[El Chinito loco]

(08-02-2016 04:45 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 26m26 minutes ago
BREAKING: US DNC CEO Amy Dacey, CFO Brad Marshall & Chief of Communications Luis Miranda have resigned #DNCLeak

My problem with this is that these are all just buttonmen. They are disposable patsies.

The DNC is going to make a symbolic purge at the public's behest and replace these people with loyal dogs just as bad or even worse than the previous set.

Then they'll say things are different now when jack shit has changed. We all know that. They know that. It's going through the motions to appease the idiocracy.

[kaotic]

Then they'll get jobs with Hillary's election team easy.

You know that's exactly where their going since they covered their bosses ass.

[philosophical_recovery]

2 more timely deaths.

Shawn Lucas, who served the dnc lawsuit. Too early for details.

Victor Thorn, anti Clinton researcher, supposed suicide of gunshot wound.

[kaotic]

(08-04-2016 11:18 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

2 more timely deaths.

Shawn Lucas, who served the dnc lawsuit. Too early for details.

Victor Thorn, anti Clinton researcher, supposed suicide of gunshot wound.

Don't how credible these are....yet.

Reason I say that is these are on a few blog sites, haven't been really picked up by any independent or major news outlets.

Granted they'll probably want this buried.

[Diogenes]

(08-04-2016 11:18 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Victor Thorn, anti Clinton researcher, supposed suicide of gunshot wound.

What happened? Did he manage to shoot himself twice in the back of the head with a .22 ?

Seriously though if this many people with a connection to the same person died, the cops would be all over that person if it were anyone else.

[budoslavic]

(08-04-2016 12:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-04-2016 11:18 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

2 more timely deaths.

Shawn Lucas, who served the dnc lawsuit. Too early for details.

Victor Thorn, anti Clinton researcher, supposed suicide of gunshot wound.

Don't how credible these are....yet.
I say that is these are on a few blog sites, haven't been really picked up by any independent or major news outlets.

Granted they'll probably want this buried.

From looking at the picture via #ShawnLucas Hashtag and video of Shawn Lucas, he seemed way too young and healthy to pass away unexpectedly. Hate to say it, but something is not right.

[Link to video]

Via @jcgraham77


Via Snopes:

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We contacted Lucas' employer on 4 August 2016 to ask whether there was any truth to the rumor. According to an individual with whom we spoke at that company, Shawn Lucas died on 2 August 2016. The audibly and understandably shaken employee stated that interest in the circumstances of Lucas' death had prompted a number of phone calls and other queries, but the company had not yet ascertained any details about Lucas' cause of death and were unable to confirm anything more than the fact he had passed away.

An unconfirmed report holds that Lucas was found lying on the bathroom floor by his girlfriend when she returned home on the evening of 2 August 2016. Paramedics responding to her 911 call found no signs of life.

[TravelerKai]

This shit is getting beyond ridiculous. Looking more and more like Mexico every fucking day and these clowns are getting away with it. We might have to leave the country for our own safety if this shit keeps up. She could use the NSA to find us all easily.

[philosophical_recovery]

Snopes felt the need to comment on it and see if he is in fact, dead.

However, the news media is COMPLETELY IGNORING THIS.

   

Apparently, this is a non-story. A lawyer tied to a lawsuit and scandal for a presidential candidate is suddenly dead, and his death isn't even in the regular media outlets.

This country's entire news system is fucked.

I thought I was a weirdo for following this crap, but it's looking more and more true. It is deeper than I imagined.

[budoslavic]

Well...put on your , gentlemen. This kind of shit gets more and more stranger within the DNC organization.

I was just reading up on the mysterious Shawn Lucas' death and this comment captured my attention from a blog post:

Quote:

From Lone Star Mike on TPW
God I hate to even post this, but I will.

I read on Facebook about Shawn Lucas being found dead. He was the activist that served the lawsuit papers to the DNC and DWS.

https://www.facebook.com/Arizonarosewind...7184850757

Then I started reading the comments. There’s a very disturbing comment about something that allegedly happened to Bernie at the DNC sometime between his speech on Monday night and the following day.

