[kbell]

The movie looks like its super long. What happened to 2 hour movies? I didnt mind in LOTR, and I didn't mind sitting that long back then in a theater. This is just a super hero movie.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(04-27-2019 12:27 AM)kbell Wrote:  

The movie looks like its super long. What happened to 2 hour movies? I didnt mind in LOTR, and I didn't mind sitting that long back then in a theater. This is just a super hero movie.

Gandalf is a superhero too.

[Transsimian]

(04-26-2019 08:11 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

It may seem a misallocation to give what was originally a minor character that much screentime in the MCU finale but damn, she made the most of it. And has anyone really seen what this woman looks like outside of makeup? Or her natural accent? She's got acting chops and I'm going to have to start following her more closely, although Jumanji 3 won't win her any awards.

Here's her using her real accent in Doctor Who

As for Larsen, it's normal in Asia for female-oriented shows to use relatively average looking woman for the lead, to help the average viewer associate with her better. Maybe its a similar thing. She's in no way ugly, you wouldn't lose respect for a friend if he had a girlfriend who looked like her.

(04-26-2019 04:30 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

Saw recently Shazam (not giving them cash, but whatever) and it was in one way a fun movie, but in other ways a propaganda fest. Plus they picked the stupid angsty teen version of Shazam that was highly unpopular. Similar to Superman, who should have been a character of light and goodness - he was depicted as this young delinquest who occasionally does good and for some insane reason refuses the enticements of the dark side. But stealing and robbing cops is fine? The real popular Shazam should have been an innocent kid - his purity being the reason for his selection. It's a different kind of humor to build off that, but can be done - more in the version of BIG.

The amount of anti-White messaging, full on diversity pushing is insane. Plus they behead a statue of a founding father with a cowboy head in one scene. They literally change the entire story to push in Burger King foster children into the movie giving them all superpowers. And they really had to make his mom the evil woman who just up and left her kid. Seriously - all the bad guys are instantly White and the old wizard is Aboriginal for some strange reason. And that is a "good" superhero movie. Things will continue to get worse and worse until the West collapses and no one gives a shit anymore.

I watched Shazam last week and enjoyed it.
There's a difference between the villain being white, and the villain being a villain because he was white. They spent a lot of time building up what made Silvana bad, and he was in many ways a sympathetic victim of his circumstances(and demonic possession). The wizard Shazam was shown as fundamentally flawed with his near impossible standards of purity been shown to hurt thousands of children. Billy's mother showed she had a decent reason for abandoning him, and her inclusion was more to show Billy the futility of chasing mirages instead of making the most of what you have.

I didn't really like young Billy's actor, but the chemistry between Zach Levi and the disabled stepbrother worked very well. I saw no problem with the family getting powers, diversity is only a problem for me if it defines me as a problem.

[infowarrior1]

How Human Sacrifice has returned and how Marvel Movies on Thanos promote it:

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-27-2019 05:22 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

I watched Shazam last week and enjoyed it.
There's a difference between the villain being white, and the villain being a villain because he was white. They spent a lot of time building up what made Silvana bad, and he was in many ways a sympathetic victim of his circumstances(and demonic possession). The wizard Shazam was shown as fundamentally flawed with his near impossible standards of purity been shown to hurt thousands of children. Billy's mother showed she had a decent reason for abandoning him, and her inclusion was more to show Billy the futility of chasing mirages instead of making the most of what you have.

I didn't really like young Billy's actor, but the chemistry between Zach Levi and the disabled stepbrother worked very well. I saw no problem with the family getting powers, diversity is only a problem for me if it defines me as a problem.

Please - the school bullies were only White. The robbers were White. The mom had no good reason to do what she did - just abandoning the kid like that. In the comics he was an orphan - as in real orphan. Why change the story? Because again to show how evil Whites are as they are the chief bullies and the criminals.

I did not mean the villain, because he was who he was.

Why would they change the Shazam powers into this burger king's group? Oh - and nice touch of changing the cute dark-skinned girl into a light-skinned grown-up version of herself. Even black nerds criticize this trend of changing heroes like Ororo - Storm - into mixed light-skinned black girls. Those girls pop out more coming straight from the dark continent - complete with white dreadlocks - that looks super-cool, but for some reason they are always picking other actresses.

The movie turned out later to be a cheap TV series when the other kids got powered up for some strange reason.

They literally had to change the entire plot, so to put in their indoctrination. Ah - and nice touch to behead the statue of a founding father in one scene - as subtle as the Last Jedi.

And I don't mind the actors - they were all likeable and fine. DC is as rotten as Marvel - remember how they showed the most important issue with European violence depicting Skinheads who terrorize obedient Muslim shopowners in Paris. They did this in BatmanvSuperman in the beginning.

