[Jungle]

(09-05-2016 12:03 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

If I want a child one day

Checked thrice, couldn't find a lecture, just a different opinion. I hear you, yes I agree - each to their own, horses for courses, more power to you. My point was in response specifically to the following wording - "If I want a child one day", that's all.

[zoom]

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

Not true. There are plenty of pro bodybuilders who train once or twice a week using HIT principals.

[scotian]

(12-15-2016 06:12 PM)zoom Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

Not true. There are plenty of pro bodybuilders who train once or twice a week using HIT principals.

How much experience with anabolics do you have? Are you an experienced body builder?

I notice that you have a negative rep point from Mixx, that's impressive!

[Mjölnir]

(12-15-2016 06:12 PM)zoom Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

Not true. There are plenty of pro bodybuilders who train once or twice a week using HIT principals.

Plenty ? Not really. Even those who use HIT don't workout once or twice. If you're a bodybuilder you're not going to be able to work on all the details you need to step on a stage on two workouts a week.

Plus, taking several anabolics to go to the gym one or two times a week it's just wasting your money, if you're able to be balls to the walls everyday and recover (because of the drugs) that's exactly what you should do, and that's why plenty of PROFESSIONAL bodybuilders workout everyday sometimes twice a day. I can list them if you want to. Can you do the same for these plenty of you're talking about ?

[kartik13]

Ive been to a skin care clinic I had microdermabrasion and some other stuff done. There are many skin care clinics throughout many major cities they can definitely boost your aesthetic appearance.

For bald guys look into getting hair transplants if you have the crown or are bald but still have some hair on your head. They can go anywhere from 5 - 15k but definately worth it. I will be getting one in the near future.

Also to increase your penis size check out the bathmate. It's proven to actually increase the size of your penis

http://www.bathmatedirectshop.com

[asdfk]

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I've been thinking about taking steroids or other drugs to become jacked, because it seems like a low investment / high return kind of deal. However, I read some conflicting opinions in this thread.

I don't mind lifting once or twice a week, but more then that is beyond what I enjoy. I do practice a lot of other physical skills, which I enjoy more and are more useful. Taking steroids and training hard for a little bit to get some "free" gains sounded appealing if it's less time spent in the gym and my body can take it (minimal side effects)

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

If test was a magic formula for muscle then hundreds of thousands men in their 50s watching NASCAR and asking their doctor about androgel, would be jacked. You have to put in the effort to get the results.

I realise I omitted an important distinction from my question. 'm willing to hit the gym every day as long as it is for a specific goal. Hitting it daily for 2 months for good gains, and then reverting back to twice a week for maintenance. I could probably do even more months of intense training, but at some point I would want to go back to training twice just for maintenance. Does that change your stance on steroids?

[Atlanta Man]

(12-16-2016 03:29 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I've been thinking about taking steroids or other drugs to become jacked, because it seems like a low investment / high return kind of deal. However, I read some conflicting opinions in this thread.

I don't mind lifting once or twice a week, but more then that is beyond what I enjoy. I do practice a lot of other physical skills, which I enjoy more and are more useful. Taking steroids and training hard for a little bit to get some "free" gains sounded appealing if it's less time spent in the gym and my body can take it (minimal side effects)

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

If test was a magic formula for muscle then hundreds of thousands men in their 50s watching NASCAR and asking their doctor about androgel, would be jacked. You have to put in the effort to get the results.

I realise I omitted an important distinction from my question. 'm willing to hit the gym every day as long as it is for a specific goal. Hitting it daily for 2 months for good gains, and then reverting back to twice a week for maintenance. I could probably do even more months of intense training, but at some point I would want to go back to training twice just for maintenance. Does that change your stance on steroids?

Do not do steroids until you have been hitting the gym religiously for at least 1 year 4 times a week at minimum. After hitting the gym 4 times a week for 1 1/2 to 2 hours per session for 6 months you should be seeing a massive transformation in your appearance and you will look forward to the gym because it will be a part of your life. Do not skip leg day ever, it is the most important day for testosterone levels.

