[bnb]

Nice write-up. Have a link to some of these places so I can browse the photos? I'm partial to cute skinny brunettes myself.

[Laner]

Thanks for the data. I am off to Wraclaw tomorrow.

I used Mixx link for apartments so I will do a write up when I can. I am staying my first night in a hotel so I can get some "extras" like concierge and dry cleaning. Also to get my bearings.

Puro Hotel

I am going to take RyanAir. Kind of going against my better judgement but for a last minute flight it suits me. My experience with EasyJet was actually quite good so might as well give RyanAir a shot.

[MMA]

As far as logistics in Wroclaw. Is it best to stay around Market Square? Or is there a better place?

[polish rumble]

(07-04-2012 12:25 AM)MMA Wrote:  

Is it best to stay around Market Square? Or is there a better place?

If you got such opportunity than go for it, it's always the most prestigious part of the city, 'wow factor' guaranteed

Though, visiting any polish city during the summer holiday time should be deeply thought cuz it's not the best time to do it

[Rurik]

I went to cafe manana, got there at about 10pm left at about 12:30am. did about 6-7 approaches. One didn't speak english, another one gave me a weird look. The other 5 hooked for at least a bit. I wasn't really running much game, just trying to play up that I'm a foreigner. I was dressed well, and even made-up my hair with some pomade.

the venue was decent until about 11:30, when it went from being a little underpopulated, to completely jam packed, with no room to dance, get to the bar, or go through to the bathroom.

Early on, I was posted up by the bar, and macking on everything that came to get a drink. the problem was that girls were taking their drinks immediately and moving to another area, unlike what roosh was saying in his latest video that you should wait for the girl to get the drink, that would have not been good strategy here.

The interactions were short. Dance floor game seems to matter here quite a bit. My dance floor game is basically non-existent.

Honestly, I don't really know what to make of poland. It doesn't seem that great. You still need game, and you need to approach, and if you don't dance you're at a distinct disadvantage.

I've been reading bang poland, trying to make sense of things. Roosh says that he got one night stands during the summer in Wroclaw, but then goes on to say that going to poland in summer is not a good choice. At other points he talks about going for weeks without getting a girl, but then mentions getting lots of one night stands. what makes the difference in poland?

Also, I've been using badoo and it's pretty worthless. good luck getting a girl off of that.

[Greek kamaki]

In Poland if you speak polish you kill it.Even if you do not speak polish there are plenty of chances.Since they leave you chance to play ball it is easy.As I have said polish girls allow you to run high game.This means that all the guys in the periphery become irrelevant ASAP.Other nationalities do not allow you to run high game.Also polish girls are approachable even to guys with very mediocre looks.By having Balkan mediteranean looks one stands out.The first reaction I get is always positive.After that it depends on technique.If you are experienced with slavic girls polish girls are just another variation.Ukrainian girls will tell you everything you need to game polish girls they tell you everything because they suppose you are a dumb foreigner.Polish girls will tell you a 50% of what you need by pillow talk.So the more you get the easier it becomes.
They also tend to introduce you to their girlfriends,relatives which you can handle in a row if you create good reputation.There it is essential to speak polish.Polish guys are good fellas and if they find you O.K. they do not bother.I also do not bother if a Pole fucks a girlfriend of mine I mean after all they belong to them.

A key aspect is that polish girls do what is in their interest.So you have to persuade or imply to them somehow that sleeping with you is in their interest.
Another key aspect is that they date simultaneously very different kinds of men.Often they go for established older married men who present no trouble.They can also go for men in the range of 30-35 years old with the intention to marry them.But sometimes they only want sex(1 or 2 times a month they can be very horny).When they want to have sex they often call an ex-boyfriend because sex with him is guaranteed to provide them pleasure.So a polish girl's ex is never an ex you should keep this in mind.They may kee an army of ex's in their side to support them and be available for sex when they want it.
As a Balkan individual you have to be aware of the local culture and not fall into the common traps thinking that the innocent looking polish girl who tells in front of you how much she likes your penis is an angel.The innocence and naivery they display are a trap in reality they want hardcore banging and are prone to experimentations(big dicks,gangbangs,threesomes,bondage etc).
Generally it is difficult to describe in a few sentences the complex reality of polish girls we take them as they are.