But whatever - Shazam had good moments and likeable actors. It's similar to Superman where it wasn't a terrible or even bad movie - even the cast was fine. But they chose shitty versions of the heroes and here had to twist the entire plot around their propaganda points. Claiming that those points were not picked deliberately is just too much. The writers ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! Just as they pull back the progressive push in big movies like AVENGERS. They know that those things are dumb, limit the market and cripple the story, so they give you the least in those movies.

[Richard Turpin]

Delete (fucking phone!)

[Richard Turpin]

Just got back from seeing Endgame. Disappointing. Like all Marvel films it's peppered with good bits and no shortage of comedy so you feel entertained despite nothing really happening.

SPOILERS

It's slow and dialogue-heavy. And there's not a lot of action, believe it or not! They could have trimmed it right down.

I hoped that they'd let The Hulk off the leash properly at last for the last one, but no, once again they use their best fighter for his brains. He doesn't even swing a punch or feature at all in the shit climactic battle.

Thor is now a fat, alcoholic cry-baby and remains so throughout.

Why does Dr Strange and his magician friends with all their magical powers do nothing else but create spinning discs of energy?! It's literally all he ever fucking does.

Thanos steals every scene he's in just like last time. Though they've attempted to make him less sympathetic than in the last one.

Paltrow (who's now Iron Man by the way) has smashed right through the wall hitting every brick in the process. And she must have dragged Johansen right along with her.

Yeah, Capt Marvel was pointless and ridiculous.

They just undid everything in the last one magically. This is bad news for re-watching the last one as it now makes a decent movie kinda redundant.

It's loaded with sjw content although most will miss it.

I'm guessing my teen son is the target audience here, but he thought it was poor.

[CynicalContrarian]

^
If they don't incorporate the X-Men well, into the MCU.
The MCU is done for.

Even then. Without being able to see RDJ Iron Man verbally spar with Hugh Jackman's Logan or without being able to see OG Captain America have to deal with Deadpool.
It won't even necessarily be as great as it could have been.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< While I like the brainy Hulk, the unlimited raw Hulk versions would have been better suited for the movie. But they could not go that way, because destroying males is all they are about. They could have done the story where Hulk reached into less-controllable, but stronger versions of the Hulk, after the defeat of Thanos being teleported or subdued by the great sorceror for everyone's safety.

But again - they simply cannot have this plot point, because the destruction of males must be a given - toxic masculinity and whatnot.

And I heard that the Nebula character is the focal point of the new movies now - thus given so much screentime - possibly that they shifted from Captain Marvel after her lackluster reception and the actress being an overall cunt.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

If the movie really ends by reversing the snap and reviving everyone, then it truly sucks. What's the point of a story where lots of things happen to no effect and nothing changes at all? Similar to that lame ending of Captain America 3: Civil War where the entire movie was about putting the renegades behind bars, yet they were all miraculously freed during the last seconds of the movie. Complete bullshit.

A good ending would be hunting down Thanos and making him pay, but also finding out that the effects of the snap cannot be reversed and you have to admit that your friends are gone forever. A bittersweet, meaningful end to the saga.

A perfect ending would be hunting down Thanos and making him pay, finding out that the effects of the snap cannot be reversed and you have to admit that your friends are gone forever, and then one of the Avengers starting to wonder if this depopulation could have been a good thing for the universe after all, slowly going mad and turning into the next supervillain. A bittersweet, meaningful end to the saga that sets up the beginning of a new one.

Disney, you can send my $10,000,000.00/yr lead screenwriter contract by DHL. Thank you.

[kbell]

I think tolkien books are much written than comic movies and no SJW shit. I don't remember the Hobbit the movie, but I liked the book. Also it LOTR used practical effects with some of the best artist at the time and i think it still holds up well. Id love to see practical effects in movies more and even stop motion animation for giant creatures. Its such a unworldly movement.

[infowarrior1]

(04-27-2019 10:20 AM)kbell Wrote:  

I think tolkien books are much written than comic movies and no SJW shit. I don't remember the Hobbit the movie, but I liked the book. Also it LOTR used practical effects with some of the best artist at the time and i think it still holds up well. Id love to see practical effects in movies more and even stop motion animation for giant creatures. Its such a unworldly movement.

In fact the LOTR movies seem much more real than the more recent movies. Which feels fake and plastic.

[MrLemon]

(04-27-2019 09:56 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

If the movie really ends by reversing the snap and reviving everyone, then it truly sucks. What's the point of a story where lots of things happen to no effect and nothing changes at all? Similar to that lame ending of Captain America 3: Civil War where the entire movie was about putting the renegades behind bars, yet they were all miraculously freed during the last seconds of the movie. Complete bullshit.

A good ending would be hunting down Thanos and making him pay, but also finding out that the effects of the snap cannot be reversed and you have to admit that your friends are gone forever. A bittersweet, meaningful end to the saga.