At one year once you can either 1)chest press 225 for 15 reps or 2)chest press 315 for 1 rep -Then do a two month cycle with Testosterone followed Post Cycle Therapy and a Cut Cycle. During your Testosterone cycle Hit the gym 6 days a week , up your caloric intake, and increase your sleep(use benzodiazapines if you have difficulty falling asleep). You should have no problem with recovery due to the Testosterone. During your cycle do not drink alcohol, drink copious amounts of water, and eat lots of fish, nuts, meat, and raw veggies.

During your cutting cycle the only cardio you do is 15 min of Stairmaster warm up, then lift for 1 1/2 hours , then 15 min of Stairmaster on the way out of the gym. Keep lifting hard and you will have minimal loss of your gains during your cut, most of your losses will be retained water weight from your Testosterone cycle.

A little personal advice, try the oral prohormones before you go for the needle.

[LINUX]

(12-16-2016 03:29 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I've been thinking about taking steroids or other drugs to become jacked, because it seems like a low investment / high return kind of deal. However, I read some conflicting opinions in this thread.

I don't mind lifting once or twice a week, but more then that is beyond what I enjoy. I do practice a lot of other physical skills, which I enjoy more and are more useful. Taking steroids and training hard for a little bit to get some "free" gains sounded appealing if it's less time spent in the gym and my body can take it (minimal side effects)

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

If test was a magic formula for muscle then hundreds of thousands men in their 50s watching NASCAR and asking their doctor about androgel, would be jacked. You have to put in the effort to get the results.

I realise I omitted an important distinction from my question. 'm willing to hit the gym every day as long as it is for a specific goal. Hitting it daily for 2 months for good gains, and then reverting back to twice a week for maintenance. I could probably do even more months of intense training, but at some point I would want to go back to training twice just for maintenance. Does that change your stance on steroids?

Look into a high intensity / low volume program. I've been doing DC training for about 8 years. I go to the gym, Mon, Wed and Friday. It's very intensive but any progression based routine will work. That's what it comes down to in the end, forcing your body to grow by continuously stimulating it and allowing it to recover. It doesn't happen overnight, you follow the process week after week and the gains come, if diet and rest is on par.

I don't recommend the pro hormone route or any liver toxic drugs, even though I discussed winstrol in my original post. You need to take care of your liver; even though I don't. Don't go around slamming 17aa's like they are candy. Poking your ass once a week shouldn't be a big deal.

You're first cycle is going to be your best so do it right. And like I said earlier, I don't recommend cycles, stay on or stay off.

If you want, I can point you to some friends in the community to answer your questions on this, but I left to the bodybuilding / androgen scene a long time ago because my patience with people ran out. It's the same questions over and over again, and providing the same answers you did the day before.

[kirdiesel]

I'm all about this right now stuff right now for 2017... I think this is the shit is whats keeping me under that 8+ glass ceiling... I'm 100% on it.

Great thread

[churros]

I would certainly consider getting braces in Colombia. But don't you need to be around for a long time, in order to get them adjusted and so on? Does anyone have experience with this?

In the future I will certainly consider that hair surgery which moves your scalp from the back to the front. Anyone have experience of this procedure in Colombia or otherwise?

[aeroektar]

I'm 30 and my teeth are fucked, I have a cracked incisor tooth on the top and a cracked canine tooth on the bottom, my teeth are straight from braces but they're super close together and will continue to break, pretty much all of my molars have cavities, it is what it is my family has bad teeth.

I was considering having about a dozen root canals and crowns/bridges done but honestly at this point I don't want to deal with that shit, my brother just got dentures in his late 40s and he's confident as hell and fucking college chicks.

So I'm considering having them all pulled and getting dentures, eventually when I can afford it I could upgrade to the All In 4 system which is permanent hybrid denture/implants.

Anyone ever been down this road?

[rhodey]

This might be a good look for the brothas and even some white dudes depending on individual styles.I think it looks pretty damn realistic when done correctly.

[asdfk]

Thanks LINUX and Atlanta Man for your very informative answers.
I have seen great gains previously with working out 3 times a week and eatings tons of food. I am already quite muscular, but in no way ripped or bodybuilder-like. But I do understand I would have to commit religiously for six months to a year, and I should really block that time in when I am not moving around.

