[robreke]

Assuming you've already got the bang. Is there a fine line between being too "goofy" in front of a girl and maintaining frame? I think some women would find it funny/endearing.

Examples would be singing to some song along on the radio while she's not expecting it...even if it's a female singer like Blondie in Heart of Glass ...raising your voice. Maybe doing your hands around like a maestro while you're driving. That just comes off the top of my head because I was doing it earlier. To what extent can you be your sometimes goofy ( for lack of a better word) self without turning a girl off?

I probably wouldn't try things things early on though.

[The_e_man]

If she's into you, you can be as goofy as you want, especially if you've already fucked her.
If she's not into you, you are being a weirdo.

Similar to how if she's into you, then you're smooth and suave like James Bond.
If she's not into you, you're a creepy loser ewww.

[VincentVinturi]

This is a good thread topic, robreke.

I think it's ok to be a little bit goofy once you've got the bang.

Kind of like the saying "use confidence to attract and vulnerability to endear".

Everybody has a goofy side and letting that come out a bit is ok.

But I personally don't let myself get too goofy because it starts blurring the roles.

It's one thing to be playful and teasing but another thing to act like a dork.

Truth is that there's only probably a handful of people in the world who you can really be yourself around, people who know you better than you know yourself.

[robreke]

(04-18-2015 11:47 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

This is a good thread topic, robreke.

I think it's ok to be a little bit goofy once you've got the bang.

Kind of like the saying "use confidence to attract and vulnerability to endear".

Everybody has a goofy side and letting that come out a bit is ok.

But I personally don't let myself get too goofy because it starts blurring the roles.

It's one thing to be playful and teasing but another thing to act like a dork.

Truth is that there's only probably a handful of people in the world who you can really be yourself around, people who know you better than you know yourself.

^ Good synopsis Vince. I guess I've always instinctually known this. Usually girls are the more "goofy" acting ones ( read emotional), but most men have this side to their personality as well from time to time.

For men, it's much more imperative to maintain frame, hell even during a life long marriage, than a woman.

[Dusty]

Being goofy is a way of bonding with a girl who you've been smashing. You both project mature and sensible versions of yourself to the outside world, but behind closed doors you can act goofy together, which only you and her share.

[vinman]

I play with this quite a bit. With a lot of women I have to. If I come off as too intimidating most women will eject. So I play up the big and cuddly to make them comfortable. I pay attention to see what they're looking for based on their body language. I'm around 6ft, 260 pounds, with a shaved head, so I have to pay close attention to what they're signaling. It's cool to be a hulking brute with the world, but LIZARDS (thanks Moma) have to be comfortable to bang. You can't scare the fish into the boat, you have to bait them in.

[coverdoc]

^^ agreed. I'm a goofy person at the right times with chicks and have never had it back fire. BUT I only do this behind close doors. Out in public I stick more to keeping up good frame. Well try to at least.

-CD

[ordinaryleastsquared]

(04-18-2015 11:47 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

This is a good thread topic, robreke.

I think it's ok to be a little bit goofy once you've got the bang.

Kind of like the saying "use confidence to attract and vulnerability to endear".

Everybody has a goofy side and letting that come out a bit is ok.

But I personally don't let myself get too goofy because it starts blurring the roles.

It's one thing to be playful and teasing but another thing to act like a dork.

Truth is that there's only probably a handful of people in the world who you can really be yourself around, people who know you better than you know yourself.

I agree, but a big part of learning game, interacting with women regularly, and improving one's social skills is ingraining positive social traits so deeply into your personality that there is little difference between your 'true' self, and the self you project to others.

With girls, there's a fine line between playful teasing and acting goofy. The more time you spend with girls the more you'll come to see what is perceived as 'weird' and what's perceived as fun, and what parts of your personality you can show and when. Tickling a girl when your laying there after sex is way different then tickling a girl within 10 minutes of a first date (just one example I can think of).

Personally, I've found that talking about serious/real shit is more of turn off then anything else.

[robreke]

(04-18-2015 09:58 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:47 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

This is a good thread topic, robreke.

I think it's ok to be a little bit goofy once you've got the bang.

Kind of like the saying "use confidence to attract and vulnerability to endear".

Everybody has a goofy side and letting that come out a bit is ok.

But I personally don't let myself get too goofy because it starts blurring the roles.

It's one thing to be playful and teasing but another thing to act like a dork.

Truth is that there's only probably a handful of people in the world who you can really be yourself around, people who know you better than you know yourself.

I agree, but a big part of learning game, interacting with women regularly, and improving one's social skills is ingraining positive social traits so deeply into your personality that there is little difference between your 'true' self, and the self you project to others.

With girls, there's a fine line between playful teasing and acting goofy. The more time you spend with girls the more you'll come to see what is perceived as 'weird' and what's perceived as fun, and what parts of your personality you can show and when. Tickling a girl when your laying there after sex is way different then tickling a girl within 10 minutes of a first date (just one example I can think of).