[chochemonger1]

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

I went to cafe manana, got there at about 10pm left at about 12:30am. did about 6-7 approaches. One didn't speak english, another one gave me a weird look. The other 5 hooked for at least a bit. I wasn't really running much game, just trying to play up that I'm a foreigner. I was dressed well, and even made-up my hair with some pomade.

the venue was decent until about 11:30, when it went from being a little underpopulated, to completely jam packed, with no room to dance, get to the bar, or go through to the bathroom.

Early on, I was posted up by the bar, and macking on everything that came to get a drink. the problem was that girls were taking their drinks immediately and moving to another area, unlike what roosh was saying in his latest video that you should wait for the girl to get the drink, that would have not been good strategy here.

The interactions were short. Dance floor game seems to matter here quite a bit. My dance floor game is basically non-existent.

Honestly, I don't really know what to make of poland. It doesn't seem that great. You still need game, and you need to approach, and if you don't dance you're at a distinct disadvantage.

I've been reading bang poland, trying to make sense of things. Roosh says that he got one night stands during the summer in Wroclaw, but then goes on to say that going to poland in summer is not a good choice. At other points he talks about going for weeks without getting a girl, but then mentions getting lots of one night stands. what makes the difference in poland?

Also, I've been using badoo and it's pretty worthless. good luck getting a girl off of that.

Rurik, I will be in Poland in less than a month and have also tried using Badoo to no avail. Maybe try some of the pay sites...like Sympatia or Polish hearts. I get the feeling Poland wont be that easy until you get acclimated to the girls and the culture. Also, as Roosh said, Poland is only good for 4 months of the year. Once the university girls started coming back in late September, things changed for him completely.

[XXL]

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

the venue was decent until about 11:30, when it went from being a little underpopulated, to completely jam packed, with no room to dance, get to the bar, or go through to the bathroom.

it's common thing. this is why i hit up the venue around midnight when people are warmed up and ready for some fun.

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

Early on, I was posted up by the bar, and macking on everything that came to get a drink. the problem was that girls were taking their drinks immediately and moving to another area, unlike what roosh was saying in his latest video that you should wait for the girl to get the drink, that would have not been good strategy here.

no need to wait for them. you can approach whenever you can. order your drink (or not) and just go talk to them.

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

The interactions were short. Dance floor game seems to matter here quite a bit. My dance floor game is basically non-existent.

if it's club then dancefloor is the heart of the party. what's funny as long as you feel very comfortable and relaxed you don't need to dance well or at all. people judge your vibe. yesterday i saw polish version of fat joe on the dancefloor and all he did was holding his drink and bouncing/moving hips from left to right with 2 cute girls to some 50 cent song.

so key thing.. have fun there. be playful and play around. never ever be worry about dancing well or shit like that, it's a myth, i'm telling you. beside, standards are low, most guys can't dance too but some of them just stand and stare, some act stupid, some try to dance but feel stiff, some actually dance but sporadically, basically.. dancefloor is like a fucking joke. hit it up and mess around wit smile on our face and you're good. anyone who tells you otherwise blows in out of proportion.

me, i don't really dance, i can't actually, but i know how to move thanks to m.jackson music videos hahaha.. so i just move a bit. but i never dance when i approach. (if not eye contact) i walk up with strong presence to catch her attention then tap tap or take hand and spin. (if i have eye contact) i take her hand and move with her or i just get really close, say few words, take her hand or grab hips, something direct OR if i'm really on fire i do that 'hand of god' thing (reach out hand and wait for her to take it, then pull in close to you. it's risky, you need to be in the zone to pull that off well cause that move highlights your vibe so if you feel rather off it will be weak)

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

Honestly, I don't really know what to make of poland. It doesn't seem that great. You still need game, and you need to approach, and if you don't dance you're at a distinct disadvantage.

maybe IN DA CLUB in my signature will give you some perspective


in short, nightgame is messy and you can't treat it seriously. it's pure comedy, no rejection is real, no kiss means anything. it's all fun and games until someone gets fucked (credit: Distant Light)

[Greek kamaki]

At some point you need to dance with polish girls because they invite you to dance with them.True if your dancing sucks it will show.On the other hand you have to dance.So you do it despite it can cause problem.If you do not dance it is likely that a guy in the dance floor will approach and grind with the girl you have warmed up by talking to.In all these cases I do not care.It depends how strong you are as a magnet.If your presence is strong the girl will come back to you after she is tired of dancing if not she will not come back.When she comes back the guy who danced with her will come as well with her to take her back to the dance floor so it is in your hand to handle the situation.

