[GlockTrigga]

In my opinion one of the best countries is Costa Rica. The environment purifies any evil that could possibly germinate in a Woman's soul. It is the cross-roads of Latin America and the political and social history have made for very wholesome Women loyal, ready to have a family and support their Man. Great mix of Caribbean, indigenous central american and European (Spaniard) heritage and culture. It was almost impossible to find any escorts in the region which indicates that Women are accessible and demand is low for that reason - But this is also partly due to the religion which is definitely stronger than in countries like Spain who are catholic now only in name and facade.

[jariel]

(04-07-2015 10:23 AM)GlockTrigga Wrote:  

In my opinion one of the best countries is Costa Rica. The environment purifies any evil that could possibly germinate in a Woman's soul. It is the cross-roads of Latin America and the political and social history have made for very wholesome Women loyal, ready to have a family and support their Man. Great mix of Caribbean, indigenous central american and European (Spaniard) heritage and culture. It was almost impossible to find any escorts in the region which indicates that Women are accessible and demand is low for that reason

[reco2100]

(04-07-2015 10:23 AM)GlockTrigga Wrote:  

In my opinion one of the best countries is Costa Rica. The environment purifies any evil that could possibly germinate in a Woman's soul. It is the cross-roads of Latin America and the political and social history have made for very wholesome Women loyal, ready to have a family and support their Man. Great mix of Caribbean, indigenous central american and European (Spaniard) heritage and culture. It was almost impossible to find any escorts in the region which indicates that Women are accessible and demand is low for that reason - But this is also partly due to the religion which is definitely stronger than in countries like Spain who are catholic now only in name and facade.

You had till the escort part. Been there and in certain cities like Jaco it was hard to find women that were not escorts. Prostitutuin isn't legal there and the prostitutes come from all over the world to work in some regions.

Not my cup of tea so it was a hassle t think I was doing well with a chick and then find that she is a hooker.

[blacknwhitespade]

Okay, so I've been communicating online with a few women from Mexico and Colombia. These girls are attractive and seem genuine, they definitely have a different kind of speech from the way things flow in convo with an American woman. They seem eager to push things forward and are more blunt about asking serious questions about a plausible relationship, what I am looking for, etc. One of them is a student and has already invited me to come down and meet her.

For those who have gotten started with the online route, what are some good tips/pointers as to how to go about this? I'm not just looking for random bangs with slutty women, and of course I don't wanna get hosed, are there some good questions/tests that I can ask them, ways that I can present myself or communicate with them, so as to differentiate between the genuine and the scammers, between the quality ones and the hood rats? I get the advice about downplaying your networth, I'm a middle-class guy anyways (by USA standards), good Engineering field job.. I am just talking to them about common interests, family, travels, etc so far while hinting a little about my job.

[newgame]

(04-07-2015 03:26 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

For those who have gotten started with the online route, what are some good tips/pointers as to how to go about this? I'm not just looking for random bangs with slutty women, and of course I don't wanna get hosed, are there some good questions/tests that I can ask them, ways that I can present myself or communicate with them, so as to differentiate between the genuine and the scammers, between the quality ones and the hood rats? I get the advice about downplaying your networth, I'm a middle-class guy anyways, just talking to them about common interests, family, travels, etc so far while hinting a little about my job.

It depends on what you're looking for...

In Colombia:

If you're just looking for the hottest, youngest, and most loyal girl possible without considering education/intelligence, similar interests, etc, then I would talk mostly with the girls outside of the major cities. These girls are bored, desperate, usually more traditional, less likely to be on the gringo carousel, and are more willing to move out of the country. For these girls it should be easy to lock one down just by landing in the country. Since this type of girl is marrying to escape her situation, don't be surprised if she leaves you when she has some cash and stability and sees a chance to upgrade.

If you are looking for someone with more in common, better educated, more Americanized, then maybe Bogota; they're in other cities too, but Bogota seems to have the highest concentration of educated girls. You would probably have to go the more relationship route by establishing commonalities, building trust, wining and dining, etc to marry a girl like this. This girl should know what she's getting into and will most likely marry for love and maybe be less likely to leave you later.

Either type of these girls could burn you though. I wouldn't even consider marrying one of these online chicks without spending at least several months in her hometown to see how she interacts with her friends and family and then maybe taking her back to your country for a year or so.

[blacknwhitespade]

(04-07-2015 03:55 PM)newgame Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 03:26 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

For those who have gotten started with the online route, what are some good tips/pointers as to how to go about this? I'm not just looking for random bangs with slutty women, and of course I don't wanna get hosed, are there some good questions/tests that I can ask them, ways that I can present myself or communicate with them, so as to differentiate between the genuine and the scammers, between the quality ones and the hood rats? I get the advice about downplaying your networth, I'm a middle-class guy anyways, just talking to them about common interests, family, travels, etc so far while hinting a little about my job.

