[Rutting Elephant]

(08-21-2017 01:36 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

I wonder if/how you can actually exploit this without necessarily having a big budget of your own or actually doing a TV series/movie.

Entertaining Japanese novella (and film) based on this very premise.
Unfortunately, the main candidate for the casting couch turns out to be a psychopath. (Not a spoiler because look at the promotional material for both versions.)

   

[Easy_C]

Good luck.

The problem is that most agents will also be good at screening you before hand....and you are misunderstanding why women do that.

It isn't necessarily because they're attracted, but because women are viciously competitive for fame. If you have fame to offer then whoring themselves out to you is a small price to pay to get that fame.

Unless you actually can make them famous the plan won't work.

[goodington]

What would you do in his shoes? You're married to a (presumably) good woman; the mother of your children. Would you say no to young pussy if it was offered up on a plate? Would you cheat? Would you break up your family to maintain your integrity? I've seen many comments on this board that polygyny is natural, but I don't know any wives who would agree.

Obviously Whedon himself is a gamma loser, but these are still not easy questions.

[Paracelsus]

(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)goodington Wrote:  

What would you do in his shoes? You're married to a (presumably) good woman; the mother of your children. Would you say no to young pussy if it was offered up on a plate? Would you cheat? Would you break up your family to maintain your integrity?

If you do break up your family to "maintain your integrity", you are basically asserting that your identity is not, and never has been, as a family man. Or put it another way: how do you think your good wife would react to the suggestion that in order to "be true to yourself" you have to go fuck an 18 year old?

Or put it another way, if that isn't getting through to you that your wife is another real, living, breathing person with desires and an existence as valid as yours: if your wife said to you that in order to "be true to herself" she had to go bang Boris the Pool Boy, would you honestly accept that? And if not, how come the rules apply to her but not to you?

The problem with the "integrity" assertion is your deliberate, willed actions for years before then. Saying you're breaking up with someone to "maintain your integrity" is essentially making the excuse that "I'm not a bad person, I just do bad things now and then."

No, you are a bad person, as evidenced by what you choose to do. In this case, capriciously put your own, declining sexual capacity above that of the emotions and mental health of two or three other human beings who you, on purpose, allowed to love you. At least one of those human beings is not a fully formed personality and will not be able to understand your decision -- ever. And by breaking up your family you will go a long way towards perpetuating the same cycle of shit that has been consuming the West more or less since no-fault divorce was invented.

Rationalise or justify it any way you see fit, but at least have the courage to call it a rationalisation or a justification for an act that is wrong to the other two or three people in your family. You might then start to realise that your actions have a blast radius.

Don't try to turn it into a sort of unwilled act by saying you're "maintaining your integrity", trying to assert that this shit is anything other than a deliberate, conscious act on your part and entirely optional. Like Rocky said, women do that, and that ain't you.

To riff off what AB said on a previous page: do what you will, nobody is going to judge you, especially these days, but don't pretend like you didn't choose.

Indeed, if you are in fact put in this position, somewhere in the midst of your dick swelling to fill your Chinos, you might perhaps spare yourself this fleeting thought, the thought that Joss Whedon has repeatedly had but from which he never learned the lesson:

What sort of a man am I, that I attract young women willing to sleep with a married man?

If the Three Card Monty guy on the street calls you over to try your luck, you might as well hand him your money before you even pick up a card ... because, being a results-oriented kind of guy, having seen a lot of people, gullible and not, he chose you. He saw something in you immediately recognisable that says you can be tricked. By virtue of him choosing you, he is teaching you something very important you need to understand about yourself. So it goes with women, particularly of the variety that will sleep with married men. They choose you because they see something in you, and it may not be what you'd like it to be.

[questor70]

(08-22-2017 10:07 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

If you do break up your family to "maintain your integrity", you are basically asserting that your identity is not...

...by breaking up your family you will go a long way towards perpetuating the same cycle of shit that has been consuming the West more or less since no-fault divorce was invented.

You're making some sweeping generalizations here.

