[RexImperator]

From Rockin' Mr. E:

1. Gothic invasion of Roman Empire
2. Lutheranism and the 30 Years' War
3. Karl Marx, Communism
4. WW2
5. Current EU crisis

Granted this guy has some Greek heritage, so he might have some personal bias.

[porscheguy]

(06-12-2016 10:22 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

From Mr. Rockin' E:

1. Gothic invasion of Roman Empire
2. Lutheranism and the 30 Years' War
3. Karl Marx, Communism
4. WW2
5. Current EU crisis
Granted this guy has some Greek heritage, so he might have some personal bias.

1. How many years did the Romans spend trying to conquer the Germans/Goths/etc?
2. The Papacy was every bit as crooked and corrupt back then, as they are now.
3. Judaism.
4. WW2 happened because the Euro nations in WW1 were led by a bunch of inbred fucking cunts who thought that war among each other was something you played at to entertain the aristocracy, and thin out the breeding age males. France was a defeated nation, and allowed to dictate terms to Germany. WTF? WW2 is what happened as a result of not finishing WW1 properly.
5. The current crisis stems from a combination of Judaism and German collective war guilt. You think the US has been repeatedly beaten in our heads about the Holocaust? We got nothing on the average German. They're so weak-willed and broken at this point, I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be more merciful to open the floodgates fully and let the invaders put them out of their misery.

It may seem like Germany is at the center of many conflicts, but Germany is at the center of Europe. So anything that happens there is going to involve them in some way.

[RexImperator]

I gave a quick outline but you should watch the video as he addresses some of your points.

[N°6]

Ever since the fall of Rome, the natural balance of power in Europe has been Germanic. Remember the French (the Francs) which were the super power of Europe during the Crusader era were Germanic.

Your listing of WW2 without WW1 or even the Franco-Prussian War of 1878 and the Austrian - Prussian War betrays your lack of knowledge in this area but Prussia defeating Austria and France unified Germany and brought the actual balance of power to Germany and away from France.

When Churchill was clambering for war prior to WW1 to smash Prussian militarism and to protect 'poor little Belgium' (which was the convenient Kuwait of the time) he could have looked at Prussia's military record in the previous 100 years which was very modest compared to that of the UK's. Even though the Second Reich was the real target of the British Empire whose industry and navy was challenging the Empire's, the Kaiser's army was the last to mobilise for war.

You may wish to look into King Edward VII during his long spell of Prince of Wales during Queen Victoria's reign, already planning for the inevitable war with Germany.

[RexImperator]

Quote:

Your listing of WW2 without WW1 or even the Franco-Prussian War of 1878 and the Austrian - Prussian War betrays your lack of knowledge in this area but Prussia defeating Austria and France unified Germany and brought the actual balance of power to Germany and away from France.

It's not my video, and I did simplify his points slightly for brevity.

[PowerGame]

As the dalai lama said untersberg is the heart Chakra of Europe so is Germany the beating heart of Europe, that's why it always was kept divided unlike the other European nations.

Germany wasn't totally united, ever.(if you don't count in a short duration during ww2) Germans always felt like they are not acknowledged for their achievements.

But still German areas were often the first trendsetters in kinds of technology, philosophy, art or music. But this also counts for the negative achievements like fascism.

In ww1 the German royalty was diplomatically divided and the only royal family that was not known for cooperating with secret societies as far as I know. Because of the emotions towards ww1 and the disregard for human life ww2 happened.


And most royal families during ww1 were relatives. For example Wilhelm II., Nikolaus II. And George V were cousins.

Without Germany there would have been different wars from other nations who controlled the envied middle of Europe.. Which by the way always made it easier to produce and raise the population than elsewhere (the German population used to be the biggest by a far amount in Europe before the world wars and even some time after ) and they were a huge amount of settlers, a lot of Americans have German heritage, but lost their culture because the language and culture was forbidden during ww2. That's a theme that is not often remembered, more people than from other " real" empires. For example trump is as I know of German heritage.

And as I recall Judaism thinks Germany and german heritage is "Amalek". Before the zionism controlled the sovjet union it controlled the British Empire, and now it has huge power over the USA and Germany which is still strongly controlled by the USA.

And Greek people should feel like they are on the same side as Germans it's like the Greek dominating culture was replaced by the German culture in Greek shoes (Roman Empire was great, but still a copycat of ancient Greece, although its might was of a different kind without city-states) and after hundreds of years neighboring the Ottoman Empire or the turks Greek lost not just a lot of land.

