Do you bro. I have 12 people on my real estate team, 6 of which are banking 100+ a year, 3 at 75+, and 3 are brand new. I don't need to be greedy
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Quote: (06-25-2015 09:21 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
Quote: (06-25-2015 07:38 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
With Bill and his billionaire buddies pushing to greatly increase the number of H-1B visa workers, all while the average American is struggling, just so they can save a few more million a year on salaries and sell out the country that gave them an opportunity, I have no good feelings towards him and his ilk.
How many Americans do you employ and how much do you pay them?
Quote: (06-26-2015 06:36 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
I would work to employ more Americans, rather than fuck them over by taking from their tax base and then not employing them and employing foreign workers to save a few bucks if in his position.
Unfortunately I am not in his position. And his billionaire buddies are all working to make even more money they can never spend in their life time all by fucking over the American worker, whom they once desperately needed to build their businesses.
If he wants to locate businesses overseas, I am fine with that. But paying off elected officials so they will flood this country with more foreign workers, when there are millions here with the necessary skills looking for work is about as low as one can go.
Quote: (06-26-2015 02:10 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
Quote: (06-26-2015 06:36 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
I would work to employ more Americans, rather than fuck them over by taking from their tax base and then not employing them and employing foreign workers to save a few bucks if in his position.
Unfortunately I am not in his position. And his billionaire buddies are all working to make even more money they can never spend in their life time all by fucking over the American worker, whom they once desperately needed to build their businesses.
If he wants to locate businesses overseas, I am fine with that. But paying off elected officials so they will flood this country with more foreign workers, when there are millions here with the necessary skills looking for work is about as low as one can go.
You guys are funny. It's like a pavlov dog experiment when mentioning Gates and other billionaires.
Still, it doesn't negate the fact that they do give away a lot of money and do help a lot of people around the world. I have no problem with business owners trying to cut costs. I'm sure the stock holders appreciate it. It's the politicians that should be held accountable for giving in. Besides, I wouldn't say there are millions of people with the necessary skills for jobs at Microsoft and other tech companies. Maybe you know something I don't.
I honestly don't understand why you don't have a problem with Microsoft moving their company overseas and taking all of their jobs. After all, you say they owe this country for their success yet don't have a problem with them leaving.
Hope you feel better after your rant.
Quote: (06-26-2015 02:22 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Instead they bring the workers here, which hurts the American middle class, aka those who helped them get started, and they do little to nothing to help those poor countries.
In the end, the billionaires get richer, the middle class gets poorer, and the poor in the other countries remain poor. It is pure evil and needs to be addressed before it is too late.
Quote: (06-26-2015 02:57 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
Quote: (06-26-2015 02:22 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Instead they bring the workers here, which hurts the American middle class, aka those who helped them get started, and they do little to nothing to help those poor countries.
In the end, the billionaires get richer, the middle class gets poorer, and the poor in the other countries remain poor. It is pure evil and needs to be addressed before it is too late.
That is a blanket statement. You have to look at the industries. While you have a point when talking about what Disney did, you wouldn't be correct when talking about the tech industry.
There are not millions of programmers sitting around and not working. You're talking salaries around 80k to 120k for the type of programmers that work for tech companies like Microsoft.
Also, if companies relocate, there will be even less jobs. I don't get your reasoning, especially since you brought up how they are screwing the country that made them great. You either expect loyalty or you don't. Moving away for better taxes and a cheaper workforce is not loyalty and ends up making the billionaires richer while the poor people poorer.
Anyway, we went way off topic here. There is way too much rich hate on here that seems to pop up in many threads here. It's easy to recognize the bad, but for some reason many of you guys can't accept that they also do plenty of good. It isn't a black and white world we live in.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:03 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
There are underemployed and also unemployed IT professionals. I am in the field and I know of them. The purpose of bringing the H-1B visa workers here is to help drive down wages of the IT professionals.
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I don't necessarily want the companies to relocate, I would rather they expand. If they think so highly of the workers there, then expand there and help those poorer countries grow with economic opportunity. But if they did that, then the middle class would grow and prosper and while Bill and his buddies would still have billions, they might have one or two less billion and they are too greedy/evil to allow that.
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I love to see people become successful. I doubt anyone here works harder than me. There are probably a few who work as hard as me, but it would be tough to work harder. I admire and appreciate those who lived the American dream, including both my grandfathers. But those opportunities are disappearing because of these billionaires who think they need to screw over who ever they can to get even more. They have a larger evil plan, and it is to crush the middle class and the hope of an average person rising to the ranks of royalty. They want their wealth insulated from all competition, and that is their only worry.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:10 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:03 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
There are underemployed and also unemployed IT professionals. I am in the field and I know of them. The purpose of bringing the H-1B visa workers here is to help drive down wages of the IT professionals.
I have my own software company. I am well aware of the market for hiring the people I need. IT is rather broad term, no?
How about naming some of these fields that are underemployed and unemployed?
Hell, Obama's big plan is for companies to hire from those code academies. haha
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/techhire-initiative/
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I don't necessarily want the companies to relocate, I would rather they expand. If they think so highly of the workers there, then expand there and help those poorer countries grow with economic opportunity. But if they did that, then the middle class would grow and prosper and while Bill and his buddies would still have billions, they might have one or two less billion and they are too greedy/evil to allow that.
