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01-18-2019, 09:29 AM
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Ukraine Pre-Orange Revolution before 2005....No smartphones, no social media, no airbnb, no budget airlines, needed a Visa and before 2002(even after depending on the Visa) needed registration with the Visa......3-4:1 club ratios and decent nightlife.....I laugh when I see posts like "oh 2008, 2012" etc.
Well it depends on who we are talking about, decent looking guys still doing well in Ukriane despite the deterioration there, even since my early days in Ukraine, Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners. The nightlife was never that great either.
So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001
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01-18-2019, 10:25 AM
And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere....."Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners." Never said they did. "The nightlife was never that great either..." I said decent, especially given the ratios, I didn't say great.
"So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001" I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.
You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...
I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.
Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....
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01-18-2019, 11:18 AM
Quote: (01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:
And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.
You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...
I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.
Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....
Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere
Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )
You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.
What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.
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I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.
For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?
Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?
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01-18-2019, 03:44 PM
For us young guys a lot of these places are still pussy paradises.
I see early 2000s were a good time for Asia and Eastern Europe well I’m sure men who went there in the 1990s would scoff at that idea. Men who went there in the 1980s would say the same as well.
I don’t know how it was pre smart phone but when I started going to Asia a couple of years ago, it was easier than anything I of realistically dreamed up.
A man is only as faithful as his options-Chris Rock
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01-18-2019, 04:38 PM
Quote: (01-18-2019 11:26 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:
Quote: (01-18-2019 11:18 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:
Quote: (01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:
And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.
You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...
I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.
Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....
Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere
Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )
You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.
What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.
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I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.
For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?
Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?
"Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere" You started this dance buddy...
"What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport." The title of the thread is: "Did you ever hit a Pussy Paradise and when?" I posted, wasn't out scoffing anyone. In fact, I clarified it in my reply to you:
"You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life..."
As far as facts, I stated them in my original post. Don't believe me? Google some of them. Not hard to do. When did smartphones enter the market? AirBnB, Visa restrictions, budget airlines, etc.
BTW No one knows who you are either pal. Good luck with that Rep point.
Everyone know's about the globalist weapons of destruction for single men, no need to go over old ground.
You're the only one talking about rep points
You haven't contributed an awful lot in the many years you have been on the forum, you've told us how great it was pre-orange revolution time but you haven't told us a single thing about your experiences.
Here's some "words of wisdom" of yours
thread-37535...pid1100089
Most of it complete rubbish like "Carrying your passport at all times" only a fool would do that.
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01-18-2019, 04:52 PM
I think that these days in Ukraine you need an edge over the marauding hoards. Just turning up being foreign, good looking, and having some money in your pocket isn't enough anymore. If you're planning on living there, then you need a strategy which is not drinking all day and night and trying to get ONS from clubs.
Many of them want to go and work in Europe - so set up a company hooking up Ukrainians with work in EU
Many want to be models or dancers - Set up a an agency
They need to know good English to be employable in EU - be a private tutor
Tell them you have a fashion company and you can get them discounted clothing from EU
Give them a reason to be with a guy that's old enough to be their father.
The biggest weakness of Ukrainian women is that many, especially the younger ones, are gullible as fuck. I encourage bullshitting them as much as possible. They are often gaming you more than you realise.
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01-18-2019, 04:59 PM
Don't shit where you eat. It'll be enough for them to accidentally meet some SJW journalist to organise a witchhaunt on you for "exploiting poor eastern European girls for sexual favours" and become the toxic male anti-hero of the week in headlines. Not worth risking.
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01-18-2019, 05:43 PM
1998 - Prague and Krakow for cities, Corfu and Ios for destinations.
1999 - 2005 - Tokyo. Jeezuz this was an amazing time.
2002- Thailand.
When Tinder first came out it was nuts (ha) in Vancouver.
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01-18-2019, 05:50 PM
Mexico 1997-98
DR in 2000-2005
Cuba 2000-2001
Medellin 2010
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01-19-2019, 09:25 AM
As a young man in the 80's, I recall talking to truck drivers, who were doing long range runs, to countries that were then described as "Iron Curtain". There was no talk of women, probably because these guys had a schedule to keep, but they discussed things like restaurants, and certain consumer goods, and how much they were able to obtain/do by using dollars instead of local currencies. It makes me wonder what other aspects of life, such as PUA, would have been like then for a well turned out Anglo guy, on a good wage.
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01-19-2019, 10:04 AM
If you mean ease of lays, that varies a lot not only by era but also geographically and of course per what the individual brings to the table. For me the paradise angle had as much to do with the mutual curiosity factor, pre-Google, where neither side knew too much about the other without serious research. I miss those days.
Seoul (and other cities), South Korea 1995-2000ish. Be American and you were good. Speak the language, and you were god. Amazing.
Vietnam, mid 90s- right before the big cruises and mega construction got there. The women were still pretty conservative, but that was a good thing.
Thailand, late 90s, pre-stupidly large crowds of tourists, especially in places like Chang Mai. This is pretty much happening all over SEA now.
The pre-smartphone/Google era made for a sense of discovery that younger guys unfortunately won't ever experience unless they go really far into the sticks. By sticks I'm talking undesirable places like rural India or Afghanistan, probably risking life and limb only to meet some pretty ugly women who still aren't so easy to get.
Even most US cities back before the smartphone were not so bad, and club game worked well before club owners started blasting the music so loud nobody could talk (sells more drinks). Throw in the smartphones and shitty ratios - just forget it now. There was definitely a sweet spot in the west that probably started in the late seventies and went up through the expiration of early game, a-la Strauss and his now obsolete book, The Game.
In addition to the smartphone, an early canary in the coal mine for all of the aforementioned places was the arrival and eventual flourishing of unusual body piercings and multiple tattoos all over women. Tats on women were very rare in the west and unheard of in Asia till about the late 90s. Even then it took a while to catch on since most women still didn't want to look like whores. Actual hookers on the streets of Asia in 1996 looked prim & proper compared to the average "non-prostitute" woman painted like a subway underpass nowadays. The hookers of old probably had lower notch counts too. It's a sad inversion of reality.
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01-19-2019, 02:20 PM
Mexico City two years ago. Banged 7 Mexicanas in 6 days.
Could likely repeat but forum reports seem to indicate things are changing over there
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01-20-2019, 08:51 PM
To those who have been to both... how would you compare Colombia and Mexico in terms of amount of online dates (no single moms, no dark girls from the slums)? And between Mexico and Peru?