[Richard Turpin]

Biggest head-scratcher for me since is how did Hawkeye ......SPOILER........... win the Soul-stone (supposedly won by willingly sacrificing someone you love, according to Red Skull), when he didn't sacrifice jack-shit. He was in fact utterly opposed to Black Widow dying! I know it's just a movie, but if I was Red Skull I wouldn't let him have it, is all I'm sayin'.

[sterling_archer]

Btw, how did Red Skull got his job there?

[Malone]

(05-06-2019 12:57 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Btw, how did Red Skull got his job there?

Craigslist.

[spokepoker]

(05-06-2019 12:57 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Btw, how did Red Skull got his job there?

The tesseract (space?) stone teleported him there from the first Cpt America movie.
Not sure why he knows everyone that goes for the soul stone.
I think that's also what gave Heimdahl the power to teleport Thor/Hulk wherever.
Maybe they both got imbued with "everywhere sight" except red skull got stuck babysitting the useless ass soul stone.
Soul stone reminds of the indian kid from captain planet.

[Goldin Boy]

(05-06-2019 12:08 PM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

Biggest head-scratcher for me since is how did Hawkeye ......SPOILER........... win the Soul-stone (supposedly won by willingly sacrificing someone you love, according to Red Skull), when he didn't sacrifice jack-shit. He was in fact utterly opposed to Black Widow dying! I know it's just a movie, but if I was Red Skull I wouldn't let him have it, is all I'm sayin'.

Hawkeye didn't sacrifice anyone. Black Widow killed herself. Assuming that Black Widow doesn't have low self-esteem and loves herself then the stone should appear. (Even if the stone appeared in the dead Black Widow's hand, Clint could just take and leave). Bigger question is why didn't Nebula tell the guys someone would have to die to get that particular stone.


Best part of the movie was that Capt Marvel was only given 30 mins of screen time and a merciful 5 mins of dialogue.

Dumbest part was Capt America: He broke the rules of time travel going to be beta with that British chick at the end, which broke the time travel rules that Ant-Man laid out. And how was he able to sleep at night for 50+ years knowing that Hydra was infiltrating SHIELD and Bucky was being brainwashed into being a Soviet assassin?

[Bienvenuto]

(05-01-2019 09:04 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  

To add to the above, Thanos headbutting Captain Marvel and Marvel not budging made me cringe, too. Instant Mary Sue.

1. Every time Captain Marvel appeared and said something I actually laughed out loud. She was so cringe worthy it was untrue..

Reckon she had alot of screen time cut out post shooting. "I'm just going to disappear now.." "Okay .. see you at the end then"

2. As for the ensemble cast its a kind of MTV best of Syndrome. They put all the greatest rock stars on stage and wait for their zinging!! interactions.. Well you usually get less than the sum of the parts.

In this case the scriptwriters force these in-your-face arguments out of nowhere that are >kind-of-forced and hard to believe.

3. All these skinny elderly soy boys trying to sound sage and wise was a bit of a joke. One can see how Penis struck human-pinata Robert Downey Jr with his little daughter would be the conscience/ leader/ poster boy/ Jesus Christ figure for the globalists.

4. Captain America's appearance at the end as the spitting image of Joe Biden (hair-and-all), complete with gravelly Joe Biden inflections, was no accident.

Not from the people that brought you the 1995 movie The American President/ otherwise titled "Re-elect Bill Clinton! Please!" No, no.. that was no accident.

5. Anyone notice how Utterly Token The Black Panther is? Him and his supporting cast.. They only ever get a little cameo in the Final Battle scenes and about 2 lines of dialogue.

Seems Marvel is not as woke as they want us to believe.

[MikeS]

(05-06-2019 06:03 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 12:08 PM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

Biggest head-scratcher for me since is how did Hawkeye ......SPOILER........... win the Soul-stone (supposedly won by willingly sacrificing someone you love, according to Red Skull), when he didn't sacrifice jack-shit. He was in fact utterly opposed to Black Widow dying! I know it's just a movie, but if I was Red Skull I wouldn't let him have it, is all I'm sayin'.

Hawkeye didn't sacrifice anyone. Black Widow killed herself. Assuming that Black Widow doesn't have low self-esteem and loves herself then the stone should appear. (Even if the stone appeared in the dead Black Widow's hand, Clint could just take and leave). Bigger question is why didn't Nebula tell the guys someone would have to die to get that particular stone. ...

