[LEMONed IScream]

That info on Japan does not seem accurate (not all of it, surely part is true). But then again they don't quite have much of an Islamic population or had too many relevant problems yet. If they do, they'll probably just enact any repressive regulation they can to end the problem and be done with it.

[budoslavic]

(08-19-2016 09:51 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

That info on Japan does not seem accurate (not all of it, surely part is true). But then again they don't quite have much of an Islamic population or had too many relevant problems yet. If they do, they'll probably just enact any repressive regulation they can to end the problem and be done with it.

I think you are right. I recently double checked to see if it was a hoax, which I think it was.

[El Chinito loco]

(08-19-2016 09:51 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

If they do, they'll probably just enact any repressive regulation they can to end the problem and be done with it.

I think you mean patriotic and ethnically conscious regulation to preserve their culture and the freedom of their people.

[Phoenix]

I've recently taken up reading the Koran, I plan to post a review when I'm done. The contrast between it and the bible though is very telling. The bible starts off talking about how god made the world, the Koran starts off immediately admonishing the nonbelievers and how they will receive "a painful punishment". That tone and that language has continued page after page for the first 10 pages.

So basically so far there is zero cause for surprise that the muslims behave as they do.

(08-20-2016 12:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

I think you mean patriotic and ethnically conscious regulation to preserve their culture and the freedom of their people.

I'm not sure I'd call them a "free people" . The Office is their mosque and Senpai their muhammed.

[Hannibal]

(08-18-2016 02:31 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

What if, just what if there was no Israeli state and the West left the Arabs alone? Would there be a 'Muslim' problem?

The United States has a Navy because the Moslems waged war on us without even knowing who we are.

As long as there are non Muslims and Muslims, there will be a "Muslim problem".

[Pride male]

(08-20-2016 01:31 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I've recently taken up reading the Koran, I plan to post a review when I'm done. The contrast between it and the bible though is very telling. The bible starts off talking about how god made the world, the Koran starts off immediately admonishing the nonbelievers and how they will receive "a painful punishment". That tone and that language has continued page after page for the first 10 pages.

So basically so far there is zero cause for surprise that the muslims behave as they do.

(08-20-2016 12:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

I think you mean patriotic and ethnically conscious regulation to preserve their culture and the freedom of their people.

I'm not sure I'd call them a "free people" . The Office is their mosque and Senpai their muhammed.

i wait patiently for your review. I tried reading the Koran but it was like watching paint dry.

[LEMONed IScream]

Just because I said repressive it does not mean I gave it a certain connotation. It can be repressive towards one group and positive towards another. False dilemma.

(08-20-2016 12:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(08-19-2016 09:51 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

If they do, they'll probably just enact any repressive regulation they can to end the problem and be done with it.

I think you mean patriotic and ethnically conscious regulation to preserve their culture and the freedom of their people.

[RexImperator]

Rape of women captured in war is halal.

[Wreckingball]

(09-05-2016 05:14 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Rape of women halal.

Fixed that one for ya

[911]

(08-20-2016 01:46 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 02:31 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

What if, just what if there was no Israeli state and the West left the Arabs alone? Would there be a 'Muslim' problem?

The United States has a Navy because the Moslems waged war on us without even knowing who we are.

As long as there are non Muslims and Muslims, there will be a "Muslim problem".

If you look more closely though, the "Muslim problem" started when there became a need to replace the Soviet-backed "Communist problem". There was no "Muslim problem" in 1970.

[Horus]

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If you look more closely though, the "Muslim problem" started when there became a need to replace the Soviet-backed "Communist problem". There was no "Muslim problem" in 1970.

Actually, the Muslim problem began in the 7th century AD.

[Samseau]

(09-12-2016 03:21 AM)Horus Wrote:  

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If you look more closely though, the "Muslim problem" started when there became a need to replace the Soviet-backed "Communist problem". There was no "Muslim problem" in 1970.

Actually, the Muslim problem began in the 7th century AD.

It was only temporarily suppressed after WW1. The Ottoman Empire sent in millions of troops into the European meatgrinder and the incredible loss of life not only crushed England and France, but the Ottomans as well.

After the Ottomans, Ataturk and many other secular dictators took power over the Islamic countries and suppressed the Koran and Jihad. But starting with Bush, we have been overthrowing these dictators and unleashing the evil genie out from the bottle and now we have to deal with the old horrors of Islam again.

[komatiite]

I was thinking about the strange rise of Radical Conservative Islam recently too, why is the reglion so conservative now?

When Trump got everyone in the media all riled up when he said "Take the oil" during the Matt Lauer forum, I sort of thought "aren't they just taking back the oil?" Western companies made those discoveries in Iraq, Iran, Saudi, etc. But the US government willingly let the Muslims nationalize their reserves and production in the 50s to the 70s, allowing the Wahhabi Saudis to fund the growth of their sect across the globe. Why don't they simply crush them and take control back if the goal is to cripple Radical Islam?

