[Green-On-GO]

Funny thing is the best bloke I know at pick up in all my life is in fact Indian.We went to high school together and were best mates.He was a nerd but really good in cricket and one of the best soccer strikers I've played with.This guy never had a girlfriend or even kissed a girl in high school .He fucked some drunk girl in Uni .He lived in some student house .
Anyway he got the taste and surpassed everyone in regards to pussy.He was picking up chicks on the train in fact trains became his hunting ground for awhile.
He is a salesman from hell very aggressive on the sell or as he says "Reality perception"
His banged 10 or 11 strippers even dated some girls from commercials and been married.He was the guy I thought of as I discovered the world of pick up..
He has an Aussie accent but was not born here.His parents still bust his balls even though he is 43.
The guy gets attention from woman....white woman...he does not lift either...He is in the James Bond vain..Suits, cars etc.

[CodyB]

I think right now that a lot of the poorly received Indians (and Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans) are coming into means, very similar to what is happening with the Mainland Chinese yet still have extremely poor manners relative to what you would expect in the West. I suspect this comes from repressed sexual culture, expectations that sex is given away for free in the west and an unhealthy relationship with parents.

Example, an Indian guy grows up in a traditional Indian household, sexually repressed and somewhat controlled by his parents. Where a generation ago he would not have been able to sniff a visa to a Western Country he, he now comes over to work in IT or something similar because of his qualifications?

You release someone with that cultural upbringing into the highly sexualised western world, they are not going to know how to act! There is an overt over representation of sexual assaults and harassment by people of South Asian descent.

On the other side of the coin you have Indians who come from means, in the upper tier society where English was actually spoken as a first language. Or the second generation cats who grew up in a Western peer group. I know some 5th generation Indian Sikhs in BKK who are cool as shit.

[Beyond Borders]

Go to India and hang out at fashionable clubs without any foreigners. See how well you fit in.

[Rutting Elephant]

^^ or Indian clubs in Singapore for that matter.

[Cobra]

(04-17-2015 08:08 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Go to India and hang out at fashionable clubs without any foreigners. See how well you fit in.

Best post in the thread.

These types of Indian dudes from India are not only maladjusted in the US but cannot pull for their life in large Indian cities in these same clubs. And white guys in those clubs with bad game will make all white guys look bad. Same shit, different country.

So let's limit bad game, bad diet and bad hygiene to just that instead of Indians are this and that.

There are a lot of factors affecting the inner game of an Indian guy that fuck up his approaches or he doesn't approach at all. This has created an external perception that generally Indian guys don't have game. They're just fucked by social programming and unrealistic expectations and can't quite dig themselves out. It's likely going to be easier for a white guy or Indian guy that was born in that particular country and has little or none of that social programming.

I've already beat this to death on the forum though but here we are again.

[future]

(04-16-2015 11:58 PM)Vronsky Wrote:  

I've met upper class Indian guys who assimilated well after a couple of years in Canada...good physiques and socially intelligent. They have accents but its not the stereotypical Apu accent. More refined.

Haha, this sounds exactly like me. I'm a first-generation Indian living in Canada for 6 years and have a "refined" accent.

Anyway, my view is that most Indian guys do have bad game and it's mainly because of poor hygiene, horrible sense of fashion, and a belief that humility is a good thing. Plus, India being a more conservative country, you don't get any game education at all in high school. I think things have changed by now, but when I went to high school (in 2002) no one was really trying to get laid. Completely whipped guys who had a demanding girlfriend for two years were considered cool. So you had no standards to compare yourself with.

Things are better with the upper class people though. They at least have good hygiene and a better english (and a better accent, because accent in India is a status indicator, just like in Britain). And they grow up watching American movies and sitcoms, so they know the culture better. I think if you are one of these people, then you can still pull regularly in the US/Canada. It all depends on the effort. I get decent results when I go out and approach.