to 10 Virgin to Chad Scale
02-13-2019, 12:45 PM
I've been thinking about a scale to describe various levels of a man's social and sexual status, more accurate than the traditional alpha-beta dichotomy.
It would serve as a personal reference tool for guys, and I'm gladly sharing the idea with you here. I've seen great personal growth since I registered here, and I'd like to have a system of following and defining it.
The alpha-beta dichotomy, while great for a basic Us-versus-them/cool kids vs. lame kids/Redpill vs. bluepill differentiation, is not accurate enough. There are layers of being a player. Furthermore, especially in late teens/early twenties, we usually have a mix of beta and alpha traits simply because we've not grown as men yet.
My scale doesn't refer to your economic status: both an unemployed, broke, muscular, obnoxious Chad and a successful, manly, refined gentleman with tight game might be 10's. Also, physical looks are not that important - besides, it would need to be a very complex mathematical scale measuring your physical attractiveness, wealth, pure game, even race because some women judge guys on race, etc. etc. - this is far more simple. A measure of your game, non-acceptance of bullshit and overall alpha-ness.
Here is my personal example - I fucked more than any other guy in my class of 30 people in high school, I worked out and looked decent (not great!), I had reasonably good grades - but I treated women like a beta, I wasn't by far the coolest nor the most handsome guy in my generation of 150 people; nor did I spit tight game by any rate. I was mainly a polite goody-two-shoes, although I did sometimes tease and neg girls. That, together with my reasonable attractiveness, meant that I still did smash although I was more of a beta than alpha. Other guys in my class were mainly incels or fags, so there's that.
Nota bene: in the Balkans, most of the people start drinking and smoking cigarettes; and top 30% of 'cooler' guys and girls also start having sex in highschool, aged 15-19.
So, without further ado, this is the sketch of my scale.
I will concentrate on the upper marks (5+), where I believe 99% of this Forum's members are...
It isn't intended as a dick-measuring contest.
The primary purpose is introspection and reflection of personal growth.
The secondary purpose is, of course, for the sake of bro-science.
1 Basement-dwelling, neckbearded incel
A total trainwreck of a man. Black-pilled, ugly, bitter, no game, no social status. Suicide prospects - high.
2 Fat fucker
Still might grow and come far, think of Napoleon. Exercise, finish a good college, transform yourself, become confident, approach women, get rejected a thousand times, start fucking. You might make a 10.
But, currently, has low prospects - unattractive, no one hangs out with him, no friends except for people with whom he plays MMORPG's online.
Probably a virgin and will probably remain so, unless drastic measures are taken.
3 Dumb fucker with saliva dripping from his nose onto his notebook
There's no cure for your lack of brains, but if you work out, be cocky and make a decent lower-middle-class career, you might make an 8 on this list.
4 Beta male
Very blue-pilled with women, might still be a virgin. Rarely goes out.
At least the other guys didn't beat him up in high school unlike the first three. Usually.
5 The average Joe
Has some success with women. Not the boss of the group, but sometimes tells a good joke or a cool story. Most of the guys you know fall into this category and won't ever rise up. Blue-pilled with hints of red pill in all areas of life, from politics to game.
Sometimes enters into alcohol-induced brave mode and actually approaches a chick. Occasionally even kisses her.
If and when he fucks a drunk 7, that's the highlight of his entire year.
6 The lesser alpha with beta traits
The beginning of every player who isn't born with a six-pack, perfect facial features, at least 185cm high and upper middle class parents.
''Me in high school/college''. 16-25 years old. Absorbed many manly skills and character traits, but still not possessing the full player mentality. Above average success with women, but still prone to: catching oneitis, pedestalizing pussy, desperate restart texts, needy reactions to girls leaving him on 'seen' etc.
Uses basic player protocols like being mysterious, not answering girls' questions directly, passing shit-tests, but still has to actively think
in order not to behave like a beta and do something stupid like send a nervous 'hey, where are you' after she leaves him on 'seen' for an hour.
Usually kisses on the first date.
7 The 'cool guy'
This is when you start actively exploring the pick-up community, see and understand the entire theory and, damn it, science behind it.
Also, your social standing is up - you're usually among the top 3 most respected guys in a squad of 10.
When you start getting 2 different party/nightclub invitations for Saturday night with cool people, you're there.
Absorbing and living the abundance mentality, the outcome independence; understanding lizards, negging them, teasing them constantly have all become second nature.
Starts spinning plates and might set up and maintain an LTR + a FB relationship, or several fuckbuddies.
Sometimes fucks on the first date.
8 The player
Very confident and with decent experience. Can approach most girls and get a number close.
Spins plates successfully. The pipeline rarely goes dry - always has a reserve 6 solo friend and occasional FB, or a 7 in preparation.
Has a great social circle - not necessarily made of true friends, but surely has 20 work/college/high school colleagues he can drink a beer or play football with. Is respected in that circle.
When you start getting bored of girls after fucking them 3 times, you might have reached this level.
Generally fucks on the first date, even good girls.
9 The king
Don't need to think for a second about a pickup line. He has seen it all, hell, he has fucked them all - the prom queen 9, the athletic Herbalife fanatic, the pole-dancing slut, the girl-next-door 7.
Everything is streamlined. The bar, the venue change, the escalation of kino, the invitation back home, the sex. It's a routine - perfected and practiced frequently.
Notch count of at least a hundred.
Doesn't care about anyone - everyone is replaceable. He's the AMOG wherever he goes.