I got the impression he sacrificed a very close friend? He seemed very close with Black Widow in one or two of the earlier Avengers movies.

Edit: Although the way she did indeed kill herself you could of course say he didn't make the choice to sacrifice anyone, but he still lost someone he cared for.

[Manbeline]

(05-06-2019 09:31 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:04 AM)Manbeline Wrote:  

To add to the above, Thanos headbutting Captain Marvel and Marvel not budging made me cringe, too. Instant Mary Sue.

1. Every time Captain Marvel appeared and said something I actually laughed out loud. She was so cringe worthy it was untrue..

Reckon she had alot of screen time cut out post shooting. "I'm just going to disappear now.." "Okay .. see you at the end then"

2. As for the ensemble cast its a kind of MTV best of Syndrome. They put all the greatest rock stars on stage and wait for their zinging!! interactions.. Well you usually get less than the sum of the parts.

In this case the scriptwriters force these in-your-face arguments out of nowhere that are >kind-of-forced and hard to believe.

3. All these skinny elderly soy boys trying to sound sage and wise was a bit of a joke. One can see how Penis struck human-pinata Robert Downey Jr with his little daughter would be the conscience/ leader/ poster boy/ Jesus Christ figure for the globalists.

4. Captain America's appearance at the end as the spitting image of Joe Biden (hair-and-all), complete with gravelly Joe Biden inflections, was no accident.

Not from the people that brought you the 1995 movie The American President/ otherwise titled "Re-elect Bill Clinton! Please!" No, no.. that was no accident.

5. Anyone notice how Utterly Token The Black Panther is? Him and his supporting cast.. They only ever get a little cameo in the Final Battle scenes and about 2 lines of dialogue.

Seems Marvel is not as woke as they want us to believe.

That's because all the minority groups in their movies are their special little pandering pets. That is just the fact of the matter. They likely know it, too. Talk about your integrity being put down when your merit did not get you where you are, simply identity politics. They would use whips and keep the actors on a plantation until the next movie if they could get away with it.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The professor is right - the MCU movies will be subjugated to the propaganda ever more.

That is why they had to do what they did:

+ de-power the Hulk and make him into the safe masculinity vs. the toxic uncontrollable one
+ eliminate the Beauty and the Beast story from before where the Widow had a thing with the Hulk
+ kill off the Widow because she is the old sexy femininity and the new one is Brie Larson or some lesbian characters
+ wipe away Captain America, because who needs him, right? He is a toxic white male - the enemy! The actor himself could have been the main central point of the Avengers, but then Captain Marvale could not become the leader or some diverse character, right?

Oh - and the Russos fired Mark Ruffalo because they already have something else in mind with the Hulk.

[Leonard D Neubache]

So you've got the Hulk being a CGI creation voice acted by Ruffalo.

I wonder how long it will be before basically you have Ruffalo launching a law suit because they got an impersonator and cut him out of the loop entirely.

Maybe their contracts cover this shit now but who knows?

What if I animate a guy that looks and sounds like DiCaprio only I find a passable duplicate IRL for visuals and sound to sign off on the "acting" and say "sorry, you cant copyright an identity"?

My oldest boy is already fooling around with home animation studios that produce scenes comparable with last decade's Hollywood b-grade CGI. How long will it be until a bunch of high school students are making full length movies with ripoff Hollywood star animations?

Personally I'm really looking forward to Revenant 2: Revenge of the rape bear.

[CynicalContrarian]

As stated prior.
The MCU is now the Marvel Clown Universe.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The only somewhat heroic white cis-male remaining is Starlord, but he got kicked in the balls twice in the movie. I am sure that they will ruin him in the next installments after the pedophile director gets his fingers on him. Plus the actor is a public Christian - they need to kill him off sooner or later.

[MikeS]

(05-10-2019 06:40 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  



The only somewhat heroic white cis-male remaining is Starlord, but he got kicked in the balls twice in the movie. I am sure that they will ruin him in the next installments after the pedophile director gets his fingers on him. Plus the actor is a public Christian - they need to kill him off sooner or later.

I thought fat Thor was pretty amusing. And the team was making plenty of jokes about him - parts of the SJW media was crying "fat shaming!".
Binge drinking and eating seems about on par with what I would expect from a depressed Asgardian.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Yes - fat Thor is funny by itself, but when you know where they are going with it and why they are doing it, then it's not funny.

