[Super_Fire]

(05-20-2018 04:34 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

Is the ultimate purpose of this creation really to just sit on a rock and retreat?

Just to touch on this, both the Catholics and Buddhists would clearly say "no." Remember how the Buddha went off to be an ascetic and meditate in the wildnerness. Once he became enlightened he realized he couldn't just be a hermit, he had to go down into the avenues and streets and be among people. Of course he also left his wife and son but that's another issue. But you see it again and again with former recluses like Bodhidharma only meditating alone for a while before rejoining society in some manner.

Likewise, the Catholic tradition is against monks and saints becoming recluses. It's about being in the world and spreading teachings.

[Kid Twist]

(05-20-2018 10:50 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

Likewise, the Catholic tradition is against monks and saints becoming recluses. It's about being in the world and spreading teachings.

This is also the same reason why it is so susceptible to, or outright producing, SJW activity.

You can't just be in the world [everyone is], you must be both in the world but not of the world.

[Super_Fire]

^^^Agreed, Satan is the lord of this world.

[Neo]

(05-20-2018 10:50 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

Likewise, the Catholic tradition is against monks and saints becoming recluses. It's about being in the world and spreading teachings.

The Catholic church isn't against this. It's in the canon, specifically canon law 603 which states:

"In addition to the institutes of consecrated life, the Church recognizes the eremitic or anchoritic life by which the Christian faithful devote their life to the praise of God and the salvation of the world through a stricter withdrawal from the world, the silence of solitude, and assiduous prayer and penance."

The practicing person must get approval from a higher authority in the church usually the local Bishop. There are some other rules to follow, but it's not prohibited in the least.

There are several hermit monk orders such as the Carthusians and the Order of Saint Bruno.

The people you see day to day are from more outgoing/evangelizing orders like the Franciscans and the Jesuits. These orders are much more liberal and SJW, the Jesuits in particular.

Now hermit monks live in a monastery with others, but the hermit orders have very very little contact with the outside world and are reclusive.

[dtpilgrim]

You are constantly self-casting your own reality. Most people are severely limited in this way. By perpetually self-medicating, self-numbing and self-reinforcing we end up in the same spot for years on end, making only illusory growth, while in reality only simply reaching exactly but no more than the (unspoken) standards we have set for ourselves in this life. Everything you believe is, in this sense, a partial lie, for not covering the whole of all possible perspectives, yet a practical truth, in the sense of being the sole driver for all of your behaviors.

It's almost, once you get trained at this, that you can clearly delineate people based on the utilization of their own consciousness. Not a personality typology... but a consciousness typology.

At the lowest rung is the hyper-rationalist or the autist. Incapable of cognitive empathy or perspective taking, all they are ever able to experience is their own awareness, which self-affirms at all times and is never wrong and always right. These people are stubborn, pigheaded, foolish, but most of all they just don't get ahead as their stunted perspective of reality only gets in their own way.

On the next rung, the dormant normie. Trained expertly from birth through to education, the dormant normie is chained by a sea of obligations and expectations: Church, family values, cultural trends, media trends, career narratives... They have the potential for cognitive empathy, but are stifled in superficiality. Since their programming is to mirror their surroundings, a superficial culture produces superficial dormant normies.

One rung above, we find the sociopaths. They are born from pain, shutting off their heart, weakness and vulnerabilities, they are taken hostage by a tyrant ego. Brilliantly nihilistic, they see through the chaining narratives of society, but in stifling the heart, they are void of identity or life. Robotically chasing one fleeting pleasure after another, all other are NPC's and only their One True Consciousness is the perspectives that outsmarts them all ("the other").

On the fourth tier, we find the insightful. On the one hand the psychonaut, who in taking ketamine or magic mushrooms is violently broken free of his previous rational, enclosed and entrenched consciousness. By seeing how easily his perspective, and therefore his experience, can be changed, the immediate inferences is that his entire previous reality stack, was relative. On the other hand, those who are struck by tragedies of life, with great loss demanding introspection, in turn deepening consciousness.