Personally, I've found that talking about serious/real shit is more of turn off then anything else.

A little off thread topic but since you brought it up ^^ As far a conversation and getting "serious", only get logical every so often. Stick to topics about relationships....friends, her feelings on different subjects like her future, her studies, where she'll live long term, where she wants to travel, car wrecks she's been in, dangerous or crazy shit she did and what it was "like", even past relationships are a decent subject matter.
Women are incapable of staying attracted when you discuss logic or scientific subjects. Stay away from technology, cars, engineering, science subjects,etc. When you think about it, it's amazing how simple minded they can be. I've found once a girl warms up to you and you get her talking about something girls like (emotional/friend/ social media stuff) they'll just ramble on and on and they feel they're "confiding" in you.
I had one girl do this on a first date. After a while, she said "I don't know why I'm telling you all this". I just smiled , nodded my head and asked an occasional follow up question, peppered with occasional "misunderstandings" of a sexual nature. It can get real easy when you get them to this phase.

[Mister X]

I act how I want to depending on mood. If I'm in a goofy mood, I'll act goofy. If a girl finds that a turn off, I'll find someone who doesn't. I can't manage game on the micro level. I have to live my life. I'm only interested in going after girls who like me for me.

[CTking]

Depends on if the girls worth more then a quick fuck or two. If were starting to date and she seems like she might be girlfriend material then yea i would prob break frame every once in a while and be a little goofy.

[monster]

Just curious, how do you define "goofy"? When you say you will act goofy in front of a girl, can you give us an example? Goofy as in silly-dumb, nerdy, geeky, eccentric or something else?

[The_e_man]

(04-19-2015 06:39 PM)monster Wrote:  

Just curious, how do you define "goofy"? When you say you will act goofy in front of a girl, can you give us an example? Goofy as in silly-dumb, nerdy, geeky, eccentric or something else?

More silly / dumb. Just being a clown (but for your own amusement).

[WestIndianArchie]

You can set up the frame such that she accepts things about you that she doesn't like.

That conversation might be to subtle for this one though.


WIA

[Eddie Winslow]

Being goofy is great. This is inherently part of my game.

The only rule is that you need remember to tease and neg the girl, especially if you haven't banged her yet.

-One of my favorites is doing a big exaggerated sniff of a girls' hair. When she looks at me like I'm crazy, I keep a straight face and say "your hair smells pretty OK." (said in a neutral/maybe disapproving tone)

-Dance like an idiot at the bar/club if you like to. If she gives you a crazy look, incorporate some dance moves that make fun of her. Gesture that she smells/just farted, pretend you can't see her if she really short, etc.

-If you are singing songs in the car, throw in some lyrics that make fun of her.

Girls love a goofy asshole, as long as it is congruent to your personality. Also, the girl must never feel that any dirty look or disapproving comment she makes will be able to break your frame and make you stop being goofy. If you do this, she will lose respect for you.

My one friend even playfully tells girls that he has STDs . Once he told a girl "I bet I could kick a field goal through your pussy hole." Everyone in the room was laughing there ass off. Yes, he eventually banged her.

[TravelerKai]

(04-20-2015 05:07 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Being goofy is great. This is inherently part of my game.

The only rule is that you need remember to tease and neg the girl, especially if you haven't banged her yet.

-One of my favorites is doing a big exaggerated sniff of a girls' hair. When she looks at me like I'm crazy, I keep a straight face and say "your hair smells pretty OK." (said in a neutral/maybe disapproving tone)

-Dance like an idiot at the bar/club if you like to. If she gives you a crazy look, incorporate some dance moves that make fun of her. Gesture that she smells/just farted, pretend you can't see her if she really short, etc.

-If you are singing songs in the car, throw in some lyrics that make fun of her.

Girls love a goofy asshole, as long as it is congruent to your personality. Also, the girl must never feel that any dirty look or disapproving comment she makes will be able to break your frame and make you stop being goofy. If you do this, she will lose respect for you.

My one friend even playfully tells girls that he has STDs . Once he told a girl "I bet I could kick a field goal through your pussy hole." Everyone in the room was laughing there ass off. Yes, he eventually banged her.

If you are naturally funny, it is alot easier to sell shock and dark humor like that. If you are not that funny, stick to playful and harmless teasing instead. It's just a safer bet. You do not want a negative reaction because the joke does not match your personality, like Eddie noted above. You really need to know what you are doing if you are going to drop a Tosh.0 style bomb like kicking a field goal through a pussy hole. Leave that to naturally funny guys, for you that might be overkill.

[Cr33pin]

[Saweeep]

If goofy means being a clown, then never.

Nothing in this world could make me behave like some medieval court jester eunuch...certainly not some dumb whore.

Be funny, be amusing; never be a clown.