Fucks bitches in their asses on the first date.
10 The legend
You own a forum for players. You write books on picking up chicks for a living.
It would serve as a personal reference tool for guys, and I'm gladly sharing the idea with you here. I've seen great personal growth since I registered here, and I'd like to have a system of following and defining it.
The alpha-beta dichotomy, while great for a basic Us-versus-them/cool kids vs. lame kids/Redpill vs. bluepill differentiation, is not accurate enough. There are layers of being a player. Furthermore, especially in late teens/early twenties, we usually have a mix of beta and alpha traits simply because we've not grown as men yet.
My scale doesn't refer to your economic status: both an unemployed, broke, muscular, obnoxious Chad and a successful, manly, refined gentleman with tight game might be 10's. Also, physical looks are not that important - besides, it would need to be a very complex mathematical scale measuring your physical attractiveness, wealth, pure game, even race because some women judge guys on race, etc. etc. - this is far more simple. A measure of your game, non-acceptance of bullshit and overall alpha-ness.
Here is my personal example - I fucked more than any other guy in my class of 30 people in high school, I worked out and looked decent (not great!), I had reasonably good grades - but I treated women like a beta, I wasn't by far the coolest nor the most handsome guy in my generation of 150 people; nor did I spit tight game by any rate. I was mainly a polite goody-two-shoes, although I did sometimes tease and neg girls. That, together with my reasonable attractiveness, meant that I still did smash although I was more of a beta than alpha. Other guys in my class were mainly incels or fags, so there's that.
Nota bene: in the Balkans, most of the people start drinking and smoking cigarettes; and top 30% of 'cooler' guys and girls also start having sex in highschool, aged 15-19.
So, without further ado, this is the sketch of my scale.
I will concentrate on the upper marks (5+), where I believe 99% of this Forum's members are...
It isn't intended as a dick-measuring contest.
The primary purpose is introspection and reflection of personal growth.
The secondary purpose is, of course, for the sake of bro-science.
1 Basement-dwelling, neckbearded incel
A total trainwreck of a man. Black-pilled, ugly, bitter, no game, no social status. Suicide prospects - high.
2 Fat fucker
Still might grow and come far, think of Napoleon. Exercise, finish a good college, transform yourself, become confident, approach women, get rejected a thousand times, start fucking. You might make a 10.
But, currently, has low prospects - unattractive, no one hangs out with him, no friends except for people with whom he plays MMORPG's online.
Probably a virgin and will probably remain so, unless drastic measures are taken.
3 Dumb fucker with saliva dripping from his nose onto his notebook
There's no cure for your lack of brains, but if you work out, be cocky and make a decent lower-middle-class career, you might make an 8 on this list.
4 Beta male
Very blue-pilled with women, might still be a virgin. Rarely goes out.
At least the other guys didn't beat him up in high school unlike the first three. Usually.
5 The average Joe
Has some success with women. Not the boss of the group, but sometimes tells a good joke or a cool story. Most of the guys you know fall into this category and won't ever rise up. Blue-pilled with hints of red pill in all areas of life, from politics to game.
Sometimes enters into alcohol-induced brave mode and actually approaches a chick. Occasionally even kisses her.
If and when he fucks a drunk 7, that's the highlight of his entire year.
6 The lesser alpha with beta traits
The beginning of every player who isn't born with a six-pack, perfect facial features, at least 185cm high and upper middle class parents.
''Me in high school/college''. 16-25 years old. Absorbed many manly skills and character traits, but still not possessing the full player mentality. Above average success with women, but still prone to: catching oneitis, pedestalizing pussy, desperate restart texts, needy reactions to girls leaving him on 'seen' etc.
Uses basic player protocols like being mysterious, not answering girls' questions directly, passing shit-tests, but still has to actively think
in order not to behave like a beta and do something stupid like send a nervous 'hey, where are you' after she leaves him on 'seen' for an hour.
Usually kisses on the first date.
7 The 'cool guy'
This is when you start actively exploring the pick-up community, see and understand the entire theory and, damn it, science behind it.
Also, your social standing is up - you're usually among the top 3 most respected guys in a squad of 10.
When you start getting 2 different party/nightclub invitations for Saturday night with cool people, you're there.
Absorbing and living the abundance mentality, the outcome independence; understanding lizards, negging them, teasing them constantly have all become second nature.
Starts spinning plates and might set up and maintain an LTR + a FB relationship, or several fuckbuddies.
Sometimes fucks on the first date.
8 The player
Very confident and with decent experience. Can approach most girls and get a number close.
Spins plates successfully. The pipeline rarely goes dry - always has a reserve 6 solo friend and occasional FB, or a 7 in preparation.
Has a great social circle - not necessarily made of true friends, but surely has 20 work/college/high school colleagues he can drink a beer or play football with. Is respected in that circle.
When you start getting bored of girls after fucking them 3 times, you might have reached this level.
Generally fucks on the first date, even good girls.
9 The king
Don't need to think for a second about a pickup line. He has seen it all, hell, he has fucked them all - the prom queen 9, the athletic Herbalife fanatic, the pole-dancing slut, the girl-next-door 7.
Everything is streamlined. The bar, the venue change, the escalation of kino, the invitation back home, the sex. It's a routine - perfected and practiced frequently.
Notch count of at least a hundred.
Doesn't care about anyone - everyone is replaceable. He's the AMOG wherever he goes.
Fucks bitches in their asses on the first date.
10 The legend
You own a forum for players. You write books on picking up chicks for a living.
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