This could be a straight from the Internet and to your Home situation, or it could be a Date/Day 2 situation.
Pre Amble - Old chicks (24 and up) vs Young Chicks (23 and younger)
I don't deal with the 18-23 set at all. As the god Moma would say, I'll take a lay up, but I'm not actively looking for that.
I like em 24+.
One of the advantages to young girls, especially when they deal with young guys, are down for all of that, "let's hang out", "we'll watch netflix". Even a few years later, some of them chicks have low expectations and are still cool with the whole "hook up culture"
In my experience, once they get out of the teenage/college years, they expect a guy to put more effort into the date. This is where all that beta stuff comes in.
All that means is you've got to use more psychology. Doesn't mean you need to come out the pocket.
My dirty little secret is that I actually like women and I like dates. What a lot of guys see as pointless, I see as a chance to evaluate the chick. A couple entrees, dranks, and a shared dessert tells me a lot about whether I want to spend any more time with a chick. More so than if we just got dranks. (sort of like the "time distortion" concept of bouncing a chick from venue to venue)
But once she passed my smell test, and she's coming through to watch a movie, that's when it's time to get serious.
1. Based on my past dealings with the chick
a. Is she really DTF? - I know this based on the tenor and frequency of the texting before hand (What, you're only sending short logistical texts? get your text game up). I will play the movie game differently.
b. If she's on the fence, how "hip to the game" is she? Some girls have been to enough rodeos that they know when you're trying to stack the deck when you ask her over. She doesn't want to have sex tonight, but she probably shaved her legs just in case. (lol)
If she's trying to hold out and prove that she's a good girl I use a different movie strategy (which means, she's put me in the boyfriend category, which is actually a problem with the fact that I use dates to evaluate chicks and she's probably aware of that...everything is connected)
2. Movie selection
- DTF Girl? - Go with something that's entertaining ..enough...but not so engrossing or so boring as to kill the sexual vibe.
- On the Fence - Movies that provoke visceral reactions.
a) horror- so she can bury her head into your shoulders
b) suspense - so she can grab your hand.
c) comedy - roller coaster of emotions
Chicks are much easier to get at when they go through these emotions.
I don't recommend
- art films
- documentaries
- science fiction/fantasy - anything where you need to explain what is happening. Why? For me, I can't contain my disgust when a chick asks me "what just happened" even though the both of us have been watching the same movie and neither of us have left. It means she's incapable of handling basic shit. Took a chick to see Avengers, Why Jah, Why did I do such a thing. And when I *cringe* at her dumbness, she notices, feels bad, no longer wants to bang. (for me a better long term solution would be to not react....but I kind of think of my emotional honest as a way to soft next a chick)
What about Romance and Rom-Coms?
If it's raunchy, yes.
If it's a tearjerker, undying love, save that for your Main, or when you've turned this prospective chick into a main chick.
One last thing
Mining Nostalgia
If I rock with a chick closer to my age, I can throw on Love Jonez, Brown Sugar, Love and Basketball, and get her into a mindspace that recalls her youth. (white girls loved Grease for whatever reason. Blood In, Blood out never worked on Mexicanas, but Selena did)
Using nostalgia is a great way to dig deeper into the brain, make connections, get comfort and rapport....
You need a fair bit of edge and keeping your frame to stop this from turning into a friend situation, a love situation. But touching on it, and then getting her to focus on fun, youth, etc can be very fruitful.
For me, the ideal situation post bang, is that she wants to keep fucking you, but is sure you aren't boyfriend material. Because it's very easy to become boyfriend material on your end.
So if you want to mess with this, figure out what was popular with chicks her age when they were in middle and high school.
3) The Set Up
- shoes at the door
- house smelling good
- bathroom spotless for the pre-bang pussywipe
- stocked with toilet paper (and contact solution in medicine cabinet, under the sink)
- candles, incense, lube, massage oil, and condoms on standby
Would I be the kind of guy to have a bunch of stuff in the arm chair so she can only sit next to me on the couch?
Am I the sort of guy that has small cushions on my couch in case the bj pops off?
I wouldn't be the dude that has no clocks or blinking cable box showing the time, would I?
Would I put anything suggestive on the coffee table?
I wouldn't display anything interesting on the book shelf?
She can't see the wine bottle from the couch, or notice any of that stuff when she comes in?
It's up to you, but if you have your own place, think through what people normally do when they come over.
You want to make her feel comfortable, and you don't want the part of her that's fighting the idea of getting dicked down to latch on to anything. But I also want to demonstrate personality and put things into play.
4) The Sequence
- she knocks on the door
- I get the door
- hug/cheek kiss (break the touch barrier)
- shoes off
- offer libations or snack
- chit chat/small talk/flirting (start the heat again)
- get her seated on the couch
- disappear for a second, let her take in what's around her
- come back, more chit chat, more flirting
- start the movie.
- sit next to her
So if she's DTF, the physical contact can start like you'd normally start.
If she's on the fence, the whole thing is a slow burn.
- lean back, shoulder to shoulder
- let her lean into you
- if you're a jokey kinda guy, do the obvious yawn and your arm over her shoulder. If not, be bold and just put your arm over her shoulder
Basically I wait a little longer before I start physically feeling her out. At a certain point, her body language will relax, and you proceed like the DTF.
5) In terms of the physical
1) 2 steps forward, 1 step back
2) we shouldn't be doing this, but do it anyway
3) Slow boil, plateau, slow boil. I.E tease her
________________________________________________________
That's basically it for me.
What do you guys do?
Where can I improve?
