OK, this is the last one I've got for a while.
Odessa, Ukraine
Quality of Women: 5 / 5
Ease of Hooking Up: 2 / 5
Things to Do: 2 / 5
Time Spent There: One week
Lays: None
Executive Summary: Much smaller and colder than I expected. There are some really, really hot girls... and that's about all.
Night Life:
The famed Arkadia Beach was a major letdown. Both at night and during the day. All of the nightlife is on Arkadia. Don't bother with the city center. There were only 5-6 clubs that had anybody in them. Let's see if I can remember them: Western, Itaka, Ibiza, Secret, and Moscow.
Western and Moscow sucked. Itaka, Ibiza and Secret were good. Secret is where I picked up the only girl I hooked up with while I was there. I approached the hottest girl I've ever approached in my life in Itaka on a Wednesday. She was super receptive but didn't speak any English and quickly lost interest. That was the story of the trip pretty much. There are other bars and clubs down there, but they were all pretty much empty or not worth going to when we were there.
The nightlife runs Wednesday through Saturday. Not sure about Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. I heard that on any given night, at least one club will have people all summer long. But it rained those days when we were there so we didn't go out (the clubs are open-air).
In the winter, I have no idea what they do. Maybe they all go to the city center. But seriously, why the fuck would you go to Ukraine in the winter?
The Women:
This is really the only reason I could possibly give someone to ever go to Odessa: the girls. Not all of the women in Odessa are stunners, but the ones who are, holy fucking god, smoke trails behind them as they walk past you. In any given 24 hour period, I'd see 3-4 girls who were hotter than pretty much anything I've ever seen in the US. And yes, that includes Miami, LA, NYC and Vegas. MAYBE on a good night at a top place in NYC or Miami you'll see a girl of similar caliber (note: one girl). In Odessa, you'll see a handful each night. While I was there, my girl told me that Odessa has more international modeling agencies per capita than any other city. No idea if that's true or not, but I believe it.
But that's about it. None of them speak English. In my entire time there, I met literally two people who spoke English at all. One was a 40-year-old man in a bar, who was actually very cool. And another was the girl I hooked up with but didn't lay (she was too smart for that).
Women in Ukraine are social-circle oriented. They're conservative. They're traditional. And they're less aware or interested in the outside or western world than Russians or other nationalities. What I'm saying is, being from the western doesn't buy you many brownie points here, unless she speaks English, of course... which none of them do.
Honestly, unless you're at least conversational in Russian, I can't tell you it's worth it to go. There's nothing much to do there, the food and weather sucks, the beach sucks, and no one speaks English. And after a while, seeing all of these smoking hot women, tall, thin, long beautiful hair, high cheek bones, perfect asses, perfect lips -- who don't speak any fucking English and don't even care to try -- you just start cockteasing yourself by being there. So I holed up in my room the last three days. Ditched my girl who wouldn't fuck me. And got a lot of work done.
Day Game:
If you want to go this route, the main city center around Deribasovskaya is the way to go. It's the main shopping street, blocked off to traffic and has the most hot girls walking around during the day. But even then it's not a huge amount of foot traffic. Odessa is surprisingly small. It's listed as a population of 1 million, but it felt more like a city of maybe 500,000, if that.
The beach is crowded and full of people in the summer. But just about everybody goes in groups and I'm not a fan of approaching groups during the day.
Things to Do:
Not much. The beach is tiny, full of concrete, the water is freezing even in June. The cafes and restaurants around there are awful, although there are some decent restaurants in the city center. The opera house is the only thing worth seeing, and if you've seen opera houses in five other European cities like I had, you're not missing much.
I will say though, if you're a poker player, the poker rooms here have some incredibly soft tables. Lots of tourists from Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, etc. come up and spend all of their time in the casinos. For the most part they're terrible players. My friend and I took a nice little pay day off these guys. I paid for my entire time there from the winnings. So I guess I can't complain.
I will also say, if you go, get an apartment. The hotels are a monster rip off and you can get an absolutely amazing apartment for very cheap. My friend and I got a gigantic apartment in the city center, two bedrooms, full kitchen and dining room, living room with big screen TV, wifi, everything, for $80 a night.