It depends on what you're looking for...

In Colombia:

If you're just looking for the hottest, youngest, and most loyal girl possible without considering education/intelligence, similar interests, etc, then I would talk mostly with the girls outside of the major cities. These girls are bored, desperate, usually more traditional, less likely to be on the gringo carousel, and are more willing to move out of the country. For these girls it should be easy to lock one down just by landing in the country. Since this type of girl is marrying to escape her situation, don't be surprised if she leaves you when she has some cash and stability and sees a chance to upgrade.

If you are looking for someone with more in common, better educated, more Americanized, then maybe Bogota; they're in other cities too, but Bogota seems to have the highest concentration of educated girls. You would probably have to go the more relationship route by establishing commonalities, building trust, wining and dining, etc to marry a girl like this. This girl should know what she's getting into and will most likely marry for love and maybe be less likely to leave you later.

Either type of these girls could burn you though. I wouldn't even consider marrying one of these online chicks without spending at least several months in her hometown to see how she interacts with her friends and family and then maybe taking her back to your country for a year or so.

Interesting. One of the girls I am talking to is a school teacher in Bogota, another one is a professional worker in Ciudad Mexico, and then there's the student, she's late-20s and also lives in a major Mexican city and attends a big university. All these girls appear to be middle-class hispanics from decent families, are religious, speak English, and have their own resources (job, education,...).

[scotian]

Don't sexualize the conversation unless she starts to first, a lot of guys on here (myself included) have lost girls like that.

[Geomann180]

(04-07-2015 05:55 PM)scotian Wrote:  

Don't sexualize the conversation unless she starts to first, a lot of guys on here (myself included) have lost girls like that.

I'm dating an El Salvadorian who was a virgin when I met her.

I waited until I discovered she read 50 Shades of Gray before I made any mentions of sex (about a month or two after I started talking to her).

G

[el mechanico]

How about never sexualize any conversation no matter where you are in the world???

Just lead. I see this fail over and over since the 80s or even 70s that I can remember.

[Merenguero]

(04-07-2015 09:32 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

How about never sexualize any conversation no matter where you are in the world???

Just lead. I see this fail over and over since the 80s or even 70s that I can remember.

The only times I ever hear about guys sexualizing the conversation is on this forum and from girls I meet who tell me about some beta who they met who did that. P.S. I end up banging most of those girls.

[TigerMandingo]

(04-07-2015 09:32 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

How about never sexualize any conversation no matter where you are in the world???

Why not? It works.

[Mentavious]

Girls end up doing it first with me anyways.

[TravelerKai]

(04-07-2015 03:55 PM)newgame Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 03:26 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

For those who have gotten started with the online route, what are some good tips/pointers as to how to go about this? I'm not just looking for random bangs with slutty women, and of course I don't wanna get hosed, are there some good questions/tests that I can ask them, ways that I can present myself or communicate with them, so as to differentiate between the genuine and the scammers, between the quality ones and the hood rats? I get the advice about downplaying your networth, I'm a middle-class guy anyways, just talking to them about common interests, family, travels, etc so far while hinting a little about my job.

It depends on what you're looking for...

In Colombia:

If you're just looking for the hottest, youngest, and most loyal girl possible without considering education/intelligence, similar interests, etc, then I would talk mostly with the girls outside of the major cities. These girls are bored, desperate, usually more traditional, less likely to be on the gringo carousel, and are more willing to move out of the country. For these girls it should be easy to lock one down just by landing in the country. Since this type of girl is marrying to escape her situation, don't be surprised if she leaves you when she has some cash and stability and sees a chance to upgrade.

If you are looking for someone with more in common, better educated, more Americanized, then maybe Bogota; they're in other cities too, but Bogota seems to have the highest concentration of educated girls. You would probably have to go the more relationship route by establishing commonalities, building trust, wining and dining, etc to marry a girl like this. This girl should know what she's getting into and will most likely marry for love and maybe be less likely to leave you later.

Either type of these girls could burn you though. I wouldn't even consider marrying one of these online chicks without spending at least several months in her hometown to see how she interacts with her friends and family and then maybe taking her back to your country for a year or so.

Another pro tip that works no matter what country, is to identify women that are very comfortable with staying in their home country. That is how you can shit test/screen-out thirsty green card bitches out. Be sure to tell them that you are interested in also living in their home country. See how enthusiastic they are about that prospect. Good girls that are more middle-middle/middle-upper classed are more comfortable staying in their home country, splitting time between both, etc. They actually have to leave something to leave behind for the love of you, unlike a desperate chick that has absolutely nothing to lose. Love = Sacrifice. Nuff said.