A perfect ending would be hunting down Thanos and making him pay, finding out that the effects of the snap cannot be reversed and you have to admit that your friends are gone forever, and then one of the Avengers starting to wonder if this depopulation could have been a good thing for the universe after all, slowly going mad and turning into the next supervillain. A bittersweet, meaningful end to the saga that sets up the beginning of a new one.

Disney, you can send my $10,000,000.00/yr lead screenwriter contract by DHL. Thank you.

You are right... but this would require us to live in an alternate reality, in which Disney Corporation is *not* a galactically greedy money vacuum which would sell Walt Disney's bones to pad their short-term executive bonuses by a nickel.

[Transsimian]

(04-27-2019 08:41 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(04-27-2019 05:22 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

I watched Shazam last week and enjoyed it.
There's a difference between the villain being white, and the villain being a villain because he was white. They spent a lot of time building up what made Silvana bad, and he was in many ways a sympathetic victim of his circumstances(and demonic possession). The wizard Shazam was shown as fundamentally flawed with his near impossible standards of purity been shown to hurt thousands of children. Billy's mother showed she had a decent reason for abandoning him, and her inclusion was more to show Billy the futility of chasing mirages instead of making the most of what you have.

I didn't really like young Billy's actor, but the chemistry between Zach Levi and the disabled stepbrother worked very well. I saw no problem with the family getting powers, diversity is only a problem for me if it defines me as a problem.

Please - the school bullies were only White. The robbers were White. The mom had no good reason to do what she did - just abandoning the kid like that. In the comics he was an orphan - as in real orphan. Why change the story? Because again to show how evil Whites are as they are the chief bullies and the criminals.

I did not mean the villain, because he was who he was.

Why would they change the Shazam powers into this burger king's group? Oh - and nice touch of changing the cute dark-skinned girl into a light-skinned grown-up version of herself. Even black nerds criticize this trend of changing heroes like Ororo - Storm - into mixed light-skinned black girls. Those girls pop out more coming straight from the dark continent - complete with white dreadlocks - that looks super-cool, but for some reason they are always picking other actresses.

The movie turned out later to be a cheap TV series when the other kids got powered up for some strange reason.

They literally had to change the entire plot, so to put in their indoctrination. Ah - and nice touch to behead the statue of a founding father in one scene - as subtle as the Last Jedi.

And I don't mind the actors - they were all likeable and fine. DC is as rotten as Marvel - remember how they showed the most important issue with European violence depicting Skinheads who terrorize obedient Muslim shopowners in Paris. They did this in BatmanvSuperman in the beginning.

But whatever - Shazam had good moments and likeable actors. It's similar to Superman where it wasn't a terrible or even bad movie - even the cast was fine. But they chose shitty versions of the heroes and here had to twist the entire plot around their propaganda points. Claiming that those points were not picked deliberately is just too much. The writers ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! Just as they pull back the progressive push in big movies like AVENGERS. They know that those things are dumb, limit the market and cripple the story, so they give you the least in those movies.

Okay, I give you the bullies, though white bullies at an almost entirely white school aren't unheard of.

The race of the robbers wasn't highlighted, if someone hates "white" people just because they see this guy, it wasn't the film's fault
I give you the mugger scene though, but the awkwardness was hillarious.

The mother was a scared teenager, who thought she was giving him a better future. If you want propaganda, it was kinda implied her present day husband was controlling, but we live in a male blaming culture unfortunately.

I'm not familiar with the history of Philadelphia, so I am unaware of who the founding father was. Most of the damage was done by the villains anyway.

I liked the Marvel family scene, the film was all about Billy discovering that it doesn't have to be him against the world, and to accept the help and love of others. Empowering his 'family' to help him makes a satisfying conclusion to this thread.
(Though I think it could have been a cynical attempt to market action figures to young black girls too)

[Captainstabbin]

(04-28-2019 09:23 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

I liked the Marvel family scene, the film was all about Billy discovering that it doesn't have to be him against the world, and to accept the help and love of others. Empowering his 'family' to help him makes a satisfying conclusion to this thread.
(Though I think it could have been a cynical attempt to market action figures to young black girls too)

I like the Marvel Family stuff too, to a point. It's one of the few story elements they pulled directly from the comics and mirrored in the Black Adam story - although, in the comics, the family has all of Shazam's powers just to a much lesser degree.

Why is Billy a brooding, serious kid and the older, mature Shazam (with the wisdom of Solomon) a goofy man-child doing the floss dance? Didn't make sense.

Also, to get the thread back on track, Endgame made over $1.2 billion so far and Captain Marvel is over $1.1 billion.

[Rorogue]

I know nothing about Marvel but I assume this twitter 'story' is talking about this.

What the hell does this headline even mean?

A feminized society- one where meritocracy goes out the window, one of no passion or purpose, where people are conditioned not to be the best they can be and compete, but to instead act as weak as possible to attract attention and sympathy.