Odessa, Ukraine
Quality of Women: 5 / 5
Ease of Hooking Up: 2 / 5
Things to Do: 2 / 5
Time Spent There: One week
Lays: None
Executive Summary: Much smaller and colder than I expected. There are some really, really hot girls... and that's about all.
Night Life:
The famed Arkadia Beach was a major letdown. Both at night and during the day. All of the nightlife is on Arkadia. Don't bother with the city center. There were only 5-6 clubs that had anybody in them. Let's see if I can remember them: Western, Itaka, Ibiza, Secret, and Moscow.
Western and Moscow sucked. Itaka, Ibiza and Secret were good. Secret is where I picked up the only girl I hooked up with while I was there. I approached the hottest girl I've ever approached in my life in Itaka on a Wednesday. She was super receptive but didn't speak any English and quickly lost interest. That was the story of the trip pretty much. There are other bars and clubs down there, but they were all pretty much empty or not worth going to when we were there.
The nightlife runs Wednesday through Saturday. Not sure about Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. I heard that on any given night, at least one club will have people all summer long. But it rained those days when we were there so we didn't go out (the clubs are open-air).
In the winter, I have no idea what they do. Maybe they all go to the city center. But seriously, why the fuck would you go to Ukraine in the winter?
The Women:
This is really the only reason I could possibly give someone to ever go to Odessa: the girls. Not all of the women in Odessa are stunners, but the ones who are, holy fucking god, smoke trails behind them as they walk past you. In any given 24 hour period, I'd see 3-4 girls who were hotter than pretty much anything I've ever seen in the US. And yes, that includes Miami, LA, NYC and Vegas. MAYBE on a good night at a top place in NYC or Miami you'll see a girl of similar caliber (note: one girl). In Odessa, you'll see a handful each night. While I was there, my girl told me that Odessa has more international modeling agencies per capita than any other city. No idea if that's true or not, but I believe it.
But that's about it. None of them speak English. In my entire time there, I met literally two people who spoke English at all. One was a 40-year-old man in a bar, who was actually very cool. And another was the girl I hooked up with but didn't lay (she was too smart for that).
Women in Ukraine are social-circle oriented. They're conservative. They're traditional. And they're less aware or interested in the outside or western world than Russians or other nationalities. What I'm saying is, being from the western doesn't buy you many brownie points here, unless she speaks English, of course... which none of them do.
Honestly, unless you're at least conversational in Russian, I can't tell you it's worth it to go. There's nothing much to do there, the food and weather sucks, the beach sucks, and no one speaks English. And after a while, seeing all of these smoking hot women, tall, thin, long beautiful hair, high cheek bones, perfect asses, perfect lips -- who don't speak any fucking English and don't even care to try -- you just start cockteasing yourself by being there. So I holed up in my room the last three days. Ditched my girl who wouldn't fuck me. And got a lot of work done.
Day Game:
If you want to go this route, the main city center around Deribasovskaya is the way to go. It's the main shopping street, blocked off to traffic and has the most hot girls walking around during the day. But even then it's not a huge amount of foot traffic. Odessa is surprisingly small. It's listed as a population of 1 million, but it felt more like a city of maybe 500,000, if that.
The beach is crowded and full of people in the summer. But just about everybody goes in groups and I'm not a fan of approaching groups during the day.
Things to Do:
Not much. The beach is tiny, full of concrete, the water is freezing even in June. The cafes and restaurants around there are awful, although there are some decent restaurants in the city center. The opera house is the only thing worth seeing, and if you've seen opera houses in five other European cities like I had, you're not missing much.
I will say though, if you're a poker player, the poker rooms here have some incredibly soft tables. Lots of tourists from Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, etc. come up and spend all of their time in the casinos. For the most part they're terrible players. My friend and I took a nice little pay day off these guys. I paid for my entire time there from the winnings. So I guess I can't complain.
I will also say, if you go, get an apartment. The hotels are a monster rip off and you can get an absolutely amazing apartment for very cheap. My friend and I got a gigantic apartment in the city center, two bedrooms, full kitchen and dining room, living room with big screen TV, wifi, everything, for $80 a night.