Often this leads to the next rung, the "Realized Normie". Tragedy and tripping has brought humility, a deepened consciousness and a wider empathy, with the ability to truly see from another's perspective. Balanced in their flaws and their willingness to commit to overcoming them, the realized normie calls the spiritual journey quits and seeks parenthood.

Some however, are called towards the spiritual path. These are the Buddhists seeking enlightenment through meditative self-examination. Or those practicing occult magick with the aim of internal alchemy. By examining the "meta-programming", the unspoken pillars of their consciousness, they are able to break their imagination free from all impositions - though often at the cost of a Dark Night of the Soul or worse.

Even still, the passive self-discovery junkie is still chained by selfish aims. The final evolution is the transforming empathy, wisdom and perspective taking into action. Knowing of the stages in the development of consciousness and knowing of the hundreds of possible perspectives and emotional drives, in the final stage, this knowledge is used for healing and the growth of others. It is here that the cliche of love is all that matters becomes understood. Ultimately, all that one consciousness can give to another, is love: attention, acceptance, constructive judgment, understanding, goodwill, wisdom, care.

No longer, is the question how do I get what I want, how do I get what I need. Rather, the focus is outwards. How do I find out what the other needs and how do I give it to them. All consciousnesses have the potential to become healing. But there must be wisdom, experience and desire.

[Super_Fire]

(05-26-2018 08:43 AM)Neo Wrote:  

Now hermit monks live in a monastery with others, but the hermit orders have very very little contact with the outside world and are reclusive.

I would say then that they're not really hermits in the sense that we were discussing; i.e. living on a mountain somewhere alone. They could still produce writing that is then disseminated by the monastery for the benefit of the general laity, not just meditating for their own benefit. Kind of an apples to crab-apples comparison.

[Fortis]

(05-28-2018 12:16 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

You are constantly self-casting your own reality. Most people are severely limited in this way. By perpetually self-medicating, self-numbing and self-reinforcing we end up in the same spot for years on end, making only illusory growth, while in reality only simply reaching exactly but no more than the (unspoken) standards we have set for ourselves in this life. Everything you believe is, in this sense, a partial lie, for not covering the whole of all possible perspectives, yet a practical truth, in the sense of being the sole driver for all of your behaviors.

I find this to be extremely true. The more I let go of my past failures and my identification with those failures the more I am able to move forward since my focus is no longer on these things I cannot change.

[Neo]

(05-28-2018 12:16 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

You are constantly self-casting your own reality.

Agree. There are certain truths, certain realities that just are. But we also interface with reality and can morph and change it. Now, in my experience most of the change is within yourself, but never underestimate how changing yourself and your beliefs can influence the world. There's a multiplicative effect, with the number of people you know who hear your message. I still don't know what the percentage is of what's fixed and what can be influenced.

Ignoring any sort of spirituality, this can be simply defined as a growth vs. fixed mindset. If you believe your ability to progress in anything is fixed, you will immediately stop yourself. However, if you believe in growth and change, your progression in any endeavor will be much easier.

It seems simple, but I have so many stories in my life where I changed my reality or beliefs and it manifested some result. I remember many years ago, in BJJ I had a teammate who I just couldn't tap out. Literally I must have rolled with him hundreds of times and got tapped every time, it was fine because I was still learning, but I decided one day before class on that particular day I was going to win. So I just focused on it for hours, psyched myself up in the car, and low and behold that night I tapped him for the first time. Right after he said 'There's something different about you tonight.'

Another time many years ago, I did a self hypnosis exercise to rid myself of approach anxiety and gain confidence. That night I went out to game, and I ended up running into this girl I knew from college who I was too scared to make a move on. I ended up succeeded with her like crazy. So what changed? Just me.

These were small things, but set me on a path that I still follow to this day.

[dtpilgrim]

Unconventional proposal: is anyone down to try a ritual?

[sterling_archer]

For what?

[loremipsum]

At times I wonder if the learnings of Game are some day in this feminist future considered so "radical", that they are only shared to certain members and become a pseudo occult knowledge.