On one hand, you raise all sorts of questions on morality and ethics regarding taking control of the resources of sovereign nations.

On the other hand, most of these countries still need Western technology and knowledge to exploit petroleum reserves. I know a guy in a high level position at Aramco and he said the actual Saudi workers are total retards and all major discoveries and production efforts are led by Western engineers and geoscientists, with a few Chinese guys as well. Look at Iraq's fields, all operated by foreign companies (USA, Angola, China, Russia):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleu...ry_in_Iraq
The technologically adept foreign entities do all the work, and the governments just rake it in for the good fortune of sitting on these reserves.

Why is the USA enabling these countries to find Islamist groups with oil money? It does make you wonder if this is some Elitist maneuver to promote the growth and spread of Islam to promote instability. But maybe that's just my tinfoil hat speaking?

[Sextus Empiricus]

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I was thinking about the strange rise of Radical Conservative Islam recently too, why is the reglion so conservative now?

Blame Saudi Arabia. The whole country was created from an alliance between the Saud royal family and the Wahhabi sect of Islam, a conservative hardline sect that advocates a literal reading of the Koran. Since then, as Saudi Arabia's gotten rich off of oil, they've pumped billions of dollars into opening mosques and madrassas (islamic schools) around the world that teach their own conservative islamic ideology.

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Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.

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Islamic charities from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates financed a network in U.S. ally Pakistan that recruited children as young as eight to wage holy war, a local newspaper reported on Sunday, citing Wikileaks.

A U.S. diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks said financial support estimated at $100 million a year was making its way from those Gulf Arab states to a jihadist recruitment network in Pakistan's Punjab province, Dawn newspaper reported.

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..in India alone, from 2011 to 2013, some 25,000 Saudi clerics arrived bearing more than $250 million to build mosques and universities and hold seminars...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakist...ER20110522

http://annaqed.com/en/terrorism/saudi-ar...heofascism

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/....html?_r=0

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affair...-terrorism

https://www.ft.com/content/d807f15a-7db0...74e#slide0

[Lucky]

Here is a typical empty-calorie article from LA Times

#AfterSeptember11 shares heartbreaking stories of racism, prejudice and pain

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Sept. 11 is a painful day, when America is reminded of attacks on innocent people.

But for some Americans, attacks continue.

Those people are now telling their stories, with the #AfterSeptember11 hashtag. It’s a collection of more than 50,000 heartbreaking accounts of people who say they were targeted for being Muslim – or often, just for having brown skin.

[...]

“It’s exhausting, insulting, and dehumanizing trying to modify our cultures or religions to appease ignorance, fear, and prejudice,” she continued.

“And our communities are going to use our God-given voices to announce that.”

Yet again, yet always, Western culture is expected to always accommodate everyone, never asking these 7th century primitives to change themselves.

But if we accept that religion is based in large part on "ignorance, fear, and prejudice" which in my view it is (especially Islam), then wouldn't that woman's comment that it is "exhausting, insulting, and dehumanizing trying to modify our cultures" apply to Western society modifying to appease Islam?

Is it not true that it is exhausting, insulting, and dehumanizing for Western society to modify itself to appease the ignorance, fear, and prejudice on which Islam is based?

[komatiite]

Edit, reply to Sextus Inpericus not Lucky.

^ Yes that is obvious, but think deeply, and ask why the US and Europe has enabled this by giving them the keys to the oil infrastructure that they built? It's not easy to discover, produce and get oil to market, it takes solid scientific training. The Saudis are blessed to sit on the easiest to produce oil reserves on Earth, they have these beautiful carbonate reservoirs.

To me there are two options, deliberate or accidental:

1) Elites want to see the disorder caused by rising Islamism in the West funded by Saudi Arabia, which has long term implications on the health of an established Western style democracy when you have Jihadists causing all sorts of bullshit. A fearful population is an easy to control population.

2) Loyalty: during the Cold War, the Saudis were an American ally as Communism spread through the world. The Kingdom showed loyalty to the Americans and as the British began to pull out of their colonial holdings, the Americans allowed for more Saudi control of their own resources as an act of goodwill with the hope that the Saudis would act in American interests with their newfound wealth and power in the region. A military relationship formed with American sales of weapons to their Saudi allies, and we even saw the Saudis in the same side as the Americans in the Persian Gulf War in the 90s. This backfired because giving a country with an average IQ of 83 and a psychopathic sect of Islam the lowest-margin oil reserves in the world has bankrolled the rise of Islam we see today.

Are there any other scenarios? Second one is more plausible but first one is fair game now that I have been red pilled regarding elitist puppet masters...

[RexImperator]

"Democracy is the train we ride to our final destination..."

[PharaohRa]

(09-12-2016 03:21 AM)Horus Wrote:  

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If you look more closely though, the "Muslim problem" started when there became a need to replace the Soviet-backed "Communist problem". There was no "Muslim problem" in 1970.

Actually, the Muslim problem began in the 7th century AD.

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