[Parzival]

He make it sound like the Goths just invaded Rome for the sake of destruction. What about the Huns that did push from the east? Also why should Germanic tribes accept a Roman lifestyle? Just because we see it now maybe as superior? Rome was an Empire with wealth and of course the Germany tribes want to have their piece of it. Like the Arabs and Africans now want a piece of Europe. A wealthy tribe was always under pressure from other tribes.

The 30 years war and the conflict from Luther was never meant to grow on that scale. Many European powers had be involved to gain their piece out of it. It was a power game of foreign powers not a German rebellion against Rome. Karl Marx and Communism maybe invented in Germany but it did rise in different countries. Like ethical cleaning was also a common thing among Caucasian people in the USA, England and so one. So race purity was also not a pure German thing. There had be many different ideas and fascism did not rise in Germany, Germans just did adapt it to their own way.

He say German nationalism and not accepting other powers is the root of bad things. I say its the lack of Nationalism. Before 1871 Germany was divide. We could not develop national pride like other countries, could not develop a social citizen class. We just had this image of a united German nation. And this image got bigger and bigger. Then after the unification there had be a new player in Europe. The old powers did not want to share what they had so Germany had to become pushy. Even to much pushy. It all lead to World War I where all European powers did want the war out of pride and nationalism. Germany then lost and got a hard punishment. No fair treatment and everyone that is threaten unfair will seek revenge. This lead to Hitler and never ever forget, that the UK and France did declare war to Germany. They also did not declare war to the Sowjets when they invade Poland but declare war on Germany for the same reason.

After the war, the EU was not a German idea. When you look at the history of the organisations before the EU, they where all made up to keep Germany down, prevent them from be independent and with the re education it was the main goal to wipe out German nationalism. People try so hard to wipe out German nationalism because they don't want to give Germany whats natural for every other country in the world. Out of this pushing Germany down rise of course a counter movement of extremes. Germans is not big super power like the USA, Russia or China but still not a small country that can slip away. We are in the middle and need the balance of the other European countries. The EU crisis and the Migrant invasion and the reactions of Germany are reactions that came out of the strange mix of not be balanced with pride of nationalism and the pride to be a very effective nation. Its like when you are the best player on the field but you can never dare to be proud of it. This lead to mental problems.

[Irenicus]

In all honesty, I can't agree with all of these statements.


First thing, you can't really compare the modern Germans with Germanic tribes, because many European nations are direct descendants of these tribes - English, Spanish, French, Northern Italians... .

As far as Goths are concerned, their only direct descendants are...Spanish, and not Germans! After the Western Roman Empire fell, they created their state in modern day Spain. Now, since they were the minority of the population, they eventually were assimilated by the local Roman population, and they lost they language, and eventually religion (they were Arian Christians originally). When the Arabs invaded, they were driven up north, where the Reconquista (lit. the Recapturing) began under the local Goth nobleman Pelayo (or Pelagius). The rest, they say, is history.

Therefore, the first point is moot - Goths have nothing to do with modern Germans.



The second point is half truth. Many tend to forget that the Church was notoriously corrupt during the Middle Ages, and that the Protestantism in general was some kind of rebellion against that, amongst many nations. Not only Germans (Luther) rebelled, but many others, as well, in other parts of Europe (Hungary, Bohemia...). And you really cannot blame the Germans for the 30 Year War - too many parties


Therefore, the second point is moot - not only the Germans are to be "blamed" for the Reformation - the Swiss (Calvin), Hungarians ( can't recall), Czech (Jan Huss) should as well. Especially the Catholic Church (which came to it's senses eventually).



The third point concerning Marx and Communism is, unfortunately, true. Marx (whose father was a former Jew, and Karl himself was not a fan) would never have risen to prominence if he did not get $$$ and assistance from Friedrich Engels (100% German, from a noble family). So, unfortunately, Communism is a German invention (not Jewish as some here claim, but Jews indeed helped spread it, due to reasons Roosh in his article mentioned).


Therefore, the third point stands.



The true culprit of WW2 were the victors of WW1, who literally accused and punished Germany as a party who started WW1, which is not true (in fact, Serbia, their puppet, murdered our Austro Hungarian Prince in cold blood). That unfair treatment led Hitler to power, and the rest we know.


