that, "If you and I get serious, you can take me around China and we can travel together." If you go to China set up some dates to meet with you if you want to date several ones, they can help you get around. This really helps you guys that want to get there quickly.
This is VERY VERY important for any guy that has no Mandarin skills yet, but want to go to China and meet ladies. China is HARD to travel through if you leave major cities. Even my friends that are ABC's or haven't lived a long time in China, use guides to get around when they go back. Just Mandarin speaking skills alone is not always good enough! There is a reason why you have to have a license to be a tour guide in China. People go to college to become a tour guide in China. I will cover this more in the Travel Section.
Another huge strategy is to properly eliminate the weak candidates: (This works for online and in person)
In no specific order: (You need to know the first 4 as quickly as possible to not waste time)
1) Ask them if their parents can accept or allow them to marry a laowai. (Can they accept a black/non-white laowai)
A) If they tell you no you cannot marry me, what would you do? Do you have your own passport? (if no, you might be doomed getting that girl, but contact me directly if you want some help with that)
2) Are you interested in living outside of China?
3) Are your parents actively trying to arraign a marriage for you?
A) What is your goal in life right now? (if she says get married, great! Don't take that as a bad sign)
4) Can I see some additional photos of you? (Ask this if their profile photos are photoshopped or too perfect with makeup)
5) Ask them about where they live and where their actual "hometown" is.
6) Ask them what kind of foods are their favorites and what kinds do they like to cook for themselves. (Say it just like that)
7) what are their hobbies. (Don't be shocked if they do not have any, which is normal too)
8) what do they like to do on the weekends with their friends. Ask if they like to go to the KTV bar (Their reactions are what you are looking for)
9) Can you help me with my Chinese (Mandarin) studying?
10) Have you ever met any laowai other than me before?
11) How long have you studied English?
Only use 1-3 for serious prospects. For mere Short Term Relationship stuff, don’t bother with that.
When browsing profiles, beware of immature women (throwing up V for victory signs all the time, stupid duck faces, as well as huge eyeballs via contacts lenses, and excessive photoshop) Some of you already know this, but it must be said.
Any woman over the age of 30 should not be throwing Vs and duckfaces like a tool. You might want to pass them up for LTR or hit them up for short term and practice. Any of the ones over 40 doing that are....lame and probably dress like your grandmother too. They are just trying to be cool, but those are the really corny ones. Up to you on those. The girls under 25 are the worst, too many of them do this (like more than 50%). The ones that do both, might need to be avoided, but kicking the tires on them does not hurt, but test them for maturity. They just might be naive girls but with a great heart and character, trying to fit in or appeal.
In general some Chinese women, especially rural-to-the-city transplants are "out of touch/style" sometimes. They dress like a blind nerd dressed them, really old fashions, and the worst offense of them all.....Mickey Mouse swag... Many Chinese still love to wear Disney shit. Mickey and Minnie Mouse stuff everywhere, especially on the immature ones. This will bother the style conscious man, but it can be possible to talk them out of wearing that, but they still may be a turn off, maturity wise, for other things. Some of the photos you will see of Chinese women will provide either the biggest laugh or biggest WTF!? moments, have fun.
The older they are the more likely they just do not give a fuck about appearances and clothes, if they wear horrible clothes. No need to chase trolls, even if you look like one too.
Another big problem are photos of women with their tits out, trying very HARD to entice men. AVOID if looking for a good traditional girl! If that means, 60% of the profiles are disqualified, so be it! No big deal. If you have no need for a traditional good girl go for it. Some of those women are head cases, scammers, or very Westernized. So it’s up to you. Now I am not talking about a lady with a low cut top on, I am talking about the ones wearing sexy lingerie, the ones with both hands cupping their tits to show the camera, the ones dressed like xiaojie (mandarin for prostitut.es), and extremely inappropriate dress for their age. Leave all those women alone if you cannot handle it. If your dumb ass gets hooked or hustled, charge that shit to the game, and don't come back here talking trash about all Chinese women suck. Chances are good your story will not pass a decent bullshit check. Also why would you want to proclaim your level of stupidity or gullibility to the whole world?
These same rules apply to KTV hoes, massage parlor hoes, hotel massage girl hoes, bathhouse hoes, barbershop hoes, and hoes on the street! Do not attempt to handcuff HOES! Let em go! They are dime a dozen, and the good girls outnumber them alot, like 4 to 1. Maybe even more than that.
A) Like most Asians, Chinese women are not known for giant tits, like European and Western women are. Too many of them use pushup bras, stuff them with sponges, and you could be sorely disappointed in what you see in person. Many stuff their bras. You have been warned.
B) They could be using the photos of a idol/celebrity that no westerner knows about and might be a fraud running scams. If it looks waaay too good to be true, dig deeper. Ask for a regular photo or keep moving.
You must see at least 1 normal photo to counteract getting hooked from a photoshop job. Do not get excited check them out first.
Remember there are still lots of LEGIT 10's out there that are not running a catfish scam, just be careful in your approach.
*If in a serious relationship*
12) Are your parents going to require a dowry? If so, how much? (might be a deal breaker, might not, there is a process to work through covered later) They may give you guys money instead!