A feminized society is a sterile, shallow, pathetic one

[Zevs]

I have not been to a cinema to watch a movie for over a decade.
Never will I give my money to Hollywood or any celebrity. I had pay TV and Netflix when they first were released but not anymore, it' been 20 years for pay TV and nearly a decade for Netflix. I am not interested in comic book stories, and actors who dress up like clowns that use plastic looking weapons that destroy cities.
If I want to see a movie I'll download it, but that is unlikely cause most movies, that are released today are shit. It seems that, most here still have not taken the red pill.
Burn Hollywood burn, burn Tinseltown town down to the ground.

[godfather dust]

Zevs I'm with you. I don't give money to Hollywood rapists and pedophiles anymore, haven't in a few years.

[Richard Turpin]

Since seeing Endgame, I've read a lot of online discussions on Reddit, Facebook etc. and have spoken to a few people who've seen it and it looks like I'm incredibly out of touch with the public mood on this one. The fanboys/girls overwhelmingly love it and so do the normies (who don't know their Thanos from their Dormammu).

The love seems to be genuine and I don't think it's going to suffer too much from a steadily worsening sober re-appraisal the way The Last Jedi did. Fair enough, I'm pleased they enjoyed it.

I still think this movie gets worse for me the more I think about it. And this is without any of the sjw stuff that rvf-ers will be tuned into. There is a lot wrong with the movie otherwise as I've mentioned in my earlier post.

Even as I'm typing this (SPOILERS AHEAD), I've just realised something else! To earn the Soul stone either Hawkeye or Black Widow had to sacrifice someone they loved. They fought over it and both tried to kill themselves to save the other. In the end Black Widow 'won' and killed herself. So Hawkeye didn't actually willingly sacrifice anyone to get the stone!

Anyway, I reckon most people are going to enjoy the movie so don't let me put you off.

[CynicalContrarian]

^
Something I also realized.
It could well be that a death simply needs to occur on that alter.
Yet it was billed at first as having to sacrifice a loved one in IW.
Now?
All that's required is a convenient death it seems...

Not to mention. Noting the difficulty other basic mortals have had when touching Infinity Stones.
I take it all you need to touch the Soul Stone is a leather / synthetic glove & you're good to go, even when basic human...

Or how about Thanos arriving in 2019 with his whole ship?
Could Thanos & crew reverse engineer Pym particles to allow more than Evil-Nebula to go to 2019?
Probably. Yet it is neither shown nor told in Endgame.

Why was Wasp there at the final battle? Essentially none of the Avengers, nor Doctor Strange, had any real reason to know about Wasp.

Just more examples of how the three hour movie is rather rushed...


Plus, there is now a time-line where Loki disappeared. Altering everything from Thor: Dark World onwards.
Along with a time-line where Thanos vanished & never collected any Stones & never caused 'The Snap'.

[TigerMandingo]

Anyone catch that subtle moment when old white man Captain America passes on the torch to a young black guy?

[Zevs]

(04-28-2019 11:50 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Zevs I'm with you. I don't give money to Hollywood rapists and pedophiles anymore, haven't in a few years.

The rest seem to be enamored by bullshit characters and plastic toys.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-29-2019 05:46 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Anyone catch that subtle moment when old white man Captain America passes on the torch to a young black guy?

Despite the dramas with falling comic sales due to the SJW / Tumblr writers.
Seems the MCU films are going to rapidly head in that direction.
I can imagine by the time the X-Men are brought back, the whole 'diversity' thing will be so heavy handed, as to make the crappier X-Men films of the past seem half decent...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-29-2019 05:46 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Anyone catch that subtle moment when old white man Captain America passes on the torch to a young black guy?

There is more.
They tore down Thor because the strong male characters are set to be taken out. They did the same with Hulk.

Remember that they want to put the diverse characters now. So there will be a black Captain America from the comics and this did not make much sense since Falcon is an elite soldier, but hasn't had the same massive augmentations of Cap.

Hawkeye will be taken over by his daughter.

Black Widow is too sexy for the feminazi world.

They already fired Mark Ruffallo and a female much stronger Hulk will take over from here.

Thor will be seen as unworthy and be replaced by a female Thor because suddenly the hammer is everything.

Then you will get Squirrel Girl and Muslim Ms Marvel with the disgusting powers.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Gonna be a lot of sold-out screenings accompanying a lot of empty cinemas.

Endgame put a great big period on the franchise. If their agenda is to feminise and faggotise the franchise then they fucked up by not integrating these new characters as an ongoing process.

A lot of people are just going to tune out of the new shit. ZFG from the elites on a financial level, but it seems like public acceptance of the actual degeneracy itself has peaked. Regular people might go to these films for something to do but they're not going to emotionally invest in the propaganda being pushed.