Watch out for rich girls because alot of them will demand you either split too much time between both your place of origin and theirs. They have alot to lose and often times they live like kings and queens in their home country, but would be a middling in the US. They may even bring that up before you will. I had that problem twice. My wife is kinda middle-upper, but she only cares to be where I am at, China or the US, does not matter. I also recognized her interest in travel in general, because she worked in the travel industry before I met her, she is never afraid to go somewhere with me.

Most Latinos are not apprehensive about leaving their place of origin as much as Asians are, but there is a large contingent of Mexicans that will never leave Mexico, unless the violence where they live is too strong. Even then, they might just move to another state or the capital instead. I personally know a few Mexican dudes that had girlfriends down there that refused to move to Texas even!

Just keep all this in the back of your mind and be sure to bring it up once she passes all of your preliminary checks.

[aliciaduffys]

I want to prefer you Mexico for a romantic girlfriend and wife.

[HighBaller]

what is the chances of getting a serious gf with lack of spanish?

[newgame]

(04-10-2015 02:37 PM)HighBaller Wrote:  

what is the chances of getting a serious gf with lack of spanish?

I know a guy who met a Mexican girl online that was 30 years younger than him and married her without knowing Spanish. She's a nice, upper-middle class girl; I'd rate her a 6. They seem to really be in love. She got a visa out of it; now she supports him while he takes care of the house. Even though he's 30 years her senior he has a little game; he's a really funny and friendly guy and looks young for his age, but he's still pretty beta.

If the girl is desperate and you provide her a way out, she's not going to care about language initially. If you want to get a higher-quality girl and build a lasting relationship, I think you should learn at least intermediate Spanish. If you spend 3-6 months learning the language, I think you could have conversations with the help of google translate, which would go a long way.

[jariel]

Mexico divorce rate map...

[TravelerKai]

That correlates pretty nicely with what I posted yesterday.

My recommendation for Mexico is based on alot of this and personal experience in my own inner circles.

[jariel]

(05-08-2015 07:46 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

That correlates pretty nicely with what I posted yesterday.

My recommendation for Mexico is based on alot of this and personal experience in my own inner circles.

[Akula]

(04-07-2015 09:25 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

I looove Spanish women. They have beautiful features. Have been to Spain four times and have a few friends in Madrid and Barcelona. It seems though, that Spain is going the way of the EU and the rest of western europe. The women are still attractive, noticeably more in-shape, feminine, and fashionable than American women, but I've nonetheless encountered a lot of feminist attitudes and secular values in the women. I've noticed the shift from when I first went there as an exchange student in the late 90s, and can see the difference between the younger millenial women versus the older Spanish women, just like I see the difference in American millenials vs gen-xers and baby boomers. Noticeable decay. 90% of Spain still "identifies" as Catholic Christian, but anyone who has spent some time there will see that religion only plays a cultural/historical role at best amongst most Spaniards. It's not as way-gone as Netherlands or Sweden, but I sense finding a traditional/religious woman in Spain would be more challenging than Mexico or other parts of Latin America where you can still find lots of conservative Catholic (and Protestant) women who are not tainted with the liberal/secular values that Spain is now sadly getting infected with.

I'm in Spain now for a bit and the above seems very true to me. I used to date a Spanish girl many years ago and I can see now how the older generation here are better dressed and more feminine in general than the younger girls I see. Still they seem to be much better as you said re the rest of the west, and family & friends still are very important here, which keeps crazy feminism at bay. But I think for marriage material while better than say the US or UK there's no way they'd compete with most of the Latin American crowd (esp. from the second tier cities). I mean look at that chart above re divorce - Mexico's worst state is still just around 12%+ on average (versus 50+% back home).

Anyway, having read this, I'd love to get down to Mexico some time and check it out now. Just wondering how 40-something dudes can do down there though (and where you go to meet the top 20% - I can only assume there is not as deep a bench in Mexico as there is in Brazil/Colombia and EE).

[Vaun]

(04-07-2015 09:51 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 09:32 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

How about never sexualize any conversation no matter where you are in the world???

Just lead. I see this fail over and over since the 80s or even 70s that I can remember.

The only times I ever hear about guys sexualizing the conversation is on this forum and from girls I meet who tell me about some beta who they met who did that. P.S. I end up banging most of those girls.

a good rule of thumb for any woman.

[Ambact]

(05-08-2015 04:02 PM)Akula Wrote:  

Just wondering how 40-something dudes can do down there though (and where you go to meet the top 20% - I can only assume there is not as deep a bench in Mexico as there is in Brazil/Colombia and EE).