13) Am I required to come visit your family for Chinese New Year (Spring Festival)
A) Will we need to bring Hong Bao? (Red Envelope filled with some cash (RMB chinese currency) and how much do we need to have for all the hong bao envelopes. (work with her and her mother on what to do)
14) Do we have to have a wedding ceremony? (find out the costs, etc.)
15) Figure out if you are going to marry in China first or do a K1 Visa instead and bring her to the US or other country) (More on this later.)
More online game tips:
1. Never discuss politics online or in person while either one of you are in China. QQ is monitored, their email, and blogs are monitored. they deep packet inspect all traffic in and out of China for keywords. Don't bring up banned words either like Chen the blind activist, or any of his family members, Tiananmen Square, Tibet, or use the Chinese characters for that shit. Don't let them get too involved in stuff like that. You may never hear from them again, not because they don't like you anymore either......the "Party" picks up people they do not like. Ya dig? Stay low key.
2. Download and use WeChat for your smartphone, you can use your QQ login or facebook login for it. The girls you date may push you into using it, but you may look more cool by having it first before they ask.
3. Make a Qzone page. Qzone is like a kind of Facebook. It uses your QQ login. It's all in Chinese and even running Google Chrome Brower with Chinese translation does not work. If you can put stuff on your Qzone page without help, the women will be HIGHLY impressed.... (at a minimum put a profile picture on it)
You can also browse their Qzone pages and like their pictures or stuff, and that will make them feel very special too!
*Remember ACTIONS = Love to Chinese women* You do not have to buy them lots of junk or say "I love you alot"
Etiquette Tips
Chinese women do not take a long time to decide on a guy. Only the Westernized/Picky/Young Idiotic ones do. What do I mean? Time to introduce you to an awesome article written by a guy that teaches English in China.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/datin...china.htm
Quote:Quote:So there ya go. Chinese women decide QUICKLY! So don't waste too much time with a wishy-washy girl, if looking for only LTR. Read that whole article it is eye opening. Basically it points out that casual sex is not some mainstream thing you can find in China unless you go pay for it. Only KTV hoes do this, and don't be surprised if that girl has a pimp and they shake you down afterwards.
Subsequent to such a group meeting, if a Chinese girl agrees to go out with a man on what we would call a first date, she is formally acknowledging this man as a viable candidate for marriage. If she agrees to a second date, then she is consenting to the distinct possibility of marriage. A third date for a traditional Chinese girl will commonly be perceived as indicating mutual intentions of marriage in the foreseeable future. Western men need to be aware at all times that dating and courtship in China are really this rapid and simplistically linear.
For most "good" Chinese girls, an offer of sex is almost always a gesture of good faith in contemplation of marriage.
*WARNING* Do not monger sweet/pure girls in China, by promising marriage and other things. Doing so we initiate what the locals call a "Human flesh search" for the evil laowai. In smaller cities that can be suicide. If they find you before the police they will confront you, beat you up, and call the police. You will be jailed or deported, usually both. You will get a lifetime ban from China too. In the big cities you might get away with it, but in the small city and rural areas, you will get fucked up. The police won't believe your story and they don't speak English either. The US embassy will just tell you to go home. PLEASE consider other foreigners that are living in China, you will make their lives much worse there by being an asshole.
Special Game Advice for Black Men
For Black men, you will have to use better techniques than some of your peers due to racial stigmas from the West. In China, white skin is always better. Whether white skin on a Chinese person or on a foreigner. Many Chinese women that like foreigners highly crave a mixed blood baby with a white skinned man. That’s great news for white guys, but bad news for us. Kind of. Nah! We have to fine tune our game to separate ourselves from the rest. Just because you are black does not mean that you cannot get a hot Chinese woman at all. Just have to work at it a little harder. That honestly should not be a surprise to any black person reading this. We have to work extra harder in many aspects in life to overcome adversity, so this is just another one of them. By this age, you should already be used to this by now. Some of you non-black but darker skinned/dark tanned guys need to read this as well.
Things that make dating as a black man tougher in China are the following:
1.Stigma that black skin automatically means you came from Africa.
2.Stigma that all Africans have HIV/AIDS. (Some p4p women will deny you outright for this reason and your penis size.)
3.Stigma that white people in America and Europe hate us, it must be for a good reason.
4.Perception from the west that we are bad people who do rapes and crimes.
5.You are one of the poor African migrant workers that are in Guangzhou.
6.Darker skin in general is looked down upon as not ideal regardless of ethnical background and home country.
7.Dark/tanned skin is associated with working in the fields or outside in dirty professions.
8.They think our penises are too big and will not fit into a Chinese pussy. (an Old Wives tale warning they get when younger)
Strategies to overcome these stigmas:
1.DO NOT DRESS LIKE THE AFRICANS in Guangzhou?
2.Use online game to quickly vet out women with skin color issues.
3.Avoid direct day game approaching. Unless using pipeline and pre-validation game while with a Chinese girl.
4.Have a picture of your face on your QQ/Qzone/WeChat profile to prevent sticker shock or flaking.
5.Wear hats, shirts, backpacks, and other gear that make it obvious you are Canadian or American, etc. Your University gear is good too. All American Universities are impressive to almost all Chinese.
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