In Poland I act as Balkan King due to minimal resistance(in Scandinavia I get lot of pushing etc).The good thing in Poland is that you do not have in clubs the usual freaks to try to block you(Goths,girls with heavy piercings,lesbians,gay guys etc).Without them(who are present in Berlin for example) the resistance is rather smooth.There is also not the Serbian attitude with faithfulness to tribe and motherland from the side of the girls.Many girls actually want to emigrate.There is no high wealth display like in the case of high end Ukrainian clubs where you may feel stupid when you see the Lamborghinis parked outside the club.There is no Balkan difficulty with tables everywhere and meatheads seriously restraining movement and creating threatening environment.
So I do not really see any problem in Poland.Only maybe that you cannot have there the ''kick,punch and spit'' attitude(cowboy style) which is possible in FSU.

[Rurik]

Cafe Manana is a good place to go for older chicks, at least during the summer when I was there. If you're under 25, I wouldn't bother. Focus on day game, or the clubs around helio like eter and insomnia.

[storm]

(08-29-2012 12:27 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

Cafe Manana is a good place to go for older chicks, at least during the summer when I was there. If you're under 25, I wouldn't bother. Focus on day game, or the clubs around helio like eter and insomnia.

My experience agrees on Manana. I have had success at Mundo.

[Smitty]

Rurik, how long will you be there? I'll be there at the end of September and will stay for a few months.

[dontuan]

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

Early on, I was posted up by the bar, and macking on everything that came to get a drink. the problem was that girls were taking their drinks immediately and moving to another area, unlike what roosh was saying in his latest video that you should wait for the girl to get the drink, that would have not been good strategy here.

If the girls were all taking their leave after getting their drink, you're either doing your talk is not getting much traction or they aren't interested. When I chat up girls at the bar and they seem to give me good vibes, they'll invite me to come sit with them and their friends. Tighten up your game or keep trying.

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

The interactions were short. Dance floor game seems to matter here quite a bit. My dance floor game is basically non-existent.

It's true that dancing matters a lot when you're meeting these girls at night at bar/club venues. You can try just chatting them up, but you'll get less results. The girls here are young and they're out to get drunk and dance and much of the seduction happens on the dance floor.

(08-25-2012 04:52 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

Honestly, I don't really know what to make of poland. It doesn't seem that great. You still need game, and you need to approach, and if you don't dance you're at a distinct disadvantage.

I've been reading bang poland, trying to make sense of things. Roosh says that he got one night stands during the summer in Wroclaw, but then goes on to say that going to poland in summer is not a good choice. At other points he talks about going for weeks without getting a girl, but then mentions getting lots of one night stands. what makes the difference in poland?

You are treating the book like a how-to manual. I found the book useful, but more as a insider's view with suggested best practices. Pick-up can be a boon in Poland, but not simply because you're a foreigner and show up. When you go to these places, I'm sure you still see foreign guys standing around, sipping their drink and waiting for something magical to happen. Hooking up is competitive and the women know they''re desirable.

The difference is if once you do get your game to a decent level, you'll do much better in Poland than in the U.S. or other wester countries. If you're a confident guy, you'll get some girls in the U.S. But in Poland, that same confidence will get you a ton more interest and the girls will be a lot more impressed.

My take from my experience there was that Polish girls are much friendlier, sweet, feminine and have a thing for foreigners. They are also sensual, flirtatious and can be easy if they're into you. Basically if I come on to them and they feel mutual attraction to me as a potential fuck-interest, they'll respond in kind. No silly games, no song-and-dance charade. They don't keep their thoughts or feelings close to the vest the way Americans girls do to keep you pursuing them.

But you'll have to do more than just show up. Do the approaches, play up your foreignness, be playful and flirt with them. What I really liked about the girls there was that you can be real and express your interest and feelings in a straightforward way and it's not only appreciated but also encouraged. In the U.S., girls might think you're desperate, needy, a pervert, etc.

One thing you might want to remember about Polish girls is that since they are less into status, money and are less likely to size you up in all those superficial ways, they put more of a premium on a man who can romance them, treat them well and show them a good time -- now! So you need to get out the head space of being tactical as you would with American girls and put yourself all out there.

[misterx]

Great Datasheet!

I was also thinking what cities best in FSU and finally booked down on Wroclaw. So now I am here ,if anybody *is* in Wroclaw now and up for winging, pm me, it will be a blast!