What have I not thought of?
What are some other angles?
WIA
Pre Amble - Old chicks (24 and up) vs Young Chicks (23 and younger)
I don't deal with the 18-23 set at all. As the god Moma would say, I'll take a lay up, but I'm not actively looking for that.
I like em 24+.
One of the advantages to young girls, especially when they deal with young guys, are down for all of that, "let's hang out", "we'll watch netflix". Even a few years later, some of them chicks have low expectations and are still cool with the whole "hook up culture"
In my experience, once they get out of the teenage/college years, they expect a guy to put more effort into the date. This is where all that beta stuff comes in.
All that means is you've got to use more psychology. Doesn't mean you need to come out the pocket.
My dirty little secret is that I actually like women and I like dates. What a lot of guys see as pointless, I see as a chance to evaluate the chick. A couple entrees, dranks, and a shared dessert tells me a lot about whether I want to spend any more time with a chick. More so than if we just got dranks. (sort of like the "time distortion" concept of bouncing a chick from venue to venue)
But once she passed my smell test, and she's coming through to watch a movie, that's when it's time to get serious.
1. Based on my past dealings with the chick
a. Is she really DTF? - I know this based on the tenor and frequency of the texting before hand (What, you're only sending short logistical texts? get your text game up). I will play the movie game differently.
b. If she's on the fence, how "hip to the game" is she? Some girls have been to enough rodeos that they know when you're trying to stack the deck when you ask her over. She doesn't want to have sex tonight, but she probably shaved her legs just in case. (lol)
If she's trying to hold out and prove that she's a good girl I use a different movie strategy (which means, she's put me in the boyfriend category, which is actually a problem with the fact that I use dates to evaluate chicks and she's probably aware of that...everything is connected)
2. Movie selection
- DTF Girl? - Go with something that's entertaining ..enough...but not so engrossing or so boring as to kill the sexual vibe.
- On the Fence - Movies that provoke visceral reactions.
a) horror- so she can bury her head into your shoulders
b) suspense - so she can grab your hand.
c) comedy - roller coaster of emotions
Chicks are much easier to get at when they go through these emotions.
I don't recommend
- art films
- documentaries
- science fiction/fantasy - anything where you need to explain what is happening. Why? For me, I can't contain my disgust when a chick asks me "what just happened" even though the both of us have been watching the same movie and neither of us have left. It means she's incapable of handling basic shit. Took a chick to see Avengers, Why Jah, Why did I do such a thing. And when I *cringe* at her dumbness, she notices, feels bad, no longer wants to bang. (for me a better long term solution would be to not react....but I kind of think of my emotional honest as a way to soft next a chick)
What about Romance and Rom-Coms?
If it's raunchy, yes.
If it's a tearjerker, undying love, save that for your Main, or when you've turned this prospective chick into a main chick.
One last thing
Mining Nostalgia
If I rock with a chick closer to my age, I can throw on Love Jonez, Brown Sugar, Love and Basketball, and get her into a mindspace that recalls her youth. (white girls loved Grease for whatever reason. Blood In, Blood out never worked on Mexicanas, but Selena did)
Using nostalgia is a great way to dig deeper into the brain, make connections, get comfort and rapport....
You need a fair bit of edge and keeping your frame to stop this from turning into a friend situation, a love situation. But touching on it, and then getting her to focus on fun, youth, etc can be very fruitful.
For me, the ideal situation post bang, is that she wants to keep fucking you, but is sure you aren't boyfriend material. Because it's very easy to become boyfriend material on your end.
So if you want to mess with this, figure out what was popular with chicks her age when they were in middle and high school.
3) The Set Up
- shoes at the door
- house smelling good
- bathroom spotless for the pre-bang pussywipe
- stocked with toilet paper (and contact solution in medicine cabinet, under the sink)
- candles, incense, lube, massage oil, and condoms on standby
Would I be the kind of guy to have a bunch of stuff in the arm chair so she can only sit next to me on the couch?
Am I the sort of guy that has small cushions on my couch in case the bj pops off?
I wouldn't be the dude that has no clocks or blinking cable box showing the time, would I?
Would I put anything suggestive on the coffee table?
I wouldn't display anything interesting on the book shelf?
She can't see the wine bottle from the couch, or notice any of that stuff when she comes in?
It's up to you, but if you have your own place, think through what people normally do when they come over.
You want to make her feel comfortable, and you don't want the part of her that's fighting the idea of getting dicked down to latch on to anything. But I also want to demonstrate personality and put things into play.
4) The Sequence
- she knocks on the door
- I get the door
- hug/cheek kiss (break the touch barrier)
- shoes off
- offer libations or snack
- chit chat/small talk/flirting (start the heat again)
- get her seated on the couch
- disappear for a second, let her take in what's around her
- come back, more chit chat, more flirting
- start the movie.
- sit next to her
So if she's DTF, the physical contact can start like you'd normally start.
If she's on the fence, the whole thing is a slow burn.
- lean back, shoulder to shoulder
- let her lean into you
- if you're a jokey kinda guy, do the obvious yawn and your arm over her shoulder. If not, be bold and just put your arm over her shoulder
Basically I wait a little longer before I start physically feeling her out. At a certain point, her body language will relax, and you proceed like the DTF.
5) In terms of the physical
1) 2 steps forward, 1 step back
2) we shouldn't be doing this, but do it anyway
3) Slow boil, plateau, slow boil. I.E tease her
________________________________________________________
That's basically it for me.
What do you guys do?
Where can I improve?
What have I not thought of?
What are some other angles?
WIA
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