[torridon747]

(09-01-2018 09:17 PM)KiwiTheGermanShepherd Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 04:20 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

In my experience it dries up pussy like the Sahara

Its best to keep it simple and save deep, philosophical discussion on people i'm not trying to fuck

honestly I really think it depends on the girl. If you want to fuck a retard for the night then dont have an intellictual conversation with them. However, if you want to have a strong emotional connection and better sex then its best to vibe something about you are both passionate about

I'd bang a retarded chick as long as I was attracted. The girls that bang you probably think the same thing

[blck]

(09-01-2018 09:17 PM)KiwiTheGermanShepherd Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 04:20 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

In my experience it dries up pussy like the Sahara

Its best to keep it simple and save deep, philosophical discussion on people i'm not trying to fuck

honestly I really think it depends on the girl. If you want to fuck a retard for the night then dont have an intellictual conversation with them. However, if you want to have a strong emotional connection and better sex then its best to vibe something about you are both passionate about.

So talking "intellictual" to some broad about something you are, supposedly, both passionate about will create strong emotional connection and lead to better sex ?

Can you post more theories ?

[ThrustMaster]

If you actually are intelligent and knowledgeable and not putting on airs, yes. Quiet clean disenchanted, bordering on arrogance and the ability to back it up works.

Not always with the millennials mostly because they might tap you as “mean”, “not nice” etc but in my preferred target group xennials and gen x it works like a charm.

[Sender]

Something I've noticed is that if you're in a mixed group and you relate 'intellectually' with anyone besides your target that can often pique her interest and she will give IOIs.

In other words, keep it superficial with her but speak the 'deep' stuff with another male or older female in the group. This has the additional (negging) effect of demonstrating that she's not mature or intelligent enough to bother with intellectual discussion with her.

This is just an observation -- my problem previously has been that I either get carried away with the conversation or just been not aggressive enough to close the deal. In the hands of a more experienced player it would be an effective strategy, perhaps.

[jordypip23]

I think they like the concept of you being smart even more than whatever you are actually saying (assuming you already passed the IOI test).

Decent IQ & up women that were bred in an environment where intelligence was celebrated tend to appreciate & respect intelligent discussion to a some extent. I do believe in this type of context it can buy you some brownie points.

[Rushmore]

It depends.

Not the actual execution of the debate, but a hint, a preview. A sample what kind of complicated drama you could come up with, if needed.

Works well with nerdy/brainy FSU PhD types, Iranians etc.

Easy-going people like Brazilians usually fail to understand the attraction of it.

[quaker13]

As with most things related to the male female relationship dynamic and game...just save the intellectual mumbo jumbo for after you get the smash. No point in mucking things up before hand by shoving intellectualism down her throat particularly if it aint her bag

[Waqqle]

Women do not want you to demystify anything. They want you to create a fantasy for them and then follow as you lead them through it. Once you start explaining everything to them and telling them all the mechanical details of how you constructed the fantasy and the philosophical implications behind it, they dry up and go looking for some other entertainer who will not spoil their fun and force them to deal with reality. Women do not want facts. They want feelings.

[No More Mr. Soy Boy]

I believe women can be attracted by a guy who is perceived as an authority on certain topics but not by an intellectual discussion by itself. If the discussion portrays you in a way that she thinks you can gain social status based on what you seem to know, then it's possible but women don't get turned on by intellectual stimulation.

A few years back I saw this older couple who studied wild animals in Africa and were running some wild animal hospital in the middle of nowhere. They were both big nerds, seemed to have an IQ well above average and just loved wild animals.

At first they hanged around in the same small social circle at some farm in the savannah and this woman said that she became attracted by the bloke as she realized he had such a huge knowledge in the field and she was "so impressed". It was clear that everyone there let him be "the alpha" there because he had the most knowledge about that particular topic, in that specific environment.

If he knew everything about 300 other sciences and nothing about wild animals, I bet that woman wouldn't have given two fucks about him.

[LatinaLova]

Depends on the girl, some like an intellectual guy and will engage those conversations themselves. BUT the big risk is turning this into a heated political debate and straight up lose the girl (made that mistake once with a Hillary/Donald debate lol). Make sure you maintain control

As a rule of thumb though, best to avoid before the lay. Keep things light, fun and casual.

Now post-sex is a different story. You can talk about w/e you want especially if you want to dump lol

[MaceTyrell]

LTRs get turned on by intellectual discussion.

SNL's do not.

LTR quality women enjoy listening to/partaking intellectual discusssion.

SNL quality women find partying to Top 40 music more fun.

[ichm1980]

(12-24-2018 06:18 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  

Women do not want you to demystify anything. They want you to create a fantasy for them and then follow as you lead them through it. Once you start explaining everything to them and telling them all the mechanical details of how you constructed the fantasy and the philosophical implications behind it, they dry up and go looking for some other entertainer who will not spoil their fun and force them to deal with reality. Women do not want facts. They want feelings.

This is off the mark in that it lumps together feelings that go together with facts and intellectuality (I am thinking about INFPs in Myers-Briggs typology: every serious artist/humanistic philosopher) and feelings that are emanations of hollow narcissism and either the Alpha Fux or the Beta Bux embedded firmware of the female mind.

Unreasonable, narcissism-serving, mating and exploitation maximization self-deception & responsibility-denying boosting feelings are not "feelings" they are "a set of feelings".