Therefore, the fourth point does stand, because Germany was humiliated, and Hitler was literally the only one who would bring back their lost honor, regardless of cost. But he was too crazy. Now, if Germany was treated more fairly, WW2 would probably never have had happened.



I will not comment the fifth one, because I am not that familiar with how the fascists in the EU organization operate. But I tend to blame the Regressives, which come from many nations, and many tribes.

[Foolsgo1d]

Barbarians in Roman times have nothing to do with today really. They were troublemakers because they were keen on conquest amongst each other and opportunists. The only way to control them was tribute but even that failed as idle hands made Rome pay dearly.

Germany today and the previous 3 centuries has involved industrial, economic and work ethic ability. When you think of Germany you think of precision, engineering, sexual deviancy and shit getting done.

Germans and Europeans on the mainland think as one and to an extent, get along with each other. Its hard to explain to outsiders how Europeans think, especially Americans how British people don't feel European and distance themselves culturally and socially.

When I think of Germany today I think of control. Afterall, they did kick up a fight twice on this continent and dragged the whole world along and where military might failed, the federal state succeeded.

Think of the EU as you'd think of Rome. You have one central state (Brussels) and tribute states who are in the same boat and can be called allies but they tend to be troublemakers (England - not Britain, Greece, Eastern Bloc, Norway) and the real troublemakers - foreign imports from third world countries.

Sound familiar?

Germany today is a perfect example of the brutal life going by the wayside and investing those energies into the economy, private companies, culture engineering and private life. Whilst the British rely on the City of London and the English language, Germany has forged ahead and became the man of Europe with all the answers.

Work together, live together and combine efforts to a common goal. The EU is a symptom of this thinking. The EU wants to do away with the nation state and individual militaries and create a single European nation with little deviation except for language and culture differences which in their mind, are not important enough to override a single European trajectory.

The closest I can think of when looking at all of this is some science fiction novel where machines are forcing man to cooperate on everything and see things as they do - or else.

Britain is already facing stern "repercussions" if it has the gal to leave such a project of harmony. At the centre of all of this is Germany who see the British as the number 1 challenger to its sphere of influence and if we defy them a third time? Well, lets see what happens shall we?

[redpillage]

My opinion: WHATEVER....



Meanwhile radical Muslims are raping our women and our children when they're not busy committing attacks against our way of life.

I mean seriously? We have much bigger issues to worry about. Instead of spending time debating stuff like this you're better off preparing for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.

[Parzival]

(06-13-2016 05:08 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

My opinion: WHATEVER....



Meanwhile radical Muslims are raping our women and our children when they're not busy committing attacks against our way of life.

I mean seriously? We have much bigger issues to worry about. Instead of spending time debating stuff like this you're better off preparing for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.

True words to this intellectual stuff. We face an invasion that will not only rip Europe apart, it will wipe us out. And this guy complain about Germans because he seems to be still angry about the - wrong - treatment of Greece. Meanwhile his streets burn and his women are in danger and same counts for every nation in Europe.

[El Chinito loco]

(06-13-2016 05:27 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

True words to this intellectual stuff. We face an invasion that will not only rip Europe apart, it will wipe us out. And this guy complain about Germans because he seems to be still angry about the - wrong - treatment of Greece. Meanwhile his streets burn and his women are in danger and same counts for every nation in Europe.

Completely agree.

The standard European reaction on the ground is literally rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks.

Debating historical minutiae on who or what people were the greatest purveyors of modern western civilization while hoards of muslims from the third world are pouring in is over the top irony.

This is why angry nerd shit like 1488 fails so hard. People are too concerned with legacy and "purity" without acting. All this talk is nothing without action. Historical legacy is nothing while some muslim invader has your sisters bent over a park bench in the present day.

[RexImperator]

I think his video raises some interesting ideas but overall the analysis is too simplified and leaves too many things out (French Revolution, Napoleon, Ottoman invasion).

Sometimes the problem had been German strength and at other times the problem has been German weakness.

The geographic location of the Germans in central Europe has meant that other powers on the periphery have had the ability and incentive to gang up against them.

NATO was designed in part to keep the Germans in check but it looks like things have gone too far in terms of making the European military weak and overly dependent on the USA.

The original idea of the European Coal and Steel Community, later the Common Market, was not a bad one but the integrationists have gone too far with the EU. It's also been poisoned with cultural Marxism.