[AneroidOcean]

(11-30-2017 06:41 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

It does not matter if those areas have a "vibrant gay scene" or its meant ironically.
The fact that he mentions faggot themes over and over and over (even as a joke) reveals his preferences.
I would not be surprised if his hidden faggot preferences is why his wife (if he was ever married) left him.

Making gay jokes makes you gay..

You assert his wife left him while in the same sentence imply he was never married.



Your logic is astounding.

[Mercenary]

There's more:


Close up photo of "cock and balls" of a statue from PJW's instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF2TcJSDtFq/...sephwatson



and this:

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and this:

[url=https://twitter.com/caolanrob/status/868276084348919808?lang=en]

[Conscious Pirate]

Yes. I'm sure there's a gay nightclub out there somewhere called Prison Planet too. Def a butty boy.

[Plus Oultre]

Controlled opposition to what? Controlled opposition was the Soviet Revolution to counter balance and "oppose" the West. There are many spheres of power and struggles among and between them. If you think Alex Jones is controlled opposition then you agree that Donald Trump is controlled opposition- and you might as well do-, because if it wasn't for his push, DJT wouldn't be president. Does it mean you agree with all one person thinks, says, or does? No .... what I think is that there is a controlled movement, to what Trump is the visible leader, that is opposing what it is the current controller sphere in the West. I could be wrong. There is so much more to power; these groups even work with the opposition when convenient/appropriate and if will help their cause. Optics sometimes causes us to misread things. Just think about it.

[Agastya]

This is guy is absolutely an asset to whatever front we are a part of. Many don't realize this but there actually are a lot of minorities, women, and centrist white people who agree with a lot of what the Alt Right is saying (minus the racist horse shit from Richard Spencer or Alex Jones' inane trolling). Guys like this are a moderate voice that simply speak the truth. Calling him gay, a cuck, or "Alt-Lite" is pretty counterproductive IMO and honestly reminds me of liberals eating their own for not being progressive enough.

[Leonard D Neubache]

He called out Trump for RTing Britian First.

He didn't need to say anything about it. All he needed to do was shut up.

We can see him as a beneficial character for now, but eventually when the insanity is being rolled back (God willing) we're going to find him on the other side of the trenches.

[Kona]

(11-30-2017 05:38 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Making gay jokes makes you gay..

If that is true people must think im a mix of Elton John aids and Seattle all put together. Ive probably made five dozen gay jokes today.

These right wing guys gotta start bringing some positive to the table. A whole lot of the stuff, including this Watson guy is just negative observational stuff.

Aloha!

[Rush87]

I don't trust gays. Milo included. Their subversive self interests are always at the core of what they do. Not sure whether PJW is gay. Also not sure that he isn't.

Might seem unfair but if he's going to be a voice for the right, as far as I'm concerned, I'd like to be certain he's a straight, red blooded male.

[BallsDeep]

(11-30-2017 03:47 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

If it talks like a fag, writes like a fag and acts like a fag...

Its a fag.

Or he's British.

[Cobra]

So you guys want to troll liberals for eating their own but then want to burn this guy and eat him alive?

The problem with some conservatives especially far right, is that they want to burn anyone for criticising their core beliefs revealing no openness towards people that happen to be different.

Listen, people's sexual preferences disgust me if they are not straight. That said, I don't give a shit about it as long as they have character and can take a joke or ball busting.

Sensitivity is not exclusive to liberals as is obvious from this thread. I mean holy shit.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Nope. We're not saying he needs to be 'fired' from Twitter.

We're just sending a clear message that sometimes he needs to shut those pretty boy lips.

[911]

Basically, either he's gay, or he's pandering and virtue signaling.

[Conscious Pirate]

Or he doesn't hate gays? I know, despite abhorring their choices & the pandering they receive, that gays do not threaten me, my happiness or the family I will create. If I do feel threatened, that's on me to work through & do something about.

Which is why my children will be homeschooled. By me. That's the kind of commitment it takes to not feel threatened by faggots.

And that's why I think this whole debate about PJW's sexuality is like listening to women discuss.... well... anything.

[Conscious Pirate]

(11-30-2017 07:19 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

Yes. I'm sure there's a gay nightclub out there somewhere called Prison Planet too. Def a butty boy.

Now that I'm not on the phone...

[Teedub]

[Agastya]

(11-30-2017 08:58 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

He called out Trump for RTing Britian First.

He didn't need to say anything about it. All he needed to do was shut up.

We can see him as a beneficial character for now, but eventually when the insanity is being rolled back (God willing) we're going to find him on the other side of the trenches.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gather Britain First has an absolutely awful reputation in England, something like what the KKK has in the states. Him retweeting this may very well be bad optics.

Bad optics, for the record, absolutely are a thing. Some examples of bad optics include:

Unfuckable trailer trash marching around with tiki torches and screaming "Jew will not replace us".

Mike Brown's mother telling a crowd of black people to burn entire neighborhoods to the ground.

Hillary Clinton laughing after Gadaffi got sodomized by a bayonet.

All of which are things that alienated millions of normal people to the causes associated with each event. The events I listed above all heavily damaged the reputation of the Alt Right, BLM, and the Clinton campaign, and only serve to further divide and degrade the country. People shouldn't completely pander to political opinions, obviously, but they should be cognizant of how their actions look.

If people are calling PJW a fag for simply calling this out, their arguments have no merit. I don't think he's controlled opposition at all, just one of the millions of people who won't cuck for Trump's every action. I could care less if he doesn't despise gay people, he makes very good criticisms of Islam and modern liberal trends. And he does it in a way that most normal people could sympathize with and understand.