That is why he had to abdicated to a lesbian non-Scandinavian Valkyrie, that is why next you might get a female Thor as he will be deemed unworthy.
It's another one of those feminazi tropes that you miss unless you see what they did before in the comics. Then suddenly you realize that it's not by coincidence Thor got fat, Hulk became a powerless non-smashing hipster who suddenly forgot about his little romance with the Widow, that is why the Widow died and why Captain America was aged out and black-washed. Welcome to woke Marvel - you will enjoy Squirrel Girl, Muslim Ms Marvel, twink Spiderman and new leaderette Captain Marvel.

[MikeS]

(05-10-2019 03:35 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Yes - fat Thor is funny by itself, but when you know where they are going with it and why they are doing it, then it's not funny.

That is why he had to abdicated to a lesbian non-Scandinavian Valkyrie, that is why next you might get a female Thor as he will be deemed unworthy.
It's another one of those feminazi tropes that you miss unless you see what they did before in the comics. Then suddenly you realize that it's not by coincidence Thor got fat, Hulk became a powerless non-smashing hipster who suddenly forgot about his little romance with the Widow, that is why the Widow died and why Captain America was aged out and black-washed. Welcome to woke Marvel - you will enjoy Squirrel Girl, Muslim Ms Marvel, twink Spiderman and new leaderette Captain Marvel.

I expect that this was the end of the (mostly) great MCU years and that many or most of the upcoming movies (I see they've already scheduled eight, most unnamed, before the end of 2022) will be ones I will choose to skip, because they most likely will push the agenda too far even for my relatively forgiving taste.
I actually watched Captain Marvel at the cinema a couple of weeks ago, it was indeed about as bad as expected and the main character almost as insufferable as the actress playing the role.

I still think they did fairly well with Thor in Endgame. Yes, he gave up leadership to the valkyrie, but he went looking for adventure with the Guardians instead of choosing a life as patriarch of a Norwegian village. Not exactly totally giving up on masculine pursuits.

[semibaron]

Captain Marvel was the first Marvel movie I've watched since Avengers 1. Watched it in Medellin while a hot Venezuelanian was rubbing my dick in the last row of the cinema. Great movie, really enjoyed it.

[MikeS]

(05-10-2019 04:50 PM)semibaron Wrote:  

Captain Marvel was the first Marvel movie I've watched since Avengers 1. Watched it in Medellin while a hot Venezuelanian was rubbing my dick in the last row of the cinema. Great movie, really enjoyed it.

Would you have enjoyed it without the dick rubbing?

[Easy_C]

Going off and seeking adventure and fun instead of leadership isn’t “masculine”. It is Peter Pan behavior

[MikeS]

(05-10-2019 05:38 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Going off and seeking adventure and fun instead of leadership isn’t “masculine”. It is Peter Pan behavior

What happened to this forum? It's like half of it or more suddenly became tired old men discussing god and country and family life. What happened to adventure and conquest and travel?

Sorry if that sounded like a personal attack, it wasn't meant as such but a broader observation on forum trends. All these grim views of societal collapse and slightly paranoid - if broadly but probably not always specifically correct - views of indoctrinating and masculinity sapping media are getting a bit out of hand sometimes.

[Captainstabbin]

(05-10-2019 06:34 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

So you've got the Hulk being a CGI creation voice acted by Ruffalo.

I wonder how long it will be before basically you have Ruffalo launching a law suit because they got an impersonator and cut him out of the loop entirely.

Maybe their contracts cover this shit now but who knows?

Contracts cover the "likeness" (and sometimes even the mannerisms) of the actor and, so far, that's been broadly interpreted in favor of the actor over the studio. Even when they sign over their likeness for future use, actors' attorneys are always looking for a loophole.

(05-10-2019 03:27 PM)MikeS Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 06:40 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  



The only somewhat heroic white cis-male remaining is Starlord, but he got kicked in the balls twice in the movie. I am sure that they will ruin him in the next installments after the pedophile director gets his fingers on him. Plus the actor is a public Christian - they need to kill him off sooner or later.

I thought fat Thor was pretty amusing. And the team was making plenty of jokes about him - parts of the SJW media was crying "fat shaming!".
Binge drinking and eating seems about on par with what I would expect from a depressed Asgardian.

Meanwhile, Fat-Thor was in better shape than most of the audience.