(12-24-2018 06:51 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

I believe women can be attracted by a guy who is perceived as an authority on certain topics but not by intellectual discussion itself.

You shoulda see the thundershower constantly falling upon social media/dating sites profiles of "Artist, smart, thinker, loves deep discussions,...". Some have begun to add that they are "philosophers" .

Meanwhile, the reality of it is spot-on as you described it. Sex, money, status, food for narcissism — behind every cover, even intellectual interest.

[JackinMelbourne]

Yes, especially when they are interested in the topic. If you're getting intellectual about accounting, you want to make sure that you're gaming an accountant (or gold digger lol).

It can also demonstrate higher value and build tension if you throw in subtle innuendos/NLP as part of the discussion.

Basically, be cool and know when to drop the topic, when to let them have a turn, when to escalate etc.

[Waqqle]

(12-24-2018 08:58 PM)ichm1980 Wrote:  

(12-24-2018 06:18 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  

Women do not want you to demystify anything. They want you to create a fantasy for them and then follow as you lead them through it. Once you start explaining everything to them and telling them all the mechanical details of how you constructed the fantasy and the philosophical implications behind it, they dry up and go looking for some other entertainer who will not spoil their fun and force them to deal with reality. Women do not want facts. They want feelings.

This is off the mark in that it lumps together feelings that go together with facts and intellectuality (I am thinking about INFPs in Myers-Briggs typology: every serious artist/humanistic philosopher) and feelings that are emanations of hollow narcissism and either the Alpha Fux or the Beta Bux embedded firmware of the female mind.

Unreasonable, narcissism-serving, mating and exploitation maximization self-deception & responsibility-denying boosting feelings are not "feelings" they are "a set of feelings".

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Could you word it differently?

[Zoso]

(12-24-2018 06:18 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  

Women do not want you to demystify anything. They want you to create a fantasy for them and then follow as you lead them through it. Once you start explaining everything to them and telling them all the mechanical details of how you constructed the fantasy and the philosophical implications behind it, they dry up and go looking for some other entertainer who will not spoil their fun and force them to deal with reality. Women do not want facts. They want feelings.

I second this.

I know many girls that belief in Horoscop. I DGAF about this but I sometimes pretend that I kind of believe it as well (or that I am a little not sure but think that it could be true), and they like it.

I don't ever try to convince them to not believe it or explain thing in a logical way. They don't want that. They just want to keep thinking this myths and enjoying it.

This helps me also to treat them like little sisters.

[Donfitz007]

COme off as that Jack of all trades that just so happen to know everything. I naturally do this and girls compliment me on it all the time. Listen to her and add little anecdotes in the conversation.

NEVER come off as bragging.

[RatInTheWoods]

You just need to run rings around her intellectually a few times, low key, non bragging and not putting her down.

Then she can tick off her "hes a smart guy" which is a big plus for a woman to know she has a smarter guy than her.

But once this is done there is little point in involving her in intellectual conversations, no matter how much she tells you it turns her on, because it doesn't.

[Rushmore]

Isn't it a bit like girls about guys who COULD beat someone else up? Its more the fantasy than the actual execution?

[CaravanPilot]

I think it depends on the context and the woman. From my experience intellectual discussion can be good. For example, when I recently took a woman out who is new to my city. She really enjoyed when as I was walking her downtown I told her the local history of some of our landmarks. In general, if you are having intellectual discussion it should be kept on something relatable and non-political. That way it can carry into a more personal and interesting discussion. A good approach would be to think of how an engaging and interesting teacher approaches a topic. It might be something you don't care about at all, but the way they teach pulls you in and you want to listen then engage with them.

[lunchmoney]

(12-24-2018 08:28 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

LTRs get turned on by intellectual discussion.

SNL's do not.

LTR quality women enjoy listening to/partaking intellectual discusssion.

SNL quality women find partying to Top 40 music more fun.

That is a great way to determine the type of woman you are seeing is bring up a topic that will force her to engage in a stimulating discussion. If she rather talk to you about Cardi B's love life, then you know.

[brianmark]

Most women don't want intellectual discussion, unless it's them trying to impress you how smart they are. And quit trying to impress with how great you are. They already know if they like you. Talk about fun things only.

[Unikorn]

There are some kind of women that do turn on by intellectual conversation
But this is in a really small percentage of women
Some advices is to use it or try it into ur daygame, if you try to impress a girl in club or something like that with your intelectual conversation most likely you will get rejected pretty fast and you really need to see what kind of women you have in front of your dick, in a few minutes you can notice if she is gonna be interested on that

[Rushmore]

Lets not forget that there are far more women that the ones in a club.

Had my best time with IQ babes with PhDs.

[coffeedrinker]

I've had decent reactions on dates when talking about intellectual things I'm either passionate about, or we both have an understanding of. Though I've only been to dates with girls that are at minimum on an arts university course so that may affect results.

One of my favourite things to talk about is stars and space exploration (when we are outside). Shows that I'm curious about more than the typical guy, and can easily make a joke about it to lighten the mood if required based on her reception.

[Savonarola]

it's better if they DON'T know how intelligent you are. That scares off half of them.
I go out with women to take a BREAK from my daily intellectual life.
There have been exceptions, but not many.