You really are fixated on those billionaires when they are not the sole owners of those companies. Bill's fortune gained a lot of steam after he left Microsoft and from my understanding doesn't have as much stock in the company.
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I love to see people become successful. I doubt anyone here works harder than me. There are probably a few who work as hard as me, but it would be tough to work harder. I admire and appreciate those who lived the American dream, including both my grandfathers. But those opportunities are disappearing because of these billionaires who think they need to screw over who ever they can to get even more. They have a larger evil plan, and it is to crush the middle class and the hope of an average person rising to the ranks of royalty. They want their wealth insulated from all competition, and that is their only worry.
Yet you keep saying these people have too much money. You are arguing that it's great to be successful but no too successful. Businesses are not suppose to allow people to come in and compete with them. You do that and you're toast.
You keep pointing out specific people, but this isn't about specific people. It's about corporations.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:16 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
It isn't just Bill owning Microsoft, it is him using his money for ulterior motives to help protect his own wealth. Such as the BS Buffet spews and pushes to hurt the American middle class.
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And it isn't that they have too much, it is they use it in a way to screw over their fellow Americans, people in other countries, all to make themselves more money. They virtually steal from the tax payer, using the infrastructure they paid for, to the hire borderline slave wage labor from other countries. It is just immortal and it isn't hard to see this.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:37 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
I would still be interested in what type of jobs your underemployed and unemployed IT friends are looking for.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:16 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
It isn't just Bill owning Microsoft, it is him using his money for ulterior motives to help protect his own wealth. Such as the BS Buffet spews and pushes to hurt the American middle class.
You got me confused, man. It sounds like we are off the h1b visa topic since it wasn't Bill using his own money to hire gardeners.
Care to give me an example of what he used his own money for that has you riled up?
I'm not a Buffet fan, myself, and can agree with you on him. I don't know if Buffet used his own money to do anything specific, but some of the nonsense Buffet has spoken was bad for the middle and poor classes.
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And it isn't that they have too much, it is they use it in a way to screw over their fellow Americans, people in other countries, all to make themselves more money. They virtually steal from the tax payer, using the infrastructure they paid for, to the hire borderline slave wage labor from other countries. It is just immortal and it isn't hard to see this.
Again, examples would be appreciated. All I know is things done as corporations.
Quote: (07-02-2015 03:16 PM)Baldwin81 Wrote:
Pretty slick what Trump did with Univision. He understands that Republican Primary voters are disillusioned with how the party handles immigration. The GOP base goes fucking bonkers over immigration and he'll now be able to motherfuck everyone by saying they don't plan on doing anything about it. He's staking out some of his own territory since he also knows that he'll never been seen as Jesus-loving enough by the evangelicals.
I agree with Its_my_time, Trump will make this Republican primary as entertaining as it's ever been.
Quote: (06-29-2015 05:39 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:37 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:
I would still be interested in what type of jobs your underemployed and unemployed IT friends are looking for.
Quote: (06-26-2015 03:16 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
It isn't just Bill owning Microsoft, it is him using his money for ulterior motives to help protect his own wealth. Such as the BS Buffet spews and pushes to hurt the American middle class.
You got me confused, man. It sounds like we are off the h1b visa topic since it wasn't Bill using his own money to hire gardeners.
Care to give me an example of what he used his own money for that has you riled up?
I'm not a Buffet fan, myself, and can agree with you on him. I don't know if Buffet used his own money to do anything specific, but some of the nonsense Buffet has spoken was bad for the middle and poor classes.
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And it isn't that they have too much, it is they use it in a way to screw over their fellow Americans, people in other countries, all to make themselves more money. They virtually steal from the tax payer, using the infrastructure they paid for, to the hire borderline slave wage labor from other countries. It is just immortal and it isn't hard to see this.
Again, examples would be appreciated. All I know is things done as corporations.
Here you go...
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-48214-...pid1054088
Quote: (07-02-2015 03:59 PM)rpg Wrote:
Quote: (07-02-2015 03:16 PM)Baldwin81 Wrote:
Pretty slick what Trump did with Univision. He understands that Republican Primary voters are disillusioned with how the party handles immigration. The GOP base goes fucking bonkers over immigration and he'll now be able to motherfuck everyone by saying they don't plan on doing anything about it. He's staking out some of his own territory since he also knows that he'll never been seen as Jesus-loving enough by the evangelicals.
I agree with Its_my_time, Trump will make this Republican primary as entertaining as it's ever been.
He knows he isnt going to win but he is going to accumulate alot of power. I hope he fucks NBC and Univision so hard he gets his campaign paid for through their breach of contracts. They fell right into his trap. Funny thing is the latino sjw's think they are next after gay marriage. Aint gonna happen. This is an issue both sides of the aisle love to have smoldering on the fence forever.
Quote: (07-02-2015 06:10 PM)Repo Wrote:
I don't see how someone can consider Trump not a hypocrite since some of his products have been outed as made in Mexico. Do I agree with him that we need to do something about the border? Absolutely, but he is not the guy to do it.