Divorce happens, and happens for very good reasons. It's not just a case of people selfishly following their whims. As a guy in my 40s I have gone out with divorced single women and without fail they tell me stories of how they stuck it out for YEARS living in misery, sometimes tolerating abusive situations..."for the kids". One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren. So sure, there are cases where men and women bail on marriages way too easily, but there are also cases where they overvalue the institution of marriage to the point where the home environment is more toxic than if they had just separated.

I myself wound up in a shotgun marriage and I only managed to hold it together for about three years before I had to bail just to protect my sanity. Martyring yourself for the kids sounds noble in theory, but kids are NOT served well if their parents are together in name only while living in total misery. Divorce with kids is about picking the lesser of two evils.

We're talking about the abstract here, of course. I don't know what the quality of Whedon's marriage was. If they had a great marriage that was firing on all cylinders and he just lusted after strange pussy then the path of least resistance would be to wank off to porn now and then. He didn't have to act on his impulses.

[Sumanguru]

(08-22-2017 10:07 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)goodington Wrote:  

What would you do in his shoes? You're married to a (presumably) good woman; the mother of your children. Would you say no to young pussy if it was offered up on a plate? Would you cheat? Would you break up your family to maintain your integrity?

If you do break up your family to "maintain your integrity", you are basically asserting that your identity is not, and never has been, as a family man. Or put it another way: how do you think your good wife would react to the suggestion that in order to "be true to yourself" you have to go fuck an 18 year old?

Or put it another way, if that isn't getting through to you that your wife is another real, living, breathing person with desires and an existence as valid as yours: if your wife said to you that in order to "be true to herself" she had to go bang Boris the Pool Boy, would you honestly accept that? And if not, how come the rules apply to her but not to you?

The problem with the "integrity" assertion is your deliberate, willed actions for years before then. Saying you're breaking up with someone to "maintain your integrity" is essentially making the excuse that "I'm not a bad person, I just do bad things now and then."

No, you are a bad person, as evidenced by what you choose to do. In this case, capriciously put your own, declining sexual capacity above that of the emotions and mental health of two or three other human beings who you, on purpose, allowed to love you. At least one of those human beings is not a fully formed personality and will not be able to understand your decision -- ever. And by breaking up your family you will go a long way towards perpetuating the same cycle of shit that has been consuming the West more or less since no-fault divorce was invented.

Rationalise or justify it any way you see fit, but at least have the courage to call it a rationalisation or a justification for an act that is wrong to the other two or three people in your family. You might then start to realise that your actions have a blast radius.

Don't try to turn it into a sort of unwilled act by saying you're "maintaining your integrity", trying to assert that this shit is anything other than a deliberate, conscious act on your part and entirely optional. Like Rocky said, women do that, and that ain't you.

To riff off what AB said on a previous page: do what you will, nobody is going to judge you, especially these days, but don't pretend like you didn't choose.

Indeed, if you are in fact put in this position, somewhere in the midst of your dick swelling to fill your Chinos, you might perhaps spare yourself this fleeting thought, the thought that Joss Whedon has repeatedly had but from which he never learned the lesson:

What sort of a man am I, that I attract young women willing to sleep with a married man?

If the Three Card Monty guy on the street calls you over to try your luck, you might as well hand him your money before you even pick up a card ... because, being a results-oriented kind of guy, having seen a lot of people, gullible and not, he chose you. He saw something in you immediately recognisable that says you can be tricked. By virtue of him choosing you, he is teaching you something very important you need to understand about yourself. So it goes with women, particularly of the variety that will sleep with married men. They choose you because they see something in you, and it may not be what you'd like it to be.

I miss the Last Psychiatrist, too.

To put it less elegantly, you're free to do as you will, but you *are* what you do, even if you *say* otherwise. Actions > Words.

Fucking avowed male feminist who doesn't mind destroying the lives of his wife and daughter, as long as he can get pussy and street cred for being so "progressive."

[Samseau]

Quote:

One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren.

And you believe these fairy tales? Until you get both sides of the story never believe anything.


As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

[C-Note]

(08-22-2017 11:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

Hugo Schwyzer

[Darkwing Buck]

(08-22-2017 11:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote:

One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren.