[Mage]

(08-06-2018 09:08 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  

At times I wonder if the learnings of Game are some day in this feminist future considered so "radical", that they are only shared to certain members and become a pseudo occult knowledge.

Oh, but of course it is.

We all are players and pawns in the occult game - the more you influence other people's minds and souls the bigger role do you have in the invisible war, the great work.

You think sleeping with women is just a game? No each time you sleep with a woman your souls touch, your karma get's entangled. Knowingly or not you leave an imprint on her and she leaves imprint on you. Then you must live with it and it shapes your destiny, either you realize that or not.

The knowledge of the nature of a woman is a powerful tool, but most men here use it like fools, like monkeys with grenade. They are but pawns in the forces that bring down the decline, like moths flying blindly to light they seek pleasure and waste their life energy to corrupt women and numb themselves and their consorts spiritually.

Chastity is a virtue. Use game to find a quality woman and to bring worthy souls in this life. Raise your children well so their children would raise you well in your next life. Build your clan and commune with your ancestors. Do this and you will have used the knowledge wisely.

Or live the "player lifestyle" and be in the same place in old age as in youth, move nowhere. Be blinded by your knowledge, be weakened by your power. Seek pleasure and happiness and achieve depression in finding that this onion has no core.

Each life is measured by the number of karmic knots tied or untied. The occult game is about certain entities keeping souls in their entanglements, or raising above them to a place more free. The more hearts you broke, the more people you deceive the more knots you make. To untie the knots you forgive others, you give each is due, you participate in bringing souls in life so they could untie their knots and you guide them.

Knowledge is a weapon, but most times someone gives you a weapon he intends you to be his soldier. Are you the good soldier or do you have your own mind? What world are you building with the tools you are given? If you receive a gun do you go and shoot whomever you want to be on constant power trip? Or you hide it well on use it selectively, only when the proper time has come?

Killing flesh is sometimes less of a sin then killing a soul. Flesh ages and dies and gets created anew. But the wounds of soul can last for an indefinite time, some heal in one life, others require thousand lives. Eternity is here and now, if you fall low enough you might have another eternity to climb back.

Climbing up, falling down, climbing back again, looking to not fall again, from brick to god, trough eternity - that is the real game. Where are you moving? Where are the people you are entangled with pulling you?

[Brazilianguy]

(07-07-2018 09:52 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

Unconventional proposal: is anyone down to try a ritual?

I´m down.

[sterling_archer]

I am not completely sure if the Mage is indirectly referring here to soul as a karmic particle aggregate worldview but I will assume he is. This is something I strongly believe to be true. In this case what you do here during life is what will have effect on your possible afterlife. I said possible because some people do not have it at all. This is a stark contrast to belief that everybody goes to heaven/hell when they die.

Karmic actions produce various levels of cohesion. We could argue that being a good man/woman will produce much stronger soul entity than being a serial psycho killer. In the case of the former, he/she will experience afterlife in any form it might appear and after some time will be drawn to incarnate. Incarnation will probably happen in circumstances which would favor additional soul growth and are similar to previous life. In the latter case, this guy would probably just disintegrate after death, both physical and nonphysical bodies and soul. There is literally nothing holding particles together, because of his vile life and thus where will soul go? In the case he/she really gets afterlife, this would be something resembling dense, low vibration, hell like realms where he/she would not necessary be punished, but it would resemble an eternity of withdrawal from those things we consider to make us Human. No feelings of anything, just mindless zombie like existence.

Of course incarnation will happen and this weak soul will be drawn to some physical life which would probably have circumstances which would make those weak particle survive. Talking about poverty, physical violence, mental torture. That is not to say that those that experience this kind of life I mentioned were serial killers in the past life, but "low life" might easily be result of "low life" in the previous incarnation.

[loremipsum]

Interesting, sterling archer. That's a terrifying thought. How much is forgivable to attain a second change as a 3D entity?
Will the Rotschilds and Merkels be given a hellish incarnation in lower vibrations where they may pay their karmic debts or keep doing the same choices again and again for eons.
Or will they simply perish like they never existed nor will.