[Horus]

(12-01-2017 04:20 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gather Britain First has an absolutely awful reputation in England, something like what the KKK has in the states. Him retweeting this may very well be bad optics.

Bad optics, for the record, absolutely are a thing. Some examples of bad optics include:

Unfuckable trailer trash marching around with tiki torches and screaming "Jew will not replace us".

Mike Brown's mother telling a crowd of black people to burn entire neighborhoods to the ground.

Hillary Clinton laughing after Gadaffi got sodomized by a bayonet.

All of which are things that alienated millions of normal people to the causes associated with each event. The events I listed above all heavily damaged the reputation of the Alt Right, BLM, and the Clinton campaign, and only serve to further divide and degrade the country. People shouldn't completely pander to political opinions, obviously, but they should be cognizant of how their actions look.

Donald Trump is not Hilary Clinton, nor is he Mike Brown's mother. How many times have we heard news stories that Trump has made some unforgiveable statement from which he will never recover?

Remember when he announced his presisdency and the media midpresented his speech as "All Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers?" That was the end of his presidential campaign apparantly. In reality, all it did was to cause some people to look up the facts and find out the truth that, "Holy shit! Look at the rape and drug offending statistics of illegal immigrants compared to all other groups." The Trump train was born.

Then he committed the sin of calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontus, a sin from which he would not recover. People looked up the facts and found out, "Holy shit! Did you know that this prominent senator once pretended to be an Indian to get a cushy job?" A few more people joined the Trump train.

Then the pussy grabbing tapes came out. Surely that was the end. The people looked it up. "Holy shit! Look at the sexual misconduct allegations against the husband of his opponent. That's nothing compared to a little locker room talk." A few more joined the Trump train.

Then he made some comment about attacks which happened in Sweden the night before, and everyone guffawed because there was no Swedish attacks reported in the media. So people looked it up. "Holy shit! It looks like there were riots and cars set on fire last night in Gothenberg, and there are on a regular basis. Turns out he is right." And a few more took their seat on the Trump train.

Now he retweets some videos from a controversial group in UK. What will the response be? Do you really think this will hurt him? Of course not. People will look it up and discover, "Holy shit! Muslim attacks across Europe are a common and increasingly common occurance, and the same thing could happen here if we don't do something about it now." And a few more people will join the Trump train.

With Trump there is no such thing as bad optics, at least not so far. He is simply laying out the facts, making a case, and allowing people to discover the truth for themselves.

[Agastya]

^Actually, you have a point, I retract my previous argument. The guy has generally been doing little more than call out the facts. I still think autism on the part of the alt right will damage its reputation -- no one wants to be associated with legitimate racists or Nazis -- but optics definitely does work differently for Trump.

[Conscious Pirate]

Scott Adams wrote a whole book about it.

[debeguiled]

(11-30-2017 11:24 PM)911 Wrote:  

Basically, either he's gay, or he's pandering and virtue signaling.

Or butt whistling.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-01-2017 04:55 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

^Actually, you have a point, I retract my previous argument. The guy has generally been doing little more than call out the facts. I still think autism on the part of the alt right will damage its reputation -- no one wants to be associated with legitimate racists or Nazis -- but optics definitely does work differently for Trump.

It also pays to recognise how far people are going to dig for the truth themselves, and the answer is usually "not far".

The media has been calling Trump a Nazi for over a year now. It's falling on deaf ears. So when he RTs those videos from a "Nazi" source people shrug it off as simply more lugenpresse hysteria. They watch the videos (and are affected by them as desired) but few would have bothered to research who Britian First was and those that did would have found out that they're not much more than some Brits who have actually claimed their nationalist Christian balls back.

Britain First gets a huge boost. Progbrits are BTFO. The media keeps spinning its wheels. Muslim invaders are BTFO.

Trump RT'd 3 videos, not one. That says "this is not some random brain fart". Not that I think the man operates on that level at any time, but 3 videos rather than one makes it very clear it's not a case of him just coming across a video on his feed and hitting the RT button before his judgement gets the better of him.

Muslims beat up white boy on crutches.
Muslims toss gays(?) off of roof.
Muslims smash statue of Virgin Mary (close enough to Christmas).

He has instantly signalled to a vast body of the West "don't worry, I GET IT..." and all that it implies.

Political correctness has been BTFO. If the Leader-Of-The-Free-World™ can RT the truth about islam then none of us plebs have to knuckle under and shut our pleb mouths any longer.

AFAIC those optics are just fine.

[Super_Fire]

(12-01-2017 04:20 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

Bad optics, for the record, absolutely are a thing. Some examples of bad optics include:

Unfuckable trailer trash marching around with tiki torches and screaming "Jew will not replace us".

Mike Brown's mother telling a crowd of black people to burn entire neighborhoods to the ground.

Hillary Clinton laughing after Gadaffi got sodomized by a bayonet.

And in all of those cases, those people knew that what they were doing, without remorse. They knew it would stir up shit, or in Hillary's case, was just her evil nature.

Trump retweeting some group he, and 99% of Americans has never heard of, to prove a (true) point about Islam is not Trump's "basket of deplorables" moment.

Not even close.

[Rush87]

I don't think anyone here 'hates' gays. No idea where that's come from. There's a difference between have a yarn with a bloke at a pub and knowing whether a popular right leaning talking head is gay. I grew up with a guy who turned out to be gay. Still friends with him today. He's an alright bloke, but we're talking politics here. It's significant because if someone is gay, invariably an agenda is behind what they're saying.

[kuros]

I am glad PJW is back in full force:

[Thrill Jackson]

PJW basically sums up this forum's overall outlook