And you believe these fairy tales? Until you get both sides of the story never believe anything.


As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

Can confirm. My mom tried to say my dad was abusive after they divorced but he never once hurt her. He told her friends she was in "survivors" meetings every week because of the divorce but he never abused her. I know this for a fact. If anything my dad was a pushover. He rarely spoke and just liked to be left alone and slept on the couch every night in silence, went to work, and came home. He was a pretty quiet and docile dude. In retrospect he was TOO relaxed and reserved.

I was at home once and my mom was on the phone with my aunt saying she has no idea where my father is and that he must be out cheating on her with other women and that she never knows where he is or what he's doing. My dad was literally WORKING in the garage. He worked out of the garage at that time doing an eBay business I helped him with packaging and sending deliveries everyday. He was clearly working. In plain fucking sight. I could see his head outside the window.

Also she called the cops on him once and told them he hit her when all he did was slam his hand down on the table and get in her face. I got in between them at that point but she calmly told 911 that "my husband just hit me" and the police came and entered the house. I had to vouch for him that he didn't hit her.

Then again my mom is probably on the BPD or Bipolar scale as she has shown some huge signs of mood disorder and straight up manic depressive behavior and insane lies but it just goes to show women will tell blatant straight up lies.

When I saw this shit in high school was some of my early red pilling. I knew women and people were capable of lying but to straight up fabricate stories out of thin air like that I never thought my mom was capable of. I knew if she was capable of it, other women were too. I had never before seen a woman not only tell a blatant lie, but a lie with NO BASIS IN REALITY like that before. The most fucked up part about it all is I think she actually on some emotional level BELIEVED her own lies.

[goodington]

(08-22-2017 10:07 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)goodington Wrote:  

What would you do in his shoes? You're married to a (presumably) good woman; the mother of your children. Would you say no to young pussy if it was offered up on a plate? Would you cheat? Would you break up your family to maintain your integrity?

If you do break up your family to "maintain your integrity", you are basically asserting that your identity is not, and never has been, as a family man. Or put it another way: how do you think your good wife would react to the suggestion that in order to "be true to yourself" you have to go fuck an 18 year old?

Or put it another way, if that isn't getting through to you that your wife is another real, living, breathing person with desires and an existence as valid as yours: if your wife said to you that in order to "be true to herself" she had to go bang Boris the Pool Boy, would you honestly accept that? And if not, how come the rules apply to her but not to you?

The problem with the "integrity" assertion is your deliberate, willed actions for years before then. Saying you're breaking up with someone to "maintain your integrity" is essentially making the excuse that "I'm not a bad person, I just do bad things now and then."

No, you are a bad person, as evidenced by what you choose to do. In this case, capriciously put your own, declining sexual capacity above that of the emotions and mental health of two or three other human beings who you, on purpose, allowed to love you. At least one of those human beings is not a fully formed personality and will not be able to understand your decision -- ever. And by breaking up your family you will go a long way towards perpetuating the same cycle of shit that has been consuming the West more or less since no-fault divorce was invented.

Rationalise or justify it any way you see fit, but at least have the courage to call it a rationalisation or a justification for an act that is wrong to the other two or three people in your family. You might then start to realise that your actions have a blast radius.

Don't try to turn it into a sort of unwilled act by saying you're "maintaining your integrity", trying to assert that this shit is anything other than a deliberate, conscious act on your part and entirely optional. Like Rocky said, women do that, and that ain't you.

To riff off what AB said on a previous page: do what you will, nobody is going to judge you, especially these days, but don't pretend like you didn't choose.

Indeed, if you are in fact put in this position, somewhere in the midst of your dick swelling to fill your Chinos, you might perhaps spare yourself this fleeting thought, the thought that Joss Whedon has repeatedly had but from which he never learned the lesson:

What sort of a man am I, that I attract young women willing to sleep with a married man?

