Quote: (11-10-2011 04:22 AM)Spartan Wrote:
I saw a girl reading a book yesterday and asked her if she knew of a cafe nearby. I didn't want to say "Is that a good book?" b/c I saw it was a textbook and it would have been silly.
She gave a short, curt reply. No smile.
when you feel more comfortable going indirect then leading conversation is key. like real LEADING. from what you writing i see (maybe i misinterpret it) that you mainly following meaning that you initiate conversation > she responds with whaterver > you hoped for better response > you lose composure > you give up. that's classic example reaction seeking when you bait, it doesn't hook so you can't pull.
daytime is funny cause girls don't help too much. i told you that. when you go in with casual question like about the book then sure she may answer but only out of politness. but you're still just a stranger asking for a book. when you don't keep talking don't flirt don't lead conversation she will turn around and bye bye. what do you expect? that she's supposed to be grateful that some guy bothered her in bookstore? she's not ready for it
check this video:
focus specifically on..
from 2:05
guy goes in indirect innitialy but only to stop them and then switches and expresses his real intentions quickly. when they laugh and start moving he doesn't let them go away. then handshake where he doesn't flinch and he reaches out his hand and doesn't pull back until they grab it, a few step forward to make it clear he's not gonna give up. they stop and talk to him giggling. and then what? he doesn't stop talking he starts another thread aka he's leading conversation AND steers where he wants.
after that short scene listen to what he says about indirect approach and pay attention to "cutting the bullshit" part.
2:52 - 3:02
this is more of direct approach. the dynamic is different. he goes in with compliment, holds eye contact, she instantly giggles, touches her hair, a bit surprised intimidated, she's leaning in submission, handshake. it's just different from the start.
Quote: (11-10-2011 04:22 AM)Spartan Wrote:
Is there a secret to this? What are the best venues in Poland? Malls, cafes, public transport, universities?
i would go to places where people go to have a good time, to chillout and where socializing is "ok" like pubs or bars or squares or of course college campus venues. if your medical student you should know whole hive of cute girls.
like i said.. daytime socializing with strangers is not our thing. i mean they get some attention here and there like some eye contact exchange with someone in a bus or guy chatting her up in class, you know shit like that but these girls probably have never been properly approached in daytime before in their life. so have some empathy for these stuck up skanks and deal with their bullshit front. THEY WANT IT they're just completely not ready for it.
you can make indirect style work..
+ make sure you're relaxed and in talkative state
+ approach in a direct line unapologetically (that alone takes care of showing balls). get ready for surprised/cold reaction or rough landing
+ say something simple or ask question. simple things like that are within a girl’s reality. anything beyond and more fancy, flashy or too smooth may come across as over the top and weird
+ lead conversation
changing topics. this way interaction is more illogical and fun cause you make it more unpredictable. she can't figure you out. she nas no idea where it is going
+ befriend by exchanging your names. now you're in. there's something magical about names that changes dynamic to more comfortable. she should be less anxious now
+ talk shit, have fun, get to know each other more, boring stuff like what do you like about your college etc. get her to invest and contribute more
+ if you like her tell her why you like her. girl wants to know that the guy likes her for her.
+ exchange contacts. experiment with not using word "number". instead.. "we should meet again" or "we should talk later" and pass her your phone. this has to be done very fucking decisively like you already know 100% she's yours
+ after getting her number stay with her a bit longer. don't do that "number and bye". maybe go somewhere together for few minutes.
truth is in daytime you can be almost like a lame ass having really normal/casual chat. no 'gaming' necessary. after all doing an approach alone is expression of confidence so overgaming with high octane routines is obsolete. i don't really prefer this way but that's only me.
hope that helps : )