[CleanSlate]

I've been out and about doing errands and stuff, when I got an alert that Scalia died.

Damn near dropped my phone.

Then I thought of you guys... "the forum is not going to like this at all"

[Goldin Boy]

(02-13-2016 05:53 PM)Curunír Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 05:48 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

The fat fuck is dead?

Good to hear.

I got 40 post you 3000, but I can tell you that it's unwarranted that you come here rejoice on the death of this man.

Is it triggering you that someone else has a opinion that differs from yours? So what? That's life.

The forum has been leaning conservative the last view years. It's plain as day that the people(in this thread and elsewhere) don't care that Antonin Scalia is dead: They're upset that someone that holds the same political and ideological views as them is no longer in a position of power.

[911Turbo]

(02-13-2016 06:09 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

This is bad. This is really bad.

Even if he died at the beginning of Obama's term it wouldn't be as bad, because SJW'ism wasn't as influential even then, but in his second term he's embraced SJWism full-stop and we know who's holding the reigns of culture.

(02-13-2016 05:53 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

For the US, this is the most significant piece of news this year, by far.

The GOP must use its Senate majority to block any Obama nominee. The stakes are too high.

A progressive/SJW appointment to the Supreme Court would give them a 5-4 majority for the foreseeable future. Ginsburg could live for another decade for all we know. A 5-4 majority (not even counting Anthony Kennedy) means that we are fucked in many ways that matter.

This is going to be the truest test that the Republican Party has faced in decades.

Are they going to roll over or are they actually going to do their damn job and block any SJW-inclined ultra "progressive" nominee?

What fucking bad luck.

Let's apply some game theory here. Chances of the next president being a democrat is higher according to betting sites. 1 to 1.67 odds are given for a democrat president while odds for a republican one are 1 to 2.25.

If Hillary wins the election rest assured she will make a SJW appointment. I think the smartest move the Republican party can make is support a moderate appointment before the elections. Like someone who is similar to Michael Bloomberg. 2 Swing-3 conservative-4 Left will be much better than 1 swing-3 conservative-5 leftie. Do not rule out a democrat president. In the event there are 5 lefties, 3 cons-1 swing we will be fucked for the foreseeble future. The amount of lefties might even increase to 7 during a democrat presidency.

[Emancipator]

Longest SCOTUS confirmation process from nomination to resolution was Brandeis at 125 days Obama has 342 days left in office.

Grabs popcorn, new record incoming

[scorpion]

If Congressional Republicans fold and allow Obama to push through another liberal justice it will obviously be very bad for the country, but will actually help Trump in the polls. It will be a major rallying issue for the right.

Also, even if another liberal makes it on the court, if Trump is elected he could pull an FDR and propose legislation that would reform the Supreme Court. If his public support is high enough, and if he manages to bring in new and fresh Trump Republicans on his coattails in the mid terms of 2018 then something like this could be a real possibility.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(02-13-2016 06:19 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

It's plain as day that the people(in this thread and elsewhere) don't care that Antonin Scalia is dead: They're upset that someone that holds the same political and ideological views as them is no longer in a position of power.

Really? There has to be some sort of a selfish personal motive in the fact that I liked his legal opinions?

[Geomann180]

Did they catch Dick Cheney yet?

G

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

It's kind of sad that the court is divided 5-4 on many important issues, and that people get all worked up about getting someone from their "side" appointed to push things one way or another.
It basically implies that the Supreme Court is made up of partisan hacks who put their own personal ideology first, and any sense of legal objectivity a very distant second.
When I have read some of the opinions, I get the distinct feeling that Justices, both liberal and conservative, decide a case based on their personal prejudices, and then go hunting for whatever bullshit legal sounding justification they can throw together to rationalize it and give the appearance that they have made a reasoned and impartial decision based in the law.

[emuelle1]

Fortunately, FDR's "Court Packing" attempt was shot down. He was pissed when the Supreme Court killed his National Recovery Act.

I had a lot of respect for Scalia. As a conservative, I could always count on him. I had just sat down on my computer and saw the Fox Alert pop up stating that he died.

I suppose this will make the election cycle somewhat more interesting.

(02-13-2016 06:23 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

If Congressional Republicans fold and allow Obama to push through another liberal justice it will obviously be very bad for the country, but will actually help Trump in the polls. It will be a major rallying issue for the right.

Also, even if another liberal makes it on the court, if Trump is elected he could pull an FDR and propose legislation that would reform the Supreme Court. If his public support is high enough, and if he manages to bring in new and fresh Trump Republicans on his coattails in the mid terms of 2018 then something like this could be a real possibility.