[Mark Fletcher]

(05-10-2019 08:07 PM)MikeS Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 05:38 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Going off and seeking adventure and fun instead of leadership isn’t “masculine”. It is Peter Pan behavior

What happened to this forum? It's like half of it or more suddenly became tired old men discussing god and country and family life. What happened to adventure and conquest and travel?

Sorry if that sounded like a personal attack, it wasn't meant as such but a broader observation on forum trends. All these grim views of societal collapse and slightly paranoid - if broadly but probably not always specifically correct - views of indoctrinating and masculinity sapping media are getting a bit out of hand sometimes.

As someone who barely posts here and mostly lurks, I never thought it to be my place to bring that up, but I’ve noticed this for a while now. It’s fine if the forum is moving in a more political/family life direction, but it almost seems like half the posters here now (even older ones) are nothing like the men posting here as recently as a year or so ago. Seeking adventure and fun are childish activities? Come on man. I’ll stop climbing mountains for fun since I guess that’s not masculine enough.

As far as the political/societal collapse talk lately, I think it was LDN who recently said something along the lines of any effective actions we could take at this point, we can’t just talk about openly, even here (which I agree with). So with that in mind, why dwell on it constantly? We don’t need to hear how bad everything sucks constantly. We all already know and I think it’s made the forum a much more pessimistic place over the last few months. I’ll keep my adventure and fun while being fully aware of the larger situation and not let it turn me into a boring old man at 25.

[BBinger]

(05-10-2019 06:34 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

My oldest boy is already fooling around with home animation studios that produce scenes comparable with last decade's Hollywood b-grade CGI. How long will it be until a bunch of high school students are making full length movies with ripoff Hollywood star animations?

Personally I'm really looking forward to Revenant 2: Revenge of the rape bear.

I was amazed at how much big chunks of Black Panther and Infinity War CGI looked like they could have been pulled from a video game console.

Back in 2008 I thought Iron Man and Edward Norton Hulk (Fight Club II: Durden Goes Green) were more enjoyable watches than The Dark Night. Iron Man went to Afghanistan, that seemed fairly grounded at the time even with the magic chest energy thing... Now shit is way too entwined and diverged from the real world to carry a story.

Whatever happened to the gold old days when people made movies, and sequels were the exception? But... instead people had to go and recreate radio serials and tv series at the box office.

[Captainstabbin]

(05-10-2019 10:22 PM)BBinger Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 06:34 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

My oldest boy is already fooling around with home animation studios that produce scenes comparable with last decade's Hollywood b-grade CGI. How long will it be until a bunch of high school students are making full length movies with ripoff Hollywood star animations?

Personally I'm really looking forward to Revenant 2: Revenge of the rape bear.

I was amazed at how much big chunks of Black Panther and Infinity War CGI looked like they could have been pulled from a video game console.

Black Panther had some of the worst CGI for a $200 million movie. That final fight scene was embarrassingly bad.

Freeze frame the waterfall scene sometime - the people in the upper levels are literally just copies that don't even move.

[Manbeline]

I want to add something to Captain Marvel. It's this shot during Endgame. The reason I look at this and the reaction it is having across the net, before the shoe in women power scene, is that this is the only time, THE ONLY TIME, when Captain Marvel shows a feminine side. The way she says "Hey, Peter Parker? Got some something for me?" It was sultry, it was woman like, it almost felt like she was a real character. An actual smile rather than that smug look she carried for who knows how long.

If only they kept with this version of her, she would have been far more likeable, like a Power girl personality. It could have worked, if it was another time. A diamond in the rough.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Seeking adventure, travel, danger. Sowing your wild oats. That's supposed to be a small phase in a larger life in which you play your part in the patriarchal society. Arguably it should take place roughly between the time you cease education and last five years at most. I suppose some 30-40 year old bachelors like to present the idea that they're hacking their way through mysterious jungles and fucking native women that have never seen a white man before but let's get real. Ticking off flags is less "adventurous" than it's ever been. It's no more masculine for men than it is empowering for women.

Whether you're ticking off flags or raising sons, try not to buy into your own bullshit. We all know masculinity when we see it and it's not a fucking vibrant Instagram account or being treated like a slave by a sour wife and spoiled kids.

As for Thor leaving his people to fuck around who-knows-where, yes, that's faggotry just the same as it would be if I decided to ditch my wife and kids to "go adventuring".

Not many people know what fucking responsibility is anymore.