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Mayweather vs. Ortiz
#26

Mayweather vs. Ortiz

Here are my official thoughts on The Fight:

Floyd Mayweather Knocks Out Victor Ortiz in The Fourth

http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/09/flo...ourth.html
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#27

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Quote: (09-15-2011 08:17 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  

Mayweather vs. The Pacman is big.

not sure bout dis one......

+1

I know pacman will win. But I always enjoy his fights. I think he's the best boxer out there right now.
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#28

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Boxing is about as real as NASCAR or the WWE. If anyone believes it's real then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you for real cheap. It's populated by lesbian eskimos too, which I'll throw in for free. [Image: dodgy.gif]
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#29

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I love Floyd Money (haters gonna hate); if game was a person it'd be him, Berlusconi or George Clooney, I can't decide. Not since Ali have I been so entertained by the way a fighter carries himself out of the ring (yes, including Mike Tyson). You know he keeps a private jet.

There was really nothing dirty about that KO; you touch gloves and the fight's on; hit or be hit. Maybe next time (because there will be a Mayweather-Ortiz II) Ortiz doesn't pull a Golota and fights clean, and then keeps his head up. I think Pacquiao would work him, but that fight is probably years off if it even happens.

Larry Merchant knows the game, but for some reason he just bugs me.
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#30

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"Boxing is about as real as NASCAR or the WWE. "

Explain.
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#31

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Ortiz's inexperience showed. He got frustrated, he started headbutting, he lost focus. He committed the cardinal sin of boxing, he left himself wide open. The referee didn't call time out.

The clock was ticking, no one stopped the round. He left his hands down by his side because he wanted to take a timeout. Boxing doesn't work like that. You don't get to call a timeout or take a break when you want to. Only the ref can call timeout.

What he should have done is pretended to give him a hug and then just as he was about to hug him, punch him instead. Or hug him, and then just after the hug, punch him. That would have been better then that stupid move that he did.

I'm watching an NFL football game right now. The defense just got penalized for having to many men on the field. The quarterback for the offense noticed this, and quickly snapped the ball. He didn't wait for the extra defender to get off the field. He snapped the ball and penalized the team for their mistake. Its not a cheap shot. Its part of the Game. That quarterback knows that his life depends on the Game. Millions of dollars, fame and celebrity, all riding on the outcome of a few games.

Last month I was watching a baseball game. There was a close play at the plate. The catcher didn't have the ball but he was standing right in front of the plate as a runner was charging home. The runner was going full speed towards home plate, the catcher was standing there not even looking. The runner ran right through him, broke his leg.

Remember last year in the NBA playoffs, Jason Kidd was dribbling down court. The coach for the other team stepped onto the court, just a few inches. Jason Kidd ran the guy over. Technical foul on the coach for being on the court.

Thats the Game. Again, there are millions of dollars on the line. Celebrity status, endorsements, contracts, Victoria's Secret models, etc.

Maybe Ortiz missed this post by Tuthmosis:

Quote: (09-16-2011 12:05 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

The only problem comes when you run into a guy like me--especially one without my moral rectitude--who:

1. Dances salsa better than you and has game.

2. Will come over, nicely, and ask to "borrow" your girl for a "quick dance." (You can't say no, because it will make you seem possessive and controlling to the girl--a definite no-no on a first date.)

3. Will dance with her and show off some smoothness and skill, while spitting some preliminary game at her. She'll laugh a few times and get a "feel" for me.

4. Finish the dance and politely let her go back to you. "Thanks. I'll see you around the dance floor."

5. Spot her alone later--because I have phenomenal "club vision"--when you go to the bathroom or are waiting in a massive crowd of people to get drinks at the bar.

6. Pick up where I left off in my game and get her number. (Surreptitiously, of course. If she says "I'm with a guy," I can say something like, "oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had a boyfriend," which will put her on the defensive and more likely to lower your status in her head.)

7. Text her a couple of days later.

8. Steal.

9. Bang her.

10. Bring her to that same salsa spot.

It's the circle of life, player.

This is why I don't bring a girl dancing or clubbing until I've banged her. Too many thirsty dudes on the prowl. They don't give a fuck about you. They want your girl.
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#32

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Ortiz throws a cheat head butt and then tries acting like a sportsman?

GTFO here with that bullshit.

Larry Merchant has hated on Mayweather for years. Fuck that old bastard and his, "If I were 50 years longer" nonsense. Merchant at his best was never Mayweather at his worst.
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#33

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Quote: (09-18-2011 04:40 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Boxing is about as real as NASCAR or the WWE. If anyone believes it's real then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you for real cheap. It's populated by lesbian eskimos too, which I'll throw in for free. [Image: dodgy.gif]




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Quote: (09-18-2011 04:48 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"Boxing is about as real as NASCAR or the WWE. "

Explain.

The elite don't gamble huge amounts of money on chance. If so they'd be poor. They are rich and get richer for a reason. It's not a team sport. Any boxer can take a fall, and no one would be the wiser. The real money isn't on the actual bout, but what goes through the bookies.