After reading that comment (and not wanting to believe it) I did a https://www.google.com/#q=bernie+sanders+gash+on+cheek

Multiple postings (although nothing from the mainstream media) and a video on youtube.

Surely to God this can’t be true.

I’m starting to doubt my own sanity these days. I don’t really know what to think any more.

thank you as always LSM

Won't even use the word "coincidence" anymore.

So, I Googled https://www.google.com/#q=bernie+sanders+gash+on+cheek and the search results displayed a bunch of blog posts like this example below.

Quote:

DNC Witnesses Say Bernie Sanders Was Physically Assaulted
Posted on July 31, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, US



Witnesses at the recent Democratic National Convention say that Bernie Sanders had a noticeable gash on the right side of his face that he was trying to hide.

The cut was on the right cheekbone and has given rise to questions about whether or not the Vermont Senator was physically beaten-up by somebody within the DNC.

Halturnershow.com reports:

Images of Sanders from Monday show no wound on his face. However, images from Tuesday evening clearly show a gash on his right cheek, of a type one might expect from being punched by a fist which had a ring on it.

The gash is quite deep, certainly nothing like a shaving cut. The man was clearly hit with something.

In whose interest would it be to physically assault a US Senator who is seeking his Party’s nomination for President against the wife of a former President?

In who’s interest indeed?

This issue is spreading very fast among Bernie Sanders supporters and there is trouble brewing in and around the Democrat National Convention and the DNC over this. Here’s one Facebook posting about it:



SANDERS QUITS DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Just one day after this photo was taken, Senator Bernie Sanders QUIT the Democratic Party. Strange thing for a man to do who has spent the last year campaigning for President as a Democrat.

Unless, of course, he got beaten-up by someone else in his own Party . . . someone with something to gain by his departure.

This is how Communists operate in politics and it appears the Democratic Party has become a full fledged Marxist outfit. They are certainly NOT your parents Democratic Party.

Talk about DNC being the most corrupted political party organization ever.

[rpg]

I noticed that gash straight up when it aired. I thought damn the guy must have fallen down or something and cut his face. The dems are eating their own. They probably threatened him after hearing rumors he might go third party.

[philosophical_recovery]

I was very skeptical. Then I checked my own post that I made while watching the disaster live: thread-57209...pid1361480

(07-28-2016 10:10 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

I'm so happy right now.

That looks rather fresh

Didn't even notice it at the time. Holy shit.

[They Call Me Mister Tony]

(08-04-2016 11:12 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Well...put on your , gentlemen. This kind of shit gets more and more stranger within the DNC organization.

I was just reading up on the mysterious Shawn Lucas' death and this comment captured my attention from a blog post:

Quote:

From Lone Star Mike on TPW
God I hate to even post this, but I will.

I read on Facebook about Shawn Lucas being found dead. He was the activist that served the lawsuit papers to the DNC and DWS.

https://www.facebook.com/Arizonarosewind...7184850757

Then I started reading the comments. There’s a very disturbing comment about something that allegedly happened to Bernie at the DNC sometime between his speech on Monday night and the following day.

After reading that comment (and not wanting to believe it) I did a https://www.google.com/#q=bernie+sanders+gash+on+cheek

Multiple postings (although nothing from the mainstream media) and a video on youtube.

Surely to God this can’t be true.

I’m starting to doubt my own sanity these days. I don’t really know what to think any more.

thank you as always LSM

Won't even use the word "coincidence" anymore.

So, I Googled https://www.google.com/#q=bernie+sanders+gash+on+cheek and the search results displayed a bunch of blog posts like this example below.

Quote:

DNC Witnesses Say Bernie Sanders Was Physically Assaulted
Posted on July 31, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, US



Witnesses at the recent Democratic National Convention say that Bernie Sanders had a noticeable gash on the right side of his face that he was trying to hide.

The cut was on the right cheekbone and has given rise to questions about whether or not the Vermont Senator was physically beaten-up by somebody within the DNC.

Halturnershow.com reports:

Images of Sanders from Monday show no wound on his face. However, images from Tuesday evening clearly show a gash on his right cheek, of a type one might expect from being punched by a fist which had a ring on it.