If the Three Card Monty guy on the street calls you over to try your luck, you might as well hand him your money before you even pick up a card ... because, being a results-oriented kind of guy, having seen a lot of people, gullible and not, he chose you. He saw something in you immediately recognisable that says you can be tricked. By virtue of him choosing you, he is teaching you something very important you need to understand about yourself. So it goes with women, particularly of the variety that will sleep with married men. They choose you because they see something in you, and it may not be what you'd like it to be.

In other words, a man should be shamed if he leaves his wife, and shamed if he secretly cheats on her. A good man will deny his biological imperative to seek strange pussy, because society says that's what he should do, and think of the children! Go jerk off to internet porn like everyone else does.

I think you underestimate how many women would sleep with a married man they find attractive, given the chance to do it without anyone finding out.

[Elster]

Well, if you sign the contract you would be expected to abide by it. We've seen in our own lifetimes what happens at a societal level when those old stuffy moral taboos are broken consistently.

On the biological aspect we are also adapted to take care of our offspring being the social primates that we are. At least the offspring that we choose to remain with, as it increases their possibility of growing into healthy adults who will carry on the genes.

[spokepoker]

(08-22-2017 12:36 PM)goodington Wrote:  

In other words, a man should be shamed if he leaves his wife, and shamed if he secretly cheats on her. A good man will deny his biological imperative to seek strange pussy, because society says that's what he should do, and think of the children! Go jerk off to internet porn like everyone else does.

I think you underestimate how many women would sleep with a married man they find attractive, given the chance to do it without anyone finding out.

I don't think you should use women as moral role models. It's kind of like saying the 8 year old hit his sister so it's ok to beat the wife.
How about people actually sticking to convictions? You know what marriage is about, abide by it, if you don't want to cheat, don't get married.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-22-2017 07:59 AM)goodington Wrote:  

What would you do in his shoes? You're married to a (presumably) good woman; the mother of your children. Would you say no to young pussy if it was offered up on a plate? Would you cheat? Would you break up your family to maintain your integrity? I've seen many comments on this board that polygyny is natural, but I don't know any wives who would agree.

Obviously Whedon himself is a gamma loser, but these are still not easy questions.

Its been alluded to earlier in this thread but I don't believe her "I didn't know" stance for a second.

I think its a widespread tacitly understood arrangement that when a guy is rich and famous he's going to get pussy thrown at him adn he's going to take it. The wife knows and as long as he doesn't rub it in her face (pun intended), maintains his end of the deal financially and socially then it's "dont ask / dont tell"

I get it. But she knew

She's got nothing to lose now that theyve split up and everything to gain: attention and sympathy

[Captainstabbin]

It wouldn't be as hard to resist the younger actresses if you had a traditional wife at home. I've worked in the industry, I still do some indie film FX work (you'd all goof on me about my IMDB credits), most of these girls are as skanky as Miley Cyrus. Most of them chain smoke and smell horrible - something that's a deal breaker for me. Most of them have STDs. Most of them spend all day just getting high in their trailer. When you're around them all day, it's easy to find them less attractive than just seeing them on screen.

(08-21-2017 01:36 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 12:20 AM)8ball Wrote:  

After a casting session for a one line female part on a shit series in a shit channel, you will get texts from all the girls asking if there is something extra they can do.

I wonder if/how you can actually exploit this without necessarily having a big budget of your own or actually doing a TV series/movie.

I was a flea speck on the ass end of the industry, yet even I had chicks wanting to "meet with me" solely for my connections. Girls know that they have to fuck their way through 20 or more peons just to meet anyone with power. You don't need a huge budget movie, literally anything will do. For me, the bigger the budget, the less likely I'd ever be on set.

Half of these chicks are insane too. Carrie Fisher would famously go up to random crew on the set of Star Wars and literally say, "Wanna go fuck?"

[AnonymousBosch]

(08-22-2017 10:50 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

As a guy in my 40s I have gone out with divorced single women and without fail they tell me stories of how they stuck it out for YEARS living in misery, sometimes tolerating abusive situations..."for the kids". One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren.

If you've ever overheard women talking, it doesn't matter how good and kind a man actually is to a woman: he always become an unfeeling monster when she speaks about him.