[Greek kamaki]

Ready to relocate in Germany in one week I started contacts with polish girls with amazing results.It is so easy it is almost unbelievable.Once you speak polish you can easily get 10 girlfriends in Poland for every month.A lot and I mean really a lot of polish women of every age are way open to sponsorship opportunities by generous men.
Once in Poland I will start spreading my usual Balkan poison a mix and a dangerous one.Let's see how Germany reacts.

[Merenguero]

(05-01-2013 02:22 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ready to relocate in Germany in one week I started contacts with polish girls with amazing results.It is so easy it is almost unbelievable.Once you speak polish you can easily get 10 girlfriends in Poland for every month.A lot and I mean really a lot of polish women of every age are way open to sponsorship opportunities by generous men.
Once in Poland I will start spreading my usual Balkan poison a mix and a dangerous one.Let's see how Germany reacts.

How far will you be living from the Polish border?

[Brosemite]

I'm not exactly sure how far the universities are from Poznan's main square areas, but I know that the ones in Wroclaw are pretty damn distanced from all the main touristy areas. I saw a ton of good looking young professional type chicks (def not students) snacking/drinking coffee in the cafes early June as there is plenty of good day game opportunities to work with. Point being is I don't think Wroclaw would be too hurt by a late June exodus of all the university students much like Poznan though things are exponentially better of course with school in session.

Wroclaw is a place I'd be much happier in while making friends, enjoying the lifestyle options, and getting notches.

Poznan on the other hand is a place where I could quietly see myself getting notches but not really make any friends, etc.

[Greek kamaki]

(05-01-2013 08:44 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:22 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ready to relocate in Germany in one week I started contacts with polish girls with amazing results.It is so easy it is almost unbelievable.Once you speak polish you can easily get 10 girlfriends in Poland for every month.A lot and I mean really a lot of polish women of every age are way open to sponsorship opportunities by generous men.
Once in Poland I will start spreading my usual Balkan poison a mix and a dangerous one.Let's see how Germany reacts.

How far will you be living from the Polish border?

About 200 Km.Anyway I will be able to hit Poland during the weekends.The thirst there for Balkan juice is above any limit.I am not sure if they do it for the cock or for the money I think it is for the cock.

[Greek kamaki]

It is very dirty situation.You cannot understand how dirty these girls are till you start speaking polish.Everything is possible in Poland they agree in every possible perversion.I think the term ''Polki kuria sie zagranicy'' is an euphemism.They are worse in Poland reality exceeds imagination.Anyway I will make my royal appearance and rip off the results.Only strain of time is an issue since evrything has to be done during the weekend and most possibly during only Saturday.I will hit a series of cities starting with the ones close to borders where I already have connections and moving gradually deep in the heart of Poland.

[EU Explorer]

(05-01-2013 09:34 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

I'm not exactly sure how far the universities are from Poznan's main square areas, but I know that the ones in Wroclaw are pretty damn distanced from all the main touristy areas. I saw a ton of good looking young professional type chicks (def not students) snacking/drinking coffee in the cafes early June as there is plenty of good day game opportunities to work with. Point being is I don't think Wroclaw would be too hurt by a late June exodus of all the university students much like Poznan though things are exponentially better of course with school in session.

Wroclaw is a place I'd be much happier in while making friends, enjoying the lifestyle options, and getting notches.

Poznan on the other hand is a place where I could quietly see myself getting notches but not really make any friends, etc.

Its those friendly Silesians ...and the Wroclaw universities are only a 5-10 minute walk from the Rynek max. I was in wroclaw in early July + Oct and yes the amount of hot chicks was much higher when term was on (Oct)

[Orson]

(05-02-2013 03:38 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is very dirty situation.You cannot understand how dirty these girls are till you start speaking polish.Everything is possible in Poland they agree in every possible perversion.I think the term ''Polki kuria sie zagranicy'' is an euphemism.They are worse in Poland reality exceeds imagination.Anyway I will make my royal appearance and rip off the results.Only strain of time is an issue since evrything has to be done during the weekend and most possibly during only Saturday.I will hit a series of cities starting with the ones close to borders where I already have connections and moving gradually deep in the heart of Poland.

So, like an Erwin Rommel, the Greek Kamaki invades Poland? The suggestively salacious details drip with epic potential!

