Quote: (01-10-2012 01:43 AM)misterstir Wrote:
Quote: (01-09-2012 08:47 PM)Wizard Wrote:
Quote: (01-09-2012 03:29 PM)misterstir Wrote:
Quote: (01-09-2012 06:41 AM)Wizard Wrote:
Quote: (01-09-2012 05:25 AM)misterstir Wrote:
I just quick searched, and there are more Iranian girls in my side of toronto than montreal by 3 =) I knew they were a lot of them here. Seriously though, I wouldn't worry about being wiped 100 times, its easy to get around those rules
@Wizard, USA always gives a warning before they invade, its not like Iran can really defend itself against US in the long term, and I'd expect to see a long term bombing campaign so one could easily leave Iran if war broke out unless of course Iran feels suicidal and sneak attacks America, even if they did it'd take 72 hours for US to get it troops in full bomb mode. No different than Libya or Iraq, tonnes of Americans fled in the first few days of war.
The United States will never "invade" Iran, the country is 3x the size of Iraq and the only reason they would ever do it is if Iran literally nuked Israel. Also Iran has connections to terrorist cells all across the middle east, those cells are not going to sit back, and do nothing.
Also it's not going to be 72hrs, the United States has the 5th fleet there and I guarantee you they can have bombers in the air in minutes. The United States also has no embassy in Iran, and to be honest it's not really a major vacation spot.
The Iranians already showed there willing to take hostages, and since the only chance they have to stave off a massive bombing campaign would be to take hostages.
72hr window.. that is just insane.
If someone wants to head to Iran, and get some of that great looking Persian ass then more power to them, but be honest about the danger.
Giving bad advice on this could get someone killed.
I see your point. America COULD do a sneak attack/bombing campaign and there is no American embassy in Iran. But I think they'd want to get their allies like France embassy and their own people at least 72 hours to get out of dodge. They gave Gaddafi multiple warnings and a timeline publicly, they did the same to Iraq and Afghanistan and every other country they basically invade. I don't consider this bad advice because America does not sneak attack countries. They usually try to co-ordinate with allies publicly, give an ultimatum, that is when you want to be leaving.
Of course Iran is dangerous if war was declared, I hope I do not come across as it being not dangerous. Even if US 5th fleet is right there, I think Iran does have a real navy and real surface to air missiles that are going to need to be knocked out before they actually launch a real invasion/bombardment campaign. Anyhow the world works in strange ways and what we are told publicly is not what happens in reality. One would think if any African country would be invaded it'd be Somalia (pirates+terrorist attacks) or Sudan (genocide in darfur+to help southern christians+ international arrest warrant for leader for genocide) but guess who got bombed, a country on friendly terms with the US (Libya) who just was visited by the secretary of state only a few years earlier. Or look at 9/11, 90% saudi hijackers, and we invade afghanistan. These things are hard to predict because we are never given all of the information. We invade Grenada but leave alone Cuba, go figures.
anyways this is starting to go off topic, it should be sufficient to say Iran can turn dangerous quickly if an invasion occurs.
If this were some obscure event that happened in the past then fine, I wouldn't be all over it, but it's not. Someone could literally get killed for following such piss poor advice.
The United States would not wait 3 days to give the Iranian government time to activate assets in the Middle East, nor should people simply think they would be allowed to run away. Europeans, and countries with better relations might have that option but America is uniquely hated by the Iranian government.
Now being thrown in jail and used as a human shield is a pretty damn good option. Right now Iran is suffering a lot of economic turmoil due to recently imposed sanctions, and this is only going to get worse over the next few months.
Please people don't let wishful thinking, and retarded assumptions lead yourself to try and pretend that going to Iran wouldn't be a major risk at the moment.
Remember how it was pointed out that the media likes to fear monger us from travelling anywhere. If you listen to the tv, you'd never leave your house and could come up with a reason not to go anywhere. There probably isn't even going to be a war, its just saber rattling. I bet you $5 no war in the next year and if there is a war I bet you another $5 that Iran gets a 72 hour warning. USA is not going to sneak attack Iran, this is damaging internationally and illegal and given that the Americans can easily win they have nothing to gain by sneak attack. In fact it is the opposite. By giving 72 hours they give the iranian regime a chance to flee the country/step aside so invasion is not necessary.
Even if you were stuck in Iran, Iranians would not go American hunting as they'd be more concern with saving themselves. also while they might try to use tourist hotels as human shields to protect high important things like Saddam did in the 1990s
Fear mongering doesn't erase 30 years of international tension, there is a difference between believing over exaggerated media reports, and using common sense.
Saber rattling is something they've been doing for the past ten years, what is going on now is that finally the economic sanctions recently imposed are playing hell with the Iranian currency. It's driving the cost of everything up, and that means the local population is becoming more disgruntled. The Iranian leaders have just spent the last few months watching autocrats, and revolution spread throughout the Middle East. You think there so dumb as to not think it could happen in their country?
Did you forget the protests that happened after the last elections? Well the Iranians are having new elections in
March and nothing say's pissed off like the economy being run into the ground.
As for the legality if it, are you kidding me? Any nation at any time in history can justify war however the fuck it pleases. Also most of the Middle East would happily watch the United States bomb the shit out of Iran. Do you think there really keen on Iran getting a nuclear bomb?
As for the 72hr warning, what possible reason could the United States have to announce they're coming in 3 days? So they can allow Iran time to arm their defenses, maybe contact Hezbollah?
Also the Iranian regime isn't going to run, why in god's name would they? The United States is not launching a land invasion, it's simply not going to happen.
Also why in god's name would the Iranian government not go American hunting, try this formula.
Hostages + Threats to kill hostages= Pressure America to back down
or they could just call the hostages spies and be done with it.
Your ignorance of the situation and country is frankly appalling and dangerous. You don't trust American media, there are plenty of other foreign papers, try the BBC or Al-Jazeera.
The Iranian government right now is coming under more, and more pressure and there is a big chance that when the elections come there could be some sort of uprising. You really want to visit Iran, wait till the current regime has fallen, or the moderates have been sworn into office.
There are dangerous places in the world, and blind ass optimism won't protect you from the realities of the world.
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