She's selling herself via Emotional Manipulation with an Appeal to the Pathetic aka becoming 'The Sad Crying Kitty Under A Tree In A Rainstorm'.

The question is: are you buying?

Paracelsus Wrote:

If the Three Card Monty guy on the street calls you over to try your luck, you might as well hand him your money before you even pick up a card ... because, being a results-oriented kind of guy, having seen a lot of people, gullible and not, he chose you. He saw something in you immediately recognisable that says you can be tricked. By virtue of him choosing you, he is teaching you something very important you need to understand about yourself. So it goes with women, particularly of the variety that will sleep with married men. They choose you because they see something in you, and it may not be what you'd like it to be.

Remember, these 40-something women chose their men.

I recently dug up an old 'answer' song I wrote I wrote to a hot-and-crazy musician ex who was singing a song about me with her hand where she presented herself as a Sad Crying Kitty. I never publicly-performed it because the other guys were shocked by how, well, coldly-indifferent it was, which was the entire point: I didn't personalise the response. It was sung as a form letter from all of her exes, saying "We are all exactly what you chose, and your act of consistently-choosing your own state of misery this suggests you're damaged, so look inwards first."

Of course, society never, ever holds women accountable for their own actions, so I could see that that song - and it was a great song - would never fly, and, well, even I understood that women are very emotionally-fragile and could never bear that level of self-knowledge about themselves, and it wasn't worth her using it as an excuse to make an over-dramatic suicide attempt.

In the end, I wrote a second, gentler song that was basically an agree and amplify. "Yes, I'll be the monster you need me to be, but, really, looking at me, what did you expect?" That one still made the other guys uncomfortable, so I let it be.

Now, let's be realistic here. She chose - note this word again - to write her song about me trying to continue a relationship between us: "See how much you've hurt me?" She's trying to keep the dialogue open.

All her song really did was confirm that I made the right choice by breaking up with her - I always found her wild emotional swings and drama queen nature tiresome - so I eventually realised the best course of action was no response whatsoever. Knock yourself out, toots. (As a famous character once said, once he finally realised that the constant emotional-whirlwind around the woman he loved wasn't cute and charming, but violently-destructive to everyone around her: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn).

So, she wrote a song of hysterical martyrdom to attempt to continue the relationship (dysfunctional action) which made her feared outcome come to pass: pushing me away completely (dysfunctional result).

They'll cut all their hair off, or gain weight, or come on to another man in front of you, or paint you as a monster just to prove how much you hurt them, thinking it will fire up your protective instincts to rescue them from themselves.

I can't be the only man who has had a fight with a woman only to see them deliberately go outside and sit on the ground in the pouring rain, so you see how much they're hurting.

The 'Sad Crying Kitty' thing isn't always figurative.

[Paracelsus]

(08-22-2017 12:36 PM)goodington Wrote:  

In other words, a man should be shamed if he leaves his wife, and shamed if he secretly cheats on her. A good man will deny his biological imperative to seek strange pussy, because society says that's what he should do, and think of the children! Go jerk off to internet porn like everyone else does.

(1) Narcissism says: I am special, I have an excuse -- I am not like everyone else.

(2) There are plenty of biological imperatives that people ignore in the course of living. Hunger, for example: if you want to get down to 3% body fat or whatever, you have to routinely ignore the biological imperative to eat ... or at least the biological imperative to eat certain types of food, and override the biological imperative not to overeat certain other types of food. And one might note the food industry and ad industry are very good at manipulating your biological imperative to eat. ... like the porn industry, and the ad industry are also very good at manipulating your biological imperative to fuck. To take another example, we have a biological imperative to avoid pain: it tells the body it's being damaged. Again, another biological imperative you have to override or ignore if you want to lift weights or get a muscular body.

However, the "biological imperative to fuck" argument is no different to the "maintain your integrity" argument: it is still attempting to get away from the conscious, deliberate decision you make when you have sex with another person.