[Disco_Volante]

Now Obama can appoint another Marxist dyke who will permanently vote against our freedoms.

The women live longer, he could put a 45 yr old fem dyke on the court and she'll stay there till she's fucking 95 passing anti-male, anti-American, anti-Christian legislation

[rpg]

(02-13-2016 06:19 PM)911Turbo Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 06:09 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

This is bad. This is really bad.

Even if he died at the beginning of Obama's term it wouldn't be as bad, because SJW'ism wasn't as influential even then, but in his second term he's embraced SJWism full-stop and we know who's holding the reigns of culture.

(02-13-2016 05:53 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

For the US, this is the most significant piece of news this year, by far.

The GOP must use its Senate majority to block any Obama nominee. The stakes are too high.

A progressive/SJW appointment to the Supreme Court would give them a 5-4 majority for the foreseeable future. Ginsburg could live for another decade for all we know. A 5-4 majority (not even counting Anthony Kennedy) means that we are fucked in many ways that matter.

This is going to be the truest test that the Republican Party has faced in decades.

Are they going to roll over or are they actually going to do their damn job and block any SJW-inclined ultra "progressive" nominee?

What fucking bad luck.

Let's apply some game theory here. Chances of the next president being a democrat is higher according to betting sites. 1 to 1.67 odds are given for a democrat president while odds for a republican one are 1 to 2.25.

If Hillary wins the election rest assured she will make a SJW appointment. I think the smartest move the Republican party can make is support a moderate appointment before the elections. Like someone who is similar to Michael Bloomberg. 2 Swing-3 conservative-4 Left will be much better than 1 swing-3 conservative-5 leftie. Do not rule out a democrat president. In the event there are 5 lefties, 3 cons-1 swing we will be fucked for the foreseeble future. The amount of lefties might even increase to 7 during a democrat presidency.

Hillary is not winning shit. She is the most hated candidate. Worse than Mondale.

[911Turbo]

(02-13-2016 06:44 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 06:19 PM)911Turbo Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 06:09 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

This is bad. This is really bad.

Even if he died at the beginning of Obama's term it wouldn't be as bad, because SJW'ism wasn't as influential even then, but in his second term he's embraced SJWism full-stop and we know who's holding the reigns of culture.

(02-13-2016 05:53 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

For the US, this is the most significant piece of news this year, by far.

The GOP must use its Senate majority to block any Obama nominee. The stakes are too high.

A progressive/SJW appointment to the Supreme Court would give them a 5-4 majority for the foreseeable future. Ginsburg could live for another decade for all we know. A 5-4 majority (not even counting Anthony Kennedy) means that we are fucked in many ways that matter.

This is going to be the truest test that the Republican Party has faced in decades.

Are they going to roll over or are they actually going to do their damn job and block any SJW-inclined ultra "progressive" nominee?

What fucking bad luck.

Let's apply some game theory here. Chances of the next president being a democrat is higher according to betting sites. 1 to 1.67 odds are given for a democrat president while odds for a republican one are 1 to 2.25.

If Hillary wins the election rest assured she will make a SJW appointment. I think the smartest move the Republican party can make is support a moderate appointment before the elections. Like someone who is similar to Michael Bloomberg. 2 Swing-3 conservative-4 Left will be much better than 1 swing-3 conservative-5 leftie. Do not rule out a democrat president. In the event there are 5 lefties, 3 cons-1 swing we will be fucked for the foreseeble future. The amount of lefties might even increase to 7 during a democrat presidency.

Hillary is not winning shit. She is the most hated candidate. Worse than Mondale.

You are free to bet all your money on a Bernie presidency or a Republican presidency at very attractive odds if you believe this from your heart. I truly respect Volando, he believes that Bernie will be the next president, and he has put money where his mouth is by betting big on him. I respect you Volando even though I don't agree with you one bit!

Bernie presidency odds are 1 to 9
Republican presidency odds are 1 to 2.25
Trump presidency is 1 to 4

Take your pick.

[NilNisiOptimum]

This country has lost one of its greatest legal minds. No one on the SCOTUS knew the law like Scalia.

In terms of an appointment, I haven't seen a precedent for a vacancy on the court this late in a lame duck president's term. This is likely the biggest issue around the election. Either the next president has this as their first order of business upon taking the oath in January, or Obama can tilt the election with his nomination. By that I mean that by pushing a hard left appointment, swing voters could break for the GOP. A more moderate appointment could make a contentious confirmation a negative for Republicans.

Then there's the effect on Senatorial elections. The Senate confirms appointments, and with more Republicans up for reelection this year, that could help their cause.

This election just got a lot more interesting.

[uncledick]

(02-13-2016 05:48 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

The fat fuck is dead?