The gash is quite deep, certainly nothing like a shaving cut. The man was clearly hit with something.

In whose interest would it be to physically assault a US Senator who is seeking his Party’s nomination for President against the wife of a former President?

In who’s interest indeed?

This issue is spreading very fast among Bernie Sanders supporters and there is trouble brewing in and around the Democrat National Convention and the DNC over this. Here’s one Facebook posting about it:



SANDERS QUITS DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Just one day after this photo was taken, Senator Bernie Sanders QUIT the Democratic Party. Strange thing for a man to do who has spent the last year campaigning for President as a Democrat.

Unless, of course, he got beaten-up by someone else in his own Party . . . someone with something to gain by his departure.

This is how Communists operate in politics and it appears the Democratic Party has become a full fledged Marxist outfit. They are certainly NOT your parents Democratic Party.

Talk about DNC being the most corrupted political party organization ever.

Wow. I knew the DNC was crooked, but my God, they're taking shit to another level. This sounds like some Mafia shit.

[Leonard D Neubache]

[Samseau]

The next leaks cannot come out soon enough.

[The Beast1]

Is anyone else getting tired of Snopes? Someone needs to take that site down a notch and catch them falsifying shit.

Scum bags are Democratic shills.
.

[budoslavic]

Quote:

GOPjenna ‏@GOPjenna
Just heard Assange said he's likely to wait until October to release the Clinton Foundation incriminating emails.
#wikileaks
6:12 AM - 7 Aug 2016

Quote:

Julian Assange special: Do Wikileaks have the email that will put Hillary Clinton in prison? (E376)
Published time: 6 Aug, 2016 10:45
Edited time: 6 Aug, 2016 20:31

Afshin Rattansi goes underground with Julian Assange. We talk to the founder of Wikileaks about how the recent DNC leaks have no connection to Russia. Plus what are Hillary Clinton's connections to Islamic State, Saudi Arabia and Russia?

Here are some of Assange's most insightful lines:

Clinton, Saudi Arabia & jihadists
“The US government at the times when Hillary Clinton was in charge of the foreign policy did use Libya as a conduit to get arms to jihadists in Syria. That is well-established not just by a range of raw materials but also by … investigative reporters in the US, some of which were even published in The New York Times.”

“La Farge, which is … giant transnational concrete company was involved in Syria. There are more than 350 La Farge related emails in our Syria emails release. The investigations by Le Monde reveals that they paid ISIS money, taxes for their operations in certain areas, were engaged in a variety of business deals with ISIS.”

“Money from La Farge in 2015 and 2016 went to Hillary Clinton foundation. There is actually a long-term relationship between La Farge and Clinton; she was a member of the board.”

“There is also an extensive relationship between Hillary Clinton and Saudi Arabia , between the Clinton Foundation and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is probably the largest single donor to the Clinton Foundation and you can see Clinton’s arms export policies when she was a secretary of state favoring extensively Saudi Arabia.”

On Clinton alleging Russia behind DNC email hack
“What [Hillary Clinton] is attempting to do is to conflate our publications of pristine emails … and whatever hacking has occurred of the DNC or other political organizations in the US by a range of actors.”

In this batch of documents ... there are claims that metadata after someone completed a document to PDF conversion, the language of the computer that was used for that conversion had been Russian. It remains circumstantial evidence – some Russians were involved or someone who wanted it to look like Russian was involved with these other media organizations. That is not the case for the materials that we have released.

Clinton accusing Donald Trump of having ties with Russia
“There is a much deeper connection on record with Hillary Clinton and Russia than we are presently aware of with Donald Trump.

Hillary Clinton did quite well strategically to draw a connection between Trump and Russia because she has so many connections of her own. There is no substantial connection [between Trump and Russia].

There is an extremely well-documented pattern of when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, those people, companies, governments, who wanted a decision by the secretary of state in their favor, made large donations to the Clinton Foundation or in some other cases made business deals with people around Hillary Clinton.

One particular instance is the approval by Secretary Clinton of selling 20 percent of the US-Iranian reprocessing rights to a Russian company to be exported to Russia. At that time, a large donation was made by those Russian interests to the Clinton foundation.”