NASCAR is about sponsorship. Most die hard fans I know will admit it's rigged now.
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#35

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"It's not a team sport. Any boxer can take a fall, and no one would be the wiser."

So tennis is fake too?

Chess?

MMA?

Surfing?

And team sports are immune to corruption?

I think the word "fake" is incorrect.

If you said "corrupt" then I would agree with you.

Then the question could be asked, "what is not corrupt?"
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#36

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Quote: (09-18-2011 05:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"It's not a team sport. Any boxer can take a fall, and no one would be the wiser."

So tennis is fake too?

Chess?

MMA?

Surfing?

And team sports are immune to corruption?

I think the word "fake" is incorrect.

If you said "corrupt" then I would agree with you.

Then the question could be asked, "what is not corrupt?"

Yep. Corrupt is the proper term.
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#37

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I enjoyed the fight and the KO was certainly entertaining, as well as the post fight interviews with Merchant (lol). However, this fight did illustrate why I don't follow boxing that closely. I just kind of laughed at it all. Silly is the prevailing feeling about this fight (imho)

A lot of hype over just a few minutes of actual fighting. It seemed to me that Vegas wanted Mayweather v Pacquiao and this was just another build up to that fight, which should prove to be the most over-hyped sporting event of the decade, if not our lives.

However, it was good entertainment.
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#38

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"A lot of hype over just a few minutes of actual fighting"

That's Boxing.

The Kentucky Derby is two minutes long.

I would rather have that than watch a game for 3 hours.

It's all about efficiency.
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#39

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Quote: (09-18-2011 09:06 PM)raliv Wrote:  

A lot of hype over just a few minutes of actual fucking.

It's often the boring anticipation that makes the reward s fulfilling.
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Quote: (09-18-2011 11:13 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (09-18-2011 09:06 PM)raliv Wrote:  

A lot of hype over just a few minutes of actual fucking.

It's often the boring anticipation that makes the reward s fulfilling.

[Image: icon_razz.gif] good point and well made.
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#41

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Quote: (09-18-2011 05:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"It's not a team sport. Any boxer can take a fall, and no one would be the wiser."

So tennis is fake too?

Chess?

MMA?

Surfing?

And team sports are immune to corruption?

I think the word "fake" is incorrect.

If you said "corrupt" then I would agree with you.

Then the question could be asked, "what is not corrupt?"

Anything corrupt is therefore by virtue, fake, since it's not allowed to take its natural course. If there are people who have big money riding on an event's outcome, they will manipulate the components involved to ensure that the outcome is in their favour.

In that sense, it is fake because being fake is portrayed to be something one is not (which in this sense, boxing is meant to be about the best boxers winning, which apparently it is not).

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#42

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From the minute I saw Mayweather put his hands around the neck of Ortiz during the weigh-in, I assumed the fix was in. He didn't even flinch and smiled thru the entire thing. Lots of pre/post fight hugging and pecking as well. Promoters make fights what they are, not styles.
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#43

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Moma -

"it is fake because being fake is portrayed to be something one is not (which in this sense, boxing is meant to be about the best boxers winning, which apparently it is not)."

So in this case it wasn't "fake" since Mayweather won and he is the better boxer?

Pusscrook -

"I assumed the fix was in."

You think the fight was "fixed", as in, there was a pre-determined outcome?
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Quote: (09-20-2011 02:07 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Moma -

"it is fake because being fake is portrayed to be something one is not (which in this sense, boxing is meant to be about the best boxers winning, which apparently it is not)."

So in this case it wasn't "fake" since Mayweather won and he is the better boxer?

Pusscrook -

"I assumed the fix was in."

You think the fight was "fixed", as in, there was a pre-determined outcome?

Firstly, I didn't watch the fight so I have no idea what happened. I am just clarifying how fake and corrupt share the same bed.

Secondly, I enjoy watching boxing (so my opinion is not unfavourably biased). I actually enjoyed watching the boxing clips on your site (tactics were duly appreciated).

However, with the advent of big money, anything is possible. Is Mayweather the better boxer? I haven't watched enough to say so but everyone says he is.
Did he win because he is a better boxer?
Sure, why not.

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#45

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Hey G Manifesto, just read that Toney is going to fight Lebedev in Moscow. Your thoughts?
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#46

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Quote: (09-20-2011 02:07 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Moma -

"it is fake because being fake is portrayed to be something one is not (which in this sense, boxing is meant to be about the best boxers winning, which apparently it is not)."

So in this case it wasn't "fake" since Mayweather won and he is the better boxer?

Pusscrook -

"I assumed the fix was in."

You think the fight was "fixed", as in, there was a pre-determined outcome?

G, you know this is not unheard of especially in the sport of boxing. I don't have any proof of it, but goodness, I've never seen a boxer get a hand put around his throat, and yet he smiles? It's not like pandemonium broke loose when he was choking him. It is obvious, that Mayweather, was the better fighter ,but I don't think Golden Boy(Oscar) , Bob Arum, and Ellerbe had any intentions of letting Ortiz win that fight and jeopardize the biggest day in the history of boxing. How do you see it?
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