[Maxzilla]

Tons of men can greatly benefit from a sliding genioplasty procedure

[Atlanta Man]

(12-17-2016 01:10 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 03:29 AM)asdfk Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 01:55 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

I've been thinking about taking steroids or other drugs to become jacked, because it seems like a low investment / high return kind of deal. However, I read some conflicting opinions in this thread.

I don't mind lifting once or twice a week, but more then that is beyond what I enjoy. I do practice a lot of other physical skills, which I enjoy more and are more useful. Taking steroids and training hard for a little bit to get some "free" gains sounded appealing if it's less time spent in the gym and my body can take it (minimal side effects)

There are no free gains. If you're not willing to hit the gym more than twice a week then test is pointless for you.

If test was a magic formula for muscle then hundreds of thousands men in their 50s watching NASCAR and asking their doctor about androgel, would be jacked. You have to put in the effort to get the results.

I realise I omitted an important distinction from my question. 'm willing to hit the gym every day as long as it is for a specific goal. Hitting it daily for 2 months for good gains, and then reverting back to twice a week for maintenance. I could probably do even more months of intense training, but at some point I would want to go back to training twice just for maintenance. Does that change your stance on steroids?

Look into a high intensity / low volume program. I've been doing DC training for about 8 years. I go to the gym, Mon, Wed and Friday. It's very intensive but any progression based routine will work. That's what it comes down to in the end, forcing your body to grow by continuously stimulating it and allowing it to recover. It doesn't happen overnight, you follow the process week after week and the gains come, if diet and rest is on par.

I don't recommend the pro hormone route or any liver toxic drugs, even though I discussed winstrol in my original post. You need to take care of your liver; even though I don't. Don't go around slamming 17aa's like they are candy. Poking your ass once a week shouldn't be a big deal.

You're first cycle is going to be your best so do it right. And like I said earlier, I don't recommend cycles, stay on or stay off.

If you want, I can point you to some friends in the community to answer your questions on this, but I left to the bodybuilding / androgen scene a long time ago because my patience with people ran out. It's the same questions over and over again, and providing the same answers you did the day before.

I forgot to put using Liver Shield in my write up- LINUX is correct oral prohormones do not skip first pass and are metabolized into their active state in the liver which is why I said not to drink. The liver, unlike other organs, regenerates 100% healthy tissue if it is not catastrophically injured or chronically diseased (ex-Hep C, or Alpha 1 anti- Tripsin Deficiency) so you should be ok. The reason I did not suggest using the needle upfront is that hormone swings and other side effects(testicular atrophy, gynocomastia,acne, ect.) are not as bad with prohormones. I know a few guys who did the prohormones and were satisfied with the results(me being one of them), however the needle will give you more dramatic results no doubt. Ultimately the choice is up to you.

[Gorgiass]

(09-09-2016 08:01 PM)Mushroom Wrote:  

@nomadbrah, it's controversial as hell but, we are in the unorthodox methods thread, so here goes:

Melanotan II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II) has worked for some people for years. I'm damn near dead pale naturally, I can develop a decent looking tan if I'm consistent with tanning nearly every single day for a little over a month, and then I have to keep it up or I lose it rapidly. On Melanotan II, after a few weeks I look Italian. I haven't used it for about a year now and have been tanning naturally, but I think I'm going to go back on really soon.

I lot of people that take it say they get insanely horny when they first take it, I didn't experience those side effects... Wish I did though.

Now that is pretty cool! Also consider tanning lotions, they don't make people look carrot colored like they did years ago, and won't age your face like UV damage. L'Oreal sublime bronze (the lightweight fast drying one) is my favorite. Not greasy and smells better than others. Definite rise in eyefucks when sporting a good tan. I only worry about face and neck most of the time but will definitely give this Melanotan a shot down the road.

Milk thistle is a liver protectant if going oral prohormones but I also wouldn't recommend them.

[LINUX]

(12-26-2016 12:22 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

(09-09-2016 08:01 PM)Mushroom Wrote:  

@nomadbrah, it's controversial as hell but, we are in the unorthodox methods thread, so here goes:

Melanotan II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II) has worked for some people for years. I'm damn near dead pale naturally, I can develop a decent looking tan if I'm consistent with tanning nearly every single day for a little over a month, and then I have to keep it up or I lose it rapidly. On Melanotan II, after a few weeks I look Italian. I haven't used it for about a year now and have been tanning naturally, but I think I'm going to go back on really soon.

