Shout Out to Manipulative Men: Is getting caught red-handed cheating salvageable?
02-25-2019, 05:08 PM
If she catches you cheating, and you're not married with kids, 99.9% of the time it's not worth trying to salvage the relationship.
-Lampy
Quote: (02-25-2019 06:05 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:
If shes not keeping you happy and interested, just stop torturing her and go find someone who does.
Unless you are getting off on the whole torture and ruin of her?
Quote: (02-25-2019 02:30 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:
Quote: (02-24-2019 10:51 PM)Cheatingcad Wrote:
What would a dark triad do from here to manipulate a girl back into his orbit?
Why are you interested in keeping her 'in orbit'? You got the bang, you got her 'mind' so to speak. She 'loves' you, seems pretty clear you don't have those same feelings. Why not move on and find a new plate? You don't seem to have much trouble with it.
Quote: (02-26-2019 01:13 AM)Cheatingcad Wrote:
Quote: (02-26-2019 12:50 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:
This thread is some daytime soap/cheap romance novel fiction, and OP is a woman.
We're not all triple fisiting hoes while riding on giant double-ended dildos, pushing needles into our pee holes, Tex. Sorry to bore you.
Quote: (02-26-2019 11:44 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
his perception of the relative "value" of the woman he's "punishing". After all the higher she is in terms of socio-economic value and educated she is, the "higher" he must be in order to be able control, manipulate, and torment her....right OP?
This is just another variant in the long line of "I'm a special snowflake and my damage is unique but not my fault" basic chodes come and go here at RVF
Quote: (02-25-2019 05:08 PM)lampshade Wrote:
If she catches you cheating, and you're not married with kids, 99.9% of the time it's not worth trying to salvage the relationship.
Quote: (02-26-2019 12:59 PM)Jetset Wrote:
Quote: (02-26-2019 11:44 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
his perception of the relative "value" of the woman he's "punishing". After all the higher she is in terms of socio-economic value and educated she is, the "higher" he must be in order to be able control, manipulate, and torment her....right OP?
This is just another variant in the long line of "I'm a special snowflake and my damage is unique but not my fault" basic chodes come and go here at RVF
I'm having trouble reckoning how much of that is really him feeling that way and how much is him trying to back his mistakes into a rationalization for being as irresponsible as he's been.
Both are neckbeard gamma behavior, though. You're right.
Quote: (02-26-2019 06:44 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:
Relevant:
There's a fundamental difference between cheating and trying to hide it, and cheating but trying to get caught to have a particular effect on the girl.
Getting a girl to come back is really not that big a deal. I would guess a great majority of guys on this forum have been able to work it out.
What really takes heavy balls, and is a bigger challenge, is to straight up lay the cards out on the table to a girl and say that monogamy is not in the cards, and she can get to steppin if she doesn't like it. Most guys can't pull that off with a girl that's high quality.
I won't place too much blame on OP, though. A lot of my 'ethos' comes from how Patrice verbalized game, and he did say it helps a lot if a guy goes through a phase where he sleeps with anything that walks, and treats women like absolute shit. After that, nothing phases you. But a big part of Patrice's ethos is that you operate with honesty, unapologetic, with a clear conscience. It feels good that I can't be called a liar, to be known as 'open' and a 'straight shooter.' It's not for everybody, though, and I only really made it an active goal in relationships after making smaller mistakes, tip-toeing around bitches, and seeing that being 'straight' made me and her happy.
I never went as far as OP, and never will. I password protect my homemade sex vids, jaja. But maybe it's just a phase, hopefully it is. Just kinda surprising to see such a... 'basic' thread from a guy who's supposedly 31 and has experience with all this.
Quote: (02-25-2019 09:46 PM)Cheatingcad Wrote:
Here was the best part of my manipulation - She accused me of being constantly online on my messenger app. I already knew I had her at this point, so I iced it with what I did next. I sent her screenshots of my message history (after doing a heavy edit) but I purposefully left one message in there from a girl. She had opened up a jewellery shop in town and wanted me to visit her. High quality social proofing message. Drove my ex insane. "Why are you talking to her? She's a fucking trust fund kid!! Fucking slut"
Quote: (02-26-2019 08:06 PM)Cheatingcad Wrote:
There's nothing gamma about getting caught cheating and then roping a high quality girl back into your orbit. Getting caught cheating and remaining cool under pressure is quite the opposite of gamma, one would've thought. Especially in the West where even ugly girls have loads of options and do not have to settle for anything.
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She has a passive, introverted and agreeable front, but underneath it is an intense plotter. She will go from pushover to tearing at my face with fingernails in a mere second. Explosive, violent temper.
The gamma accusations in previous comments quite ironically come across as quite gamma themselves. But I get it. Manipulative nobodies like me having success banging lots of women would be annoying for the supposed 'moral player' who is so incredibly moral because he cheats without getting caught. What Momma don't know won't hurt her, right?
We all need a bit of self-reflection here, even the supposed RVForum experts. Accusing someone who bangs lots of women as gamma just comes across as butthurt and weird.