[Greek kamaki]

I already have 4-5 girls in Poland ready to open their legs for me once I appear.I expect the reaction to be grotesque.Usually they do not tolerate individuals like us.Action brings reaction.For sure I would get my head smashed if I stayed in Poland for long.But this country has a crucial advantage over Russia.It is a country where you can enter and exit easily while in the latter exit is a problem(you enter easily but you have to overcome every possible obstacle to exit).

[Apocalyptica]

This is my second post, and my first real data sheet. Sorry for my not-perfect English but I’ll do my best.

I have been twice in Wroclaw. I have been living in the past for months in Warsaw, went to Krakow, have many polish friends, so I believe I am in the right position to write down this information.

Accommodation: I booked a flat right on the main square using Airbnb. Cheap as hell, and within walking distance of all the clubs. 2 clubs were actually right besides my flat, incredible.

Going out: Wroclaw has basically two areas full of clubs and bars: main square area and plac leopoldny (don’t know the exact way of writing it, it’s just outside of the big street surrounding the city). The main square isn’t as interesting as it seems on first sight. Only 4 places I would recommend:
-Casa de la musica: go there for a drink before hitting the clubs. -1 level has a nice bar. Nevertheless quite hard to hit on girls since it’s more a social circle venue. But still nice to check out the girls.
-Domowka: place to be on Saturday. Really good. Full of girls, and quite easy to hit on. Not the really upscale place however, so the 10/10 girls are harder to find, nevertheless still enough of quality.
-Bedd club: nice interior, a bit more on the posh side. Head there on Thursdays when there are a lot of students. Quite a small dancefloor.
-Cherry club: If you want to meet the hottest girls in Wroclaw, go here. Especially on Friday and Saturday. I have rarely seen such an amount of hot girls packed in one place. It is very upscale, so you’ll have to show your cash. Its also the place where the rich guys of town head to show off. I was there too late on the evening, but still there were a lot of people.

Plac leopoldny:
-Mundo: the place you should go when other clubs or bars are empty. Always people here. 2 dancefloors, enough girls as well, but not the top quality.
-The other places I would avoid and do not recommend them. Cheap people.
-Eter club: biggest club of them all, but only open in weekends. Slightly older crowd here.
-Teatr club: just as Cherry club one of the more upscale clubs, slightly older crowd as well here.

Girls: If you are a good looking guy, you can easily fuck once every two nights, or even every night. There are enough 5/10 and 6/10 girls around that are so easy, especially in the bars/clubs on plac leopoldny. Nevertheless, If you have higher standards, you’ll have to work hard, just as everywhere. The girls in Cherry club are top, but would require a lot of work.
Personally I fucked one girl I met through Couchsurfing, Could have fucked an older woman I met in Teatr club but I dropped her, and I could have fucked one girl I picked up in Domowka, but again, I dropped her cause I wanted to score a hotter girl (which didn’t happen in the end, but it’s better to respect your standards). Those girls weren’t bad, I would rate them a 7/10. Yet, in the presence of 8 and 9/10’s, it’s hard to settle with a 7

Comparing with Krakow: Wroclaw is much better. Less tourists (go to Wroclaw in april/may), less clubs but still enough of options. One disadvantage less to see in the surroundings. But if you head over just for girls, it shouldn’t be an argument.
Comparing with Warsaw: I feel that for more 9’s and 10’s you should head to Warsaw, but their mentality differs and are much harder to get into bed. In Wroclaw you can still find sometimes some hot models with a very friendly attitude.
I’m planning Poznan soon, let’s see how that one compares!

[michelin]

(05-03-2013 05:30 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I already have 4-5 girls in Poland ready to open their legs for me once I appear.I expect the reaction to be grotesque.Usually they do not tolerate individuals like us.Action brings reaction.For sure I would get my head smashed if I stayed in Poland for long.But this country has a crucial advantage over Russia.It is a country where you can enter and exit easily while in the latter exit is a problem(you enter easily but you have to overcome every possible obstacle to exit).

So you just draw on old numbers saved in your database? Or do you plan to run new game?
Daygame / nightgame?

[thegmanifesto]

I like this sheet.

(05-03-2013 06:08 AM)Apocalyptica Wrote:  

Accommodation: I booked a flat right on the main square using Airbnb. Cheap as hell, and within walking distance of all the clubs. 2 clubs were actually right besides my flat, incredible.

What street is this?

Quote:

plac leopoldny

Where the hell is this?

Nothing comes up when you type it in to Google.

Maybe some Swedish Bar in NYC or something.