I see your point but isn't excessive showboating demonstrative of a lack of skill?
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Quote: (08-19-2015 02:28 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:
The first one speaks for itself.
The second one is one of the worst ways you can defend against a boxer.
Quote: (08-19-2015 10:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:
I see your point but isn't excessive showboating demonstrative of a lack of skill?
Quote: (08-03-2015 03:21 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:
Question here: why would you do Judo if you can do Jujutsu? From what I understand Jujutsu has the best grappling stuff of Judo (Judo comes from Jujutsu) while still incorporate tons of useful stuff like kick, punch, joint manipulation. That should be a much better combination.
Quote: (08-19-2015 09:43 AM)Natural Born Gyalist Wrote:
So because a guy got knocked out showboating he is an unskilled fighter? I have been training in boxing and martial arts since I was eight years old. That's almost four decades of fight training and knowledge. I have taught many amateur fighters and a few pros. I have been in more street fights than most people here have notch counts. I don't need to argue with a stranger online about who is and who isn't legit. I am sure you could beat both these guys up at the same time since you think they are both poor fighters. Real recognizes real. I can't convince someone who is and isn't a skilled fighter. We just know when we see someone else who understands.
Quote: (08-26-2015 01:17 PM)lowbudgetballer Wrote:
Quote: (08-03-2015 03:21 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:
Question here: why would you do Judo if you can do Jujutsu? From what I understand Jujutsu has the best grappling stuff of Judo (Judo comes from Jujutsu) while still incorporate tons of useful stuff like kick, punch, joint manipulation. That should be a much better combination.
Oldstyle judo--i.e. 70s judo--remained closer it its jujutsu roots and contained and regularly trained striking, grappling, and groundwork and featured randori (essentially live wrestling). Sports schools threw this out and tend to focus on winning competition based on the current, usually Olympic, rules. That's why Rousey armlocks so fast. Brazilian Jujutsu focuses on groundwork and features randori, but lacks striking and throws. Traditional Jujutsu features all three ranges but lacks randori.
You don't usually find non-BJJ jujustu schools, but the closest thing is aikido. Good aikido schools feature randori and require judo and even karate certification to reach higher levels. Aikido wasn't even intended to be practiced until you have ten years in karate, judo, or both.
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Quote: (09-11-2015 08:09 PM)Rush87 Wrote:
Quote: (08-26-2015 01:17 PM)lowbudgetballer Wrote:
Quote: (08-03-2015 03:21 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:
Question here: why would you do Judo if you can do Jujutsu? From what I understand Jujutsu has the best grappling stuff of Judo (Judo comes from Jujutsu) while still incorporate tons of useful stuff like kick, punch, joint manipulation. That should be a much better combination.
Oldstyle judo--i.e. 70s judo--remained closer it its jujutsu roots and contained and regularly trained striking, grappling, and groundwork and featured randori (essentially live wrestling). Sports schools threw this out and tend to focus on winning competition based on the current, usually Olympic, rules. That's why Rousey armlocks so fast. Brazilian Jujutsu focuses on groundwork and features randori, but lacks striking and throws. Traditional Jujutsu features all three ranges but lacks randori.
You don't usually find non-BJJ jujustu schools, but the closest thing is aikido. Good aikido schools feature randori and require judo and even karate certification to reach higher levels. Aikido wasn't even intended to be practiced until you have ten years in karate, judo, or both.
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Judo is a great skill to have BUT… A big reason that Rousey arm locks so fast however is her level of competition. MMA has had the likes of Olympic Gold Medallist Satoshii Ishii in the heavyweight division and he went nowhere.
Unless you have the ability to effectively cut distance Judo cannot come into play.
In the case of Rousey; Her competition is so low [As is Rousey's other skill sets outside Judo] that she can move forward in a straight line [Rookie error], plant her feet square and swing [Another rookie error], her opponents do the same, she grabs an arm and finishes the fight.
In mens MMA you get KO'd. A fighter in the elite level of the mens division will require feints, solid boxing, level changes and the ability to cut angles to land a takedown or get to the clinch. If he was to move straight forward he would get jabbed into a bloody mess or KO'd in a heartbeat.
Quote: (10-29-2015 05:59 AM)XXL Wrote:
Anyone tried KALI or KRAV MAGA??
I'm interested in a quick and effective self-defense martial art. I want to learn how to use objects to defend myself and how to subdue/quickly take an opponent down and leave without "fighting to fight" [throwing punches, wrestling, scrabbling, etc]
Quote: (10-29-2015 10:08 AM)XXL Wrote:
Say what? from what i've seen both styles are minimalistic effective and practical in real life. especially kali with its focus on weapons fast close distance contact with fast paced movements.
Quote: (10-29-2015 05:59 AM)XXL Wrote:
Anyone tried KALI or KRAV MAGA??
I'm interested in a quick and effective self-defense martial art. I want to learn how to use objects to defend myself and how to subdue/quickly take an opponent down and leave without "fighting to fight" [throwing punches, wrestling, scrabbling, etc]
Quote: (10-30-2015 03:05 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:
Like crashbangwhallop said, it's really commercialized. The cult following it seems to have makes dojos appear with teachers who shouldn't be teaching it. So if you yourself are dead-set on joining a krav school, thoroughly vet the classes before you join.