Good to hear.

Whats was wrong with Scalia? I'm from Canada, and our supreme court is full of SJWs. This country would probably be in much better place if we had a court full of Scalia's. The feminists, progressives, LGBTs, leftists and general no-fun police that this board loathes and hates would not have as much of as safe haven here. Scalia's and those like him are a win for men, masculinity and the patriarchy (or keeping whats left of it alive) in general.

[MiscBrah]

I am in mourning. Scalia was the bedrock of just about everything I believed politically.

What is even more shocking than his death is the amount of Americans ridiculing this man. This country is so divided.

"Scalia died in his sleep the night of February 12 or the early morning of February 13, 2016, after a day spent hunting quail at Cibolo Creek Ranch, 33 miles south of Marfa, Texas."

What a great way to go out...

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Now is the time for the GOP leadership to draw a line in the sand and say that no SCOTUS nomination by Obama will be approved by the Senate.

Anything less than this, 100%, and the GOP is finished as a political force.

[Suits]

Damn. I remember reading this guy's opinions in law courses in university. Always the dissenting opinion.

[It_is_my_time]

(02-13-2016 07:12 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  

I am in mourning. Scalia was the bedrock of just about everything I believed politically.

What is even more shocking than his death is the amount of Americans ridiculing this man. This country is so divided.

"Scalia died in his sleep the night of February 12 or the early morning of February 13, 2016, after a day spent hunting quail at Cibolo Creek Ranch, 33 miles south of Marfa, Texas."

What a great way to go out...

I saw that he was approved in 1986 with a vote of 98-0.

That tells you how far to the left, and how full of self hate and low self esteem, the Democrat party and their supporters are full of today v. just 30 years ago.

[Phoenix]

This just doubled down on the election stakes. If the leftists get the balance in the Supreme Court it's plummet time, especially coupled with a leftist president. This election is now truly national life and death stuff. We were within 1 vote of the 2nd amendment being annulled not too long ago.

[Cattle Rustler]

(02-13-2016 07:03 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 05:48 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

The fat fuck is dead?

Good to hear.

Whats was wrong with Scalia? I'm from Canada, and our supreme court is full of SJWs. This country would probably be in much better place if we had a court full of Scalia's. The feminists, progressives, LGBTs, leftists and general no-fun police that this board loathes and hates would not have as much of as safe haven here. Scalia's and those like him are a win for men, masculinity and the patriarchy (or keeping whats left of it alive) in general.

Have you looked at his pictures?

I'll use a delightfully constructed sentence that cobra made on this post (thread-33796...id672050):

Quote:

He’s chubby as a fuck, but wears tight ass clothes that hang out his belly; probably raped as a boy and dressed up in panties.

You call a chubby man "masculine"? Please return your "man card".

[DarkTriad]

5-4 becomes 4-5...this is going to hurt. It's going to hurt for a long time.

[MiscBrah]

Cattle Rustler,

Why do you feel the need to ridicule a dead man?

[Tex]

Regardless of how you feel about the man's ideas or conservativism, if you're an American you shouldn't be disrespecting the Supreme Court as an institution by lauding the death of one of its justices.

If Sotomayor died you wouldn't find me saying "good riddance," if only because these people are legal experts who very often look past personal opinions to check our rampaging government and defend this country's founding document.

Sometimes you might not agree with them, but they serve one of the most professional insitutions left in America's government. To celebrate any of their deaths is classless and immature. These liberals celebrating Scalia's death and calling him a piece of shit because he has different views is ridiculous and sad. At least to me.

[porscheguy]

(02-13-2016 06:27 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

Did they catch Dick Cheney yet?

G

When I heard that he died while on a hunting trip in Texas, the first question I asked was whether or not Cheney was there.

Since they already passed the big spending bill last month, there's nothing for Obama to leverage to get another vile pick shoved through. He'll have to pick someone to appease the Republicans or the seat will remain vacant.

As far as any precedent goes regarding a lame duck in his final year, he's still the president, and it's still within his powers to appoint justices. Since he can be certain that his girl shrillery will win, he'll have to proceed.

Ginsburg and Kennedy are both well into their 80s. Chances are high the next president will replace one or both.

[Indy]

(02-13-2016 07:36 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

You call a chubby man "masculine"? Please return your "man card".

Yeah, the guy was 79. He should have been running 5k's on the weekend and keeping that gut in check. Should have been pressing 250 too. It would have gone a ways at improving his SMV and likely increased his notch count.

Here is the man standing next to Reagan after his confirmation to the highest court in the land.



He'll be remembered by history. His opinions will be studied by law students and cited in trials for the next fifty years plus.

Totally beta...