[sterling_archer]

According to these cultures I mentioned (primary ancient Indian philosophy) literally anything can happen. They can simply stop existing, like they never existed at all or they could incarnate like you said in those brutal places.

[Neo]

The elites have always been fascinated with immortality. On an intuitive level, they understand that if they are spiritually bankrupt they can only rule in this world.
They imagine their wealth compounding for hundreds of years.

When it comes to the soul or consciousness being a karmic entity, I never believed this to be true. Then I began to have some experiences that made me reevaluate this.

First while on a silent retreat during meditation, my mind continually brought up memories where I acted unethically. They were all stored in my subconscious being brought back into full view.

As I have gone farther on the spiritual path other strange things began to occur. For example, extreme anger now makes me physicallly ill. I can immediately see the comsequences of actions.

I think this is a result of heightened awareness.

Again these are things I was very skeptical about, until they started occurring to me.

[sterling_archer]

(08-08-2018 07:59 PM)Neo Wrote:  

The elites have always been fascinated with immortality. On an intuitive level, they understand that if they are spiritually bankrupt they can only rule in this world.
They imagine their wealth compounding for hundreds of years.

You know, recently I started to believe that our luciferian/satanic elites don't concern much themselves with philosophies from East, or that they practice magick because they want to accomplish something.

I think it has always been something for them as a means to fulfill tradition, which started way before them and that most don't really believe in what they practice. Pedo/abuse/ritual conspiracy fits perfectly into it. They just want to get off on it as they fulfilled their all sexual desires and over time became degenerates looking for all the new ways.
Somehow I just cannot picture them seriously talking about magick, soul composition, afterlife, etc. and then doing some ritual to appease Satan. They would do it, but not for the reasons we first think of (to give powers, fame, etc.).

[Meliorare93]

Anyone read the Game of Saturn? It touches on the possibilities of such conspiratorial rites. Quite the interesting read:

https://scarletimprint.com/publications/...-of-saturn

[blck]

I tend to believe what everybody dismiss, the last thing is the vid about Alex Jones "Deus Ex" skit from the Joe Rogan experience where he talk about 12 dimensions, super computer of made of all the devices connected on the internet, brain network where someone think something here and someone else, accross lands and oceans, does what have been think...

Anyway my only literrature is about Intelligence Community, CIA, DGSE/I, KGB and what they worked on, some projects are actually laughable but on the subject of "Esoteric/Occult" the CIA worked on this so if they do, something was/is going on about this subject.

Because of DTPilgrim excellent post about the Law of Attraction and NLP/Hypnosis hidden knowledge I've experienced I wanted to post this, this is Simulation hypothesis

The Simulation hypothesis Wrote:

As quantum physics has shown and what the CIA document confirms, there is no such thing as matter. Everything is light vibrating at specific frequencies. We as humans can only perceive less than 1% of the light and audio spectrum, therefore 99% of the universe around us is invisible.



How to Master the Law of Attraction (Explained by the CIA)

Patterning: This technique involves the use of the consciousness to achieve desired objectives in the physical, emotional, or intellectual sphere. It involves concentration on the desired objective while in a Focus 12 state, extension of the individual’s perception of that objective into the whole expanded consciousness, and its projection into the universe with the intention that the desired objective is already a matter of established achievement which is destined to be realized within the time frame specified.

This particular methodology is based on the belief that the thought patterns generated by our consciousness in a state of expanded awareness create holograms which represent the situation we desire to bring about and, in so doing, establish the basis for actual realization of that goal.

Once the thought-generated hologram of the sought after objective is established in the universe it becomes an aspect of reality which interacts with the universal hologram to bring about the desired objective which might not, under other circumstances, ever occur.

In other words, the technique of patterning recognizes the fact that since consciousness is the source of all reality, our thoughts have the power to influence the development of reality in time-space as it applies to us if those thoughts can be projected with adequate intensity.

Anyway I wanted to participate, Hope H1N1 won't be too troubled about this thread getting resurrected again

[Max RNR]

Magick in Theory and Practice, Eight Lectures on Yoga, and Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law -- and commentary in The Law is for All), by Aleister Crowley, are highly recommended for those of both rational mind and spiritual bent who endeavor to explore this path.