I lot of people that take it say they get insanely horny when they first take it, I didn't experience those side effects... Wish I did though.

Now that is pretty cool! Also consider tanning lotions, they don't make people look carrot colored like they did years ago, and won't age your face like UV damage. L'Oreal sublime bronze (the lightweight fast drying one) is my favorite. Not greasy and smells better than others. Definite rise in eyefucks when sporting a good tan. I only worry about face and neck most of the time but will definitely give this Melanotan a shot down the road.

Milk thistle is a liver protectant if going oral prohormones but I also wouldn't recommend them.

I missed the MT-II post. I recall knowing a few people taking this who developed some dark spots that never went away but I never tried MT-II myself. I know the peptide was floating around the gym a lot.

What's your experience with this mushroom?

Also Gorgiass, NAC and ALA are very good liver protectants/ cleanser. At one time I my AST and ALT levels were sub 100, doing something really stupid at the time, a 3 day blast of of NAC and ALA took them down to the low 20's. Still have to blood test somewhere to prove it.

[crispytaco]

Wow, nice info. Never tought about some of the topics mentioned. I went to the lab to get a testosterone check.

Mental note:
- Get some L'Oreal sublime bronze
- Check for botox price.
- Check manicure price

When I was 18 never tought of using stuff for wrinkles. I said it was gay. Now at 42, I'm eating my words O.o.

[Aleventure]

Hyaluronic acid serum as antiaging properties. Apply it to your face a few times a day, I've started doing it.

[Swell]

(09-06-2016 11:16 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 02:59 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

http://www.rapidhomeremedies.com/remedie...moles.html

Natural non-surgical mole removal. Anyone ever done this? Does it work?

I've used apple cider vinegar before to remove a wart on my leg. I have a chemical burn scar from it but it worked.

I'm tempted to try it on a mole and see what happens. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it works.

A.C.V. works for mole removal.

I have done it twice. Removal will leave minor scar.

Mole removal take about two weeks while applying A.C.V. three times per day.

[Moma]

(01-05-2017 08:58 PM)Aleventure Wrote:  

Hyaluronic acid serum as antiaging properties. Apply it to your face a few times a day, I've started doing it.

Have you noticed a marked difference in how youthful you look now from this? How long have you been doing it for?

[Moma]

(01-05-2017 10:46 PM)Swell Wrote:  

A.C.V. works for mole removal.

I have done it twice. Removal will leave minor scar.

Mole removal take about two weeks while applying A.C.V. three times per day.

Is this risky or no more than having the thing frozen and left until it falls off?

[LINUX]

(01-05-2017 08:58 PM)Aleventure Wrote:  

Hyaluronic acid serum as antiaging properties. Apply it to your face a few times a day, I've started doing it.

In South America and also with Indian Pharmacies overseas, you can freely buy Tretinoin for nickels and dimes. It's suppose to do wonder for aging.

[Prince Charming]

For more of a long term approach

No sugar
No alcohol
Organic foods
Regular sun exposure
lots of sex

Also bald is the second most attractive hair style for men to women (based on online dating data) Shave that shit if you are concerned about your hair line.

[markygras]

This is relevant to my interests

I've had hair transplants, lasik, invisalign, and fillers. Obviously the hair transplants made the biggest difference - I'm 35 but look like I'm 24 according to girls. Lasik in this day and age is a no brainer. Invisalign is a piece of cake if you're disciplined (brush after every meal, wear it 20-22 hours a day). I was only on it for 6 months to correct one wayward tooth.

I was riddled with acne scars and bad skin most of my life. I put together a skin care regimine that basically cured all of those issues (thread-57389.html).

My most recent T exam (last year when I was 34) showed 740, but maybe once I'm past 40 I'll look into injections. I take finasteride which *may* have impacted my libido (although age alone affects it).

I'm planning to go to Colombia in May. I've been taking Spanish lessons for a few months, and plan to get spray tanned just before the trip. (hitting the gym like crazy too)

I have light green eyes. Going to look into these eye brightening drops - on Tinder, if a girl ever opens on me, her intro comment will be about my eyes