(3) In our society, shaming a person into not cheating is rather like combating the cholesterol levels in a fat person: you are attacking the symptom, not the cause. Shame and guilt are very different things. It's perfectly possible to feel one without at all feeling the other. However, because we killed God and raised up the concept of Identity in his place, there isn't much guilt left in the West.

In the narcissist - women and men alike - the routine is generally to displace guilt by feeling shame instead, and then eliminating shame by having people on the Internet say "Yeah, I'd do that too in the same circumstances."

(08-22-2017 12:36 PM)goodington Wrote:  

I think you underestimate how many women would sleep with a married man they find attractive, given the chance to do it without anyone finding out.

Again, as AB said above, the relevant question is not what's on sale or how much of it there is available. The relevant question is: are you buying? Why are they selling to you? What is it about you that makes a woman think you'd be willing to fuck them, despite the fact you're wearing a wedding ring?

[odesseus]

(08-22-2017 11:51 AM)C-Note Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 11:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

Hugo Schwyzer

I was thinking the same thing - you could almost call these guys 'Alpha Male Feminists'. Their status and means is high enough to attract women at or above the level of very high status non-feminist men.

[Darkwing Buck]

(08-22-2017 08:24 PM)odesseus Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 11:51 AM)C-Note Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 11:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

As for Joss Whedon: he reminds me of that liberal male feminist professor from a few years back who would bang college girls on field trips. Anyone remember that guy's name? I love male feminist types, they are all hypocrites.

Hugo Schwyzer

I was thinking the same thing - you could almost call these guys 'Alpha Male Feminists'. Their status and means is high enough to attract women at or above the level of very high status non-feminist men.

There's no point labeling guys with such massive fame, money, and success. They're at a level of status they don't need game. Their status TRUMPS game at that point. They're on a whole other level and the same rules don't apply to them.

That's why I think it's silly to discuss celebrities when it comes to game discussions. They're on such a different playing field and playing by such different rules, it doesn't apply to the average man.

It's silly to try to label it or put them in a box when they're playing a totally different game.

[DarkTriad]

(08-21-2017 07:04 AM)Aurini Wrote:  



The chemistry is so bad in that last one that he looks gay. "No thank you, ma'am, I like dick."

Then again, it is Hollywood.

People forget that the casting couch applies to men as much as women. It's not random that Hollywood is full of questionable guys, it's a hundred times harder to make it if you don't suck dick. Hollywood is the most sophisticated gay grooming system ever invented.

[DarkTriad]

(08-22-2017 10:50 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(08-22-2017 10:07 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

If you do break up your family to "maintain your integrity", you are basically asserting that your identity is not...

...by breaking up your family you will go a long way towards perpetuating the same cycle of shit that has been consuming the West more or less since no-fault divorce was invented.

You're making some sweeping generalizations here.

Divorce happens, and happens for very good reasons. It's not just a case of people selfishly following their whims. As a guy in my 40s I have gone out with divorced single women and without fail they tell me stories of how they stuck it out for YEARS living in misery, sometimes tolerating abusive situations..."for the kids". One woman I went on a date with but chose not to enter into a relationship said she only divorced her husband after she was physically knocked on her ass in the presence of her chldren. So sure, there are cases where men and women bail on marriages way too easily, but there are also cases where they overvalue the institution of marriage to the point where the home environment is more toxic than if they had just separated.

I myself wound up in a shotgun marriage and I only managed to hold it together for about three years before I had to bail just to protect my sanity. Martyring yourself for the kids sounds noble in theory, but kids are NOT served well if their parents are together in name only while living in total misery. Divorce with kids is about picking the lesser of two evils.

We're talking about the abstract here, of course. I don't know what the quality of Whedon's marriage was. If they had a great marriage that was firing on all cylinders and he just lusted after strange pussy then the path of least resistance would be to wank off to porn now and then. He didn't have to act on his impulses.

They TOLD you they did for the kids or other unselfish reasons. How do you know this as 100% accurate? And how did civilization develop over thousands of years where MOST marriages were bigger stranger groupings than your own? What magical knowledge did women once posses that once allowed them to build happy marriages with almost any decent guy with good values they were assigned to?