Quote:

WikiLeaks Founder Promises More Clinton Emails, Dems Fear 'October Surprise'
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has promised to release more damning emails regarding the Clinton Foundation, and many Democrats are fearing it could lead to an "October surprise" for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Assange has been saying for some time that he has more emails that he will release before Election Day, but in a new interview with RT, he gave some hints at what information those emails might contain.

In particular, Assange mentioned the ties between Clinton and Sauda Arabia.

"Saudi Arabia is probably the largest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, and you can see Clinton’s arms export policies when she was a secretary of state favoring extensively Saudi Arabia," Assange said.

He also suggested Clinton had a reason for attacking rival Donald Trump over his ties to Russia: She has her own ties she's trying to conceal.

“There is a much deeper connection on record with Hillary Clinton and Russia than we are presently aware of with Donald Trump," Assange said. "Hillary Clinton did quite well strategically to draw a connection between Trump and Russia because she has so many connections of her own."

Politico reported that top Democratic officials see these emails leaks as one of several curveballs that could swing the election in favor of Trump.

“We may be headed into uncharted waters, and this has the potential to spiral out of control,” longtime Democratic operative Jim Manley said.

[TravelerKai]

October is too late in my opinion. If they are trying to ensure voters won't forget or allow Clinton time to weasel out, that's silly. If anything it makes it harder for congress or whoever has the balls to charge her with anything time to get her. If anything it takes damn near a month for low information voters to catch up. Took my own dad a couple weeks to actually ask me something about the last batch of emails.

Attempting to last minute spoil the election, like a last minute 3 point basketball shot, may not be well received by even those sympathetic to Wikileaks causes as well. Some folks may not even believe what is released because it will look very motive driven and not ginuwine. It's not like they are cleaning up SSN and credit card numbers. Looks very try hard and amateur hour.

[Dr. Howard]

(08-07-2016 03:16 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

October is too late in my opinion. If they are trying to ensure voters won't forget or allow Clinton time to weasel out, that's silly. If anything it makes it harder for congress or whoever has the balls to charge her with anything time to get her. If anything it takes damn near a month for low information voters to catch up. Took my own dad a couple weeks to actually ask me something about the last batch of emails.

Attempting to last minute spoil the election, like a last minute 3 point basketball shot, may not be well received by even those sympathetic to Wikileaks causes as well. Some folks may not even believe what is released because it will look very motive driven and not ginuwine. It's not like they are cleaning up SSN and credit card numbers. Looks very try hard and amateur hour.

I agree October isn't great. September 11 would be a good day to release it, especially if there is more saudi connection dirt in there.

[Praetor Lupus]

Can you imagine anyone in the GOP trying that shit with Trump?

[eradicator]

(08-07-2016 03:16 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

October is too late in my opinion. If they are trying to ensure voters won't forget or allow Clinton time to weasel out, that's silly. If anything it makes it harder for congress or whoever has the balls to charge her with anything time to get her. If anything it takes damn near a month for low information voters to catch up. Took my own dad a couple weeks to actually ask me something about the last batch of emails.

Attempting to last minute spoil the election, like a last minute 3 point basketball shot, may not be well received by even those sympathetic to Wikileaks causes as well. Some folks may not even believe what is released because it will look very motive driven and not ginuwine. It's not like they are cleaning up SSN and credit card numbers. Looks very try hard and amateur hour.

If the next round of wikileaks are released now, Trump won't do anything with it, too cheap to make any commercials out of it. He would mention it on twitter, which 99% of voters will not read. I guess the idea is that unloading the emails right before the debates won't give Hillary much time to respond to them. Right now her only reaction is "I never read them, haven't heard about it".

Quote:

Can you imagine anyone in the GOP trying that shit with Trump?

They would send goons to do the work, but Trump has security so I don't think he has to worry. Bernie probably had no security detail at the time because he was out of the race.

[911]

Budoslavic, there is an important error in your second large quote:

Quote:

One particular instance is the approval by Secretary Clinton of selling 20 percent of the US-URANIUM reprocessing rights to a Russian company to be exported to Russia. At that time, a large donation was made by those Russian interests to the Clinton foundation.”