AC was a player of his time. He grew up a Christian (and so had the "devil" in him) and his best pulls were always religiously minded women.

The main stream media of his time tried to smear and ruin him. He withheld through a few lawsuits too (both criminal and civil). That aside, he was ultimately "ruined" by himself at the end. Opioids, in a man's later years, can and will take away (what was then unknown as such) a "gorilla mindset". He died "alone"... and yet he endures.

His youthful works are the best.

Nevermind the leftists who crow about and exalt him now. They have no idea what they are talking about or doing.

His "mission" was to explore all of mankind's religion, myth, and magick -- both the dark and the light -- in person (including Islam)... so you don't have to and so you have a leg up on the rest of your generational cohorts.

The Equinox series is his most prized ark of books and is nearly unobtainable now for less than a small fortune.

There are only two major tenants to Thelema:

1) Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

2) Love is the law, love under will.

And that sums personal action up nicely, when taken with regard to one's known purpose.

Don't believe the hype.

[Easy_C]

Alistair Crowley was none of the above. He was an admitted MI6 agent, Eugenicist, and high ranking (((cabal))) member.

https://youtu.be/XUe4Zs4txK8

So yeah. Those leftists are missing the actual point but they intuitively understand he shared their goal of destroying western civilization.

[debeguiled]

(10-16-2018 10:32 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Alistair Crowley was none of the above. He was an admitted MI6 agent, Eugenicist, and high ranking (((cabal))) member.

https://youtu.be/XUe4Zs4txK8

So yeah. Those leftists are missing the actual point but they intuitively understand he shared their goal of destroying western civilization.

Guys like Aleister Crowley exploit a basic flaw in the human operating system.

When you are young, you see the conformity of grown ups and realize you don't want to be a sheep by just going along to get along.

So, you want to be an individual, but don't want it to be too hard or to consume too many of your brain cycle energy units.

So you hit on what seems like a good idea: I will just do the opposite of what the normies do, and then I will be a truly unique and original character.

The philosophy of Crowley appeals to this impulse, the impulse to increase your own perceived status (in your own mind) by behaving in a contrary way.

It appeals to the Holden Caulfield in us all, the insecure little guy whose main fear is that he will end up a *phony* like everyone else.

Exploring Satanism or the Esoteric is a cheap way to convince yourself you are special.

And the guys who organize and promote these things are well aware of this impulse, and make no mistake, they are waiting for the naively optimistic would be rebels with open arms.

They will flatter you and make you feel special and initiated while they lead you down a path of increasingly unhealthy behavior and insecurity and false promises until you hit the point where you are in so deep that, even though you know you are living a messed up life, you just keep going because it is what you are used to and you are too proud to admit you took a wrong turn.

Proceed with caution.

The people offering to let you in on the secrets of the universe know what they are doing.

[loremipsum]

(10-17-2018 11:14 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 10:32 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Alistair Crowley was none of the above. He was an admitted MI6 agent, Eugenicist, and high ranking (((cabal))) member.

https://youtu.be/XUe4Zs4txK8

So yeah. Those leftists are missing the actual point but they intuitively understand he shared their goal of destroying western civilization.

The people offering to let you in on the secrets of the universe know what they are doing.

And instantly a picture of RSDtyler fills my mind .

[Max RNR]

(10-16-2018 10:32 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Alistair Crowley was none of the above. He was an admitted MI6 agent, Eugenicist, and high ranking (((cabal))) member.

https://youtu.be/XUe4Zs4txK8

So yeah. Those leftists are missing the actual point but they intuitively understand he shared their goal of destroying western civilization.

Thanks for the link, @Easy_C. I'm always up for new takes on old history. I was unaware of this book and author -- I stopped following the "occult revival" in the mid 2000's after all the biographies on AC came out. The interview gets really interesting for me around minute 57. Still listening and processing.

What are your sources for "Eugenicist" and "high ranking (((cabal))) member" (aside of the known Freemasonry, OTO, and AA degrees and grades) for Crowley? Did I miss something else?