[Paracelsus]

(08-22-2017 08:48 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 07:04 AM)Aurini Wrote:  



The chemistry is so bad in that last one that he looks gay. "No thank you, ma'am, I like dick."

Then again, it is Hollywood.

People forget that the casting couch applies to men as much as women. It's not random that Hollywood is full questionable guys, it's a hundred times harder to make it if you don't suck dick. Hollywood is the most sophisticated gay grooming system ever invented.

Fun trivia: David Boreanaz was married during his run on Buffy, 1997-1999. That marriage broke up. He got married again in 2001, though he was still doing cameos on Buffy until 2003. And when he got busted for cheating on his second wife, it was with Rachel Uchitel ... yep, that one, same one that was banging Tiger Woods. Small world.

I'd like to think Boreanaz's stance here is discomfort with his situation, but I'm probably wrong. Never mind that Boreanaz always looks like a guy in dire need of a good shit.

[AnonymousBosch]

(08-22-2017 08:48 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

People forget that the casting couch applies to men as much as women. It's not random that Hollywood is full questionable guys, it's a hundred times harder to make it if you don't suck dick. Hollywood is the most sophisticated gay grooming system ever invented.

I saw enough of it first hand to NOPE the fuck out of the 'bigger' acting career I was being promised, then, with some consideration, any further acting career.

It's the same rot that infects the music industry and gradually made me walk away from that, and most likely infects any creative pursuits. Look at current book publishing. It's a shame, but I've come to accept possessing a creative mind seems to place you in the company of degenerates, and, if you're great at something, you don't need the reassurance of an audience. It's only damaged minds that need... crave... approval.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-22-2017 08:56 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

They TOLD you they did for the kids or other unselfish reasons. How do you know this as 100% accurate? And how did civilization develop over thousands of years where MOST marriages were bigger stranger groupings than your own? What magical knowledge did women once posses that once allowed them to build happy marriages with almost any decent guy with good values they were assigned to?

Its called fear

[puckerman]

(08-22-2017 08:58 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Fun trivia: David Boreanaz was married during his run on Buffy, 1997-1999. That marriage broke up. He got married again in 2001, though he was still doing cameos on Buffy until 2003. And when he got busted for cheating on his second wife, it was with Rachel Uchitel ... yep, that one, same one that was banging Tiger Woods. Small world.

I'd like to think Boreanaz's stance here is discomfort with his situation, but I'm probably wrong. Never mind that Boreanaz always looks like a guy in dire need of a good shit.

He got his own show, Angel, which lasted until 2004. He also was on Bones for twelve seasons. He's done better than any other actor since leaving the Buffyverse.

I don't know if he had sex with other actresses. I am sure he had plenty of opportunities to have sex with female fans of both shows. These shows had very dedicated and passionate fan bases, and there is a small minority of women who become obsessed with the actors on the show. They were groupies.

No doubt, this was the only reason Joss kept the very useless Spike character around, even though he didn't have any good or plausible storylines. The airhead women loved James Marsters and loved Spike.



I don't know Joss fucked any of these fans, but it wouldn't be a surprise if he did.

I have also noticed that Joss always a character with a gender-bending name. On Buffy and Angel, it was a male character named Angel.



On Firefly, it was man named Jayne. The spelling was different, but it was still a guy.



On Angel, there was also a female character called Fred. It was short for Winifred.

[Captainstabbin]

(08-22-2017 08:58 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Fun trivia: David Boreanaz was married during his run on Buffy, 1997-1999. That marriage broke up. He got married again in 2001, though he was still doing cameos on Buffy until 2003. And when he got busted for cheating on his second wife, it was with Rachel Uchitel ... yep, that one, same one that was banging Tiger Woods. Small world.

I'd like to think Boreanaz's stance here is discomfort with his situation, but I'm probably wrong. Never mind that Boreanaz always looks like a guy in dire need of a good shit.

It's not just having the hot chick at home that keeps the guy around. David was cheating on this with Rachel. It was around the time she was pregnant - which usually means that Jamie made the mistake of cutting off sex while pregnant expecting David to go along.