Should read uranium, not Iranian... Whoever transcribed it made a mistake, it changes the whole meaning of that incident.

[TravelerKai]

(08-07-2016 09:10 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 03:16 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

October is too late in my opinion. If they are trying to ensure voters won't forget or allow Clinton time to weasel out, that's silly. If anything it makes it harder for congress or whoever has the balls to charge her with anything time to get her. If anything it takes damn near a month for low information voters to catch up. Took my own dad a couple weeks to actually ask me something about the last batch of emails.

Attempting to last minute spoil the election, like a last minute 3 point basketball shot, may not be well received by even those sympathetic to Wikileaks causes as well. Some folks may not even believe what is released because it will look very motive driven and not ginuwine. It's not like they are cleaning up SSN and credit card numbers. Looks very try hard and amateur hour.

If the next round of wikileaks are released now, Trump won't do anything with it, too cheap to make any commercials out of it. He would mention it on twitter, which 99% of voters will not read. I guess the idea is that unloading the emails right before the debates won't give Hillary much time to respond to them. Right now her only reaction is "I never read them, haven't heard about it".

Quote:

Can you imagine anyone in the GOP trying that shit with Trump?

They would send goons to do the work, but Trump has security so I don't think he has to worry. Bernie probably had no security detail at the time because he was out of the race.

Whether or not he uses it as debate fodder doesn't matter if it is released a couple weeks before voting day on Nov 4! It takes time. A LOT of time for stuff to sink into the heads of low information voters. Not everyone lives at a computer and even then, lots are not savvy enough to keep up with this stuff.

Julian comes from a country where people are almost the complete opposite. He does not understand American Political culture at all. I bet there are literally thousands in this country right now that have not heard anything about those first rounds of emails, until this week alone. There could easily be 10M+ that still do not know about it.

My buddy just came back yesterday from an offshore platform. I would bet you he does not know about them and he is the type to stay very up to date on politics and economics. I know I will have to go fill him in today when I go see him.

One of the reasons why our founding fathers chose this style of governance, was not just because the speed of information was too slow (pre telegrams) to get word out to people. One of the other reasons was because of lifestyle. Most were farmers and had other pursuits outside of government and that is where some of the Libertarian concepts of limited government comes from. They thought the Parliamentary system turned-over too quickly and was too involved in a sense.

As a result it really should not shock people here when you come across a person that is absolutely clueless about what is going on. It's just part of the culture here. I bet if I had enough time today I could find someone off the street that does not even know who the candidates are right now.

None of us can change Julian's mind, but I think it will not have the effect of preventing many from voting for that monster, on his intel alone, because of his plans to dump it too late. If he dumps proof she is involved in a conspiracy to commit murder or other treasonous acts, and she somehow still wins the election, remember this post. In American politics, momentum is always king.

[budoslavic]

(08-07-2016 11:53 PM)911 Wrote:  

Budoslavic, there is an important error in your second large quote:

Quote:

One particular instance is the approval by Secretary Clinton of selling 20 percent of the US-URANIUM reprocessing rights to a Russian company to be exported to Russia. At that time, a large donation was made by those Russian interests to the Clinton foundation.”

Should read uranium, not Iranian... Whoever transcribed it made a mistake, it changes the whole meaning of that incident.

@911, I noticed the use of the hyphen (i.e., "US-Iranian") between the two countries so this should be correct. Otherwise, it would have been written as "US Uranium" without the hyphen.

But you may be right. Whoever transcribed everything from the video may have made a mistake especially when you take into consideration by listening to someone who has a strong European accent.

[CynicalContrarian]

@wikileaks

ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks has decided to issue a US$20k reward for information leading to conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.

[TravelerKai]

(08-09-2016 11:04 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

@wikileaks

ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks has decided to issue a US$20k reward for information leading to conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.

That's ridiculous. They better come with something better than that. 20K isn't worth anyone's life when messing with powerful forces in the world. TMZ could probably solve the murder with their 100K rewards, but they only give a shit about celebrity/sports gossip etc.