Quote: (07-30-2016 06:11 PM)whoishe Wrote:
Quote: (07-29-2016 04:02 PM)Rocha Wrote:
^^^ In Fashion Club I assume the girl is from Lviv. Never been myself, but believe that there is another kind of mentality on zapad Ukraina, I have met some girls from that part of the country in Kiev and all of them seemed to try hard to have a a western european attitude.
Quote: (07-29-2016 06:50 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Note: I believe that this kind of behaviour from Western Ukranians started to occur post Maidan to show off to foreigners (specially EU citizens like myself) how westernized and similar they are.
I don't remember disagreeing with you before on Ukrainian stuff and I don't have a reason to not believe you on 1st paragraph... but 2nd one really seems like a stretch to me.
I am yet to meet this rapidly westernized girls in Western Ukraine among standard 6-8 group. Maybe it's because I only meet girls through social circle, maybe not, not sure.
Based on what local guys tells me there - Western Ukraine girls are less attractive on average comparing to their Eastern sisters (which confirms what was written many times here), but they are better candidates on average for LTR. Difficult to see it in case western mentality would be icnreasing among them significantly more than in other part of Ukraine.
Quote: (07-29-2016 06:50 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Not trying to make a case whether they are similar or not genetically, culturally and mentally, just my experience speaking, and I found some differences between West and East. Once I dumped a chick from Lviv in the middle of a date after she interfered in my negotiation with the taxi driver, because she was saying I was beeing stingy and should accept the 100 grvn fare, that is something only a girl from western Ukraine would do.
And this one just sounds bizarre in a funny way, even if it's even a bigger stretch than before. The only time I was being accused of being stingy in Lviv was done by babushka selling flowers because I didn't want to buy many more of them (or just full collection)
And no, I don't throw away cash left and right when going out.
Also do not remember disagreeing with you))
First let me just reeinforce two points:
- I speak only and only from my personal experience
- Never been to western Ukraine
Now, in the first quote what I said (or meant to say) is not that they are westernizing in the sense people speak in here, eg. tattoos, career's, flaking, carrousel- riding, sjw...etc. But I observed some behaviours that are more present in matriarchal societies where there is more equality in men vs. women relations, this may be due to the large presence of the Catholic church (Greek rite), as opposed to the east where the rule is orthodox or atheist. Though I have to go there to check it out, and make some better constructed observations.
In the second quote, yes, I believe that Western Ukranians try hard to pass by more "european" or westernized as their eastern countryman (no wonder the Donbass conflict). They where the major fools/tools behind the revolution, but this is my political perspective and will not elaborate here due to fear of derailing this thread.
On the third quote, I did not said (or meant to) that eastern girls make better LTR's or are less money oriented. I meant to say that know better their place when a man is doing business or whatever thing with a third party. That does not mean an eastern girl will not try to milk you later )) but she will milk a guy on her behalf, not for some shady taxi driver, just because he is ukranian and you are a "stingy" foreigner.
Edit: Up until now, only western ukrainian girls insisted on speaking in english language with me.