Regarding 40-somethings, an acceptable Age Gap in Mexico is probably, 10-15 years... it's certainly not as good as in SEA...

I don't know rural or second-tier Mexico though... Anyway, the "top 20%" in Mexico are the famous fresas, difficult to game (they are the gamers) and on top of that, not all that beautiful, comparing with EE... I mean, you'll have to put in a lot of time and game, to get in the pants of a fresa, and is she really worth it?

[rudebwoy]

(04-08-2015 06:52 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 03:55 PM)newgame Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 03:26 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

For those who have gotten started with the online route, what are some good tips/pointers as to how to go about this? I'm not just looking for random bangs with slutty women, and of course I don't wanna get hosed, are there some good questions/tests that I can ask them, ways that I can present myself or communicate with them, so as to differentiate between the genuine and the scammers, between the quality ones and the hood rats? I get the advice about downplaying your networth, I'm a middle-class guy anyways, just talking to them about common interests, family, travels, etc so far while hinting a little about my job.

It depends on what you're looking for...

In Colombia:

If you're just looking for the hottest, youngest, and most loyal girl possible without considering education/intelligence, similar interests, etc, then I would talk mostly with the girls outside of the major cities. These girls are bored, desperate, usually more traditional, less likely to be on the gringo carousel, and are more willing to move out of the country. For these girls it should be easy to lock one down just by landing in the country. Since this type of girl is marrying to escape her situation, don't be surprised if she leaves you when she has some cash and stability and sees a chance to upgrade.

If you are looking for someone with more in common, better educated, more Americanized, then maybe Bogota; they're in other cities too, but Bogota seems to have the highest concentration of educated girls. You would probably have to go the more relationship route by establishing commonalities, building trust, wining and dining, etc to marry a girl like this. This girl should know what she's getting into and will most likely marry for love and maybe be less likely to leave you later.

Either type of these girls could burn you though. I wouldn't even consider marrying one of these online chicks without spending at least several months in her hometown to see how she interacts with her friends and family and then maybe taking her back to your country for a year or so.

Another pro tip that works no matter what country, is to identify women that are very comfortable with staying in their home country. That is how you can shit test/screen-out thirsty green card bitches out. Be sure to tell them that you are interested in also living in their home country. See how enthusiastic they are about that prospect. Good girls that are more middle-middle/middle-upper classed are more comfortable staying in their home country, splitting time between both, etc. They actually have to leave something to leave behind for the love of you, unlike a desperate chick that has absolutely nothing to lose. Love = Sacrifice. Nuff said.

Watch out for rich girls because alot of them will demand you either split too much time between both your place of origin and theirs. They have alot to lose and often times they live like kings and queens in their home country, but would be a middling in the US. They may even bring that up before you will. I had that problem twice. My wife is kinda middle-upper, but she only cares to be where I am at, China or the US, does not matter. I also recognized her interest in travel in general, because she worked in the travel industry before I met her, she is never afraid to go somewhere with me.

Most Latinos are not apprehensive about leaving their place of origin as much as Asians are, but there is a large contingent of Mexicans that will never leave Mexico, unless the violence where they live is too strong. Even then, they might just move to another state or the capital instead. I personally know a few Mexican dudes that had girlfriends down there that refused to move to Texas even!

Just keep all this in the back of your mind and be sure to bring it up once she passes all of your preliminary checks.

Kai this is so money. Everytime I go away and meet a girl, by buddy always claims that the girl wants to move to Canada.
Some people need to realize that their are other countries worth living besides those in the West.

[blacknwhitespade]

I have a question for those of you whom have found gfs/wives in Mexico or other foreign countries:

What are some tips for how to hold frame with a woman while you're in the United States for the time being? I've visited a girl for a weekend in Mexico, we're still communicating and I've told her that I'd like her to come visit me in the US soon. Although she's a middle-class Mexican, she seems scared to meet my family and maybe a little xenophobic about the USA in general. She was asking me a lot of questions the first few days after my visit, including a few tests, which I nailed, now I am asking her some questions to re-frame while charming her towards coming to visit me, which she's agreed to do now and has warmed up to me a lot more. Still, it seems a little shaky given the distance, I've never done long-distance of any kind, let alone a girl in another country/culture. How do you guys go about courting/leading these girls via a LDR in the early stages from your perch in the USA?

[Travesty]

Some have pointed out that Northern Mexico, Hermosillo and Monterrey were better wife hunting grounds than GDL, DF, and certainly the party beach cities. The reason described as the women being taller, thinner, better features and attitudes than down south.

How then would one explain that those two states are higher than GDL and DF's states?

(05-06-2015 01:20 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Mexico divorce rate map...