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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:02 PM
If she's upper class expect little outrage.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:05 PM
They should have cuffed her when they had her on the ground. Instead, the allow her to get back up and charge them. The shooting is not justified at all. This is just pure incompetence.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:15 PM
It's a good shoot if you follow the rules of police shootings. But it was such bad police-work from the first guy: all that pinning to the ground, only to let her get up and charge him with a knife.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:24 PM
Based on this video, she gets no sympathy from me. You reap what you sow.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:25 PM
I'm wondering why he doesn't cuff or subdue her while she's on the ground? Looks like he puts her hands behind her back, but then just gets up and pulls his gun.
The other two cops are both standing with their hands by their side until the moment she lunges. And based on the second Live Leak video, it looks like 3:37 she moves forward, 3:38 the second and third officer have their right hands up, 3:39 the retreating officer fires. By 3:40 she's on her way down.
Where does the part where she was tased and didn't go down come into play? Within a two second window, she was shot 4 times and tased once.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-29-2015, 10:35 PM
This is getting hardly any media coverage!! Hmm wonder why it seems like only blacks are repeatedly put on the news when they get taken out by cops
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 01:14 AM
Impossible to tell from the video, but I'd guess they let her up because they didn't know she had a knife, and she was probably screaming and crying in pain acting like a 17 year old girl, so they felt bad and let her up.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 01:36 AM
People backing the cops on this one...what are you guys smoking man. How deep into the system's butthole are you guys?
I'm not a liberal. Libertarian-ism has got to be a red pill tenet. Cops come out and swing their dick too much.
If you have ever defended a man accused of rape, you have to side against a cop shooting. If most of these cop shootings are justified, the a woman's word is all it should take to jail a man because most men are capable of sexual assault.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 03:28 AM
^ Exactly. I'm not "popping up" in anything. I'm commenting and voicing my beliefs. I'm not persecuting cops. I just happen to care about the loss of life, especially without due process.
This is a lot different even than the man running away video in the previous thread. First there is a knife, not a gun. Second the situation had been stabilized. If these guys are trained to shoot to kill an aggressive party, and they follow those rules so well, why not follow the rules to keep the situation under control when they had her on the ground? That would have saved a life. You are using gentlemanly behavior as an excuse?
If one is going to analyze the lunge itself, the girl misses and is off balance. The cop shoots her after that. She could still have been taken down by 3 cops without being killed. The cop's life was not at risk after the girls lunge. I would say shoot her in the leg there and everything is fine but I know there are rules in some places against that. If there are not in Texas, then this is even more inexcusable.
"If she is mentally ill she should have been in an institution".
How cold hearted are you? If she is indeed crazy, then not being in an institution is not her fault, but her parents'. But it is she that had to pay with her life. If she is mental, that is not her fault. If she is mental, then teaching her to be polite to cops probably would not have helped either.
In the end, I understand that the girl's actions are completely incorrect. I'm not saying they are not punishable. I am saying however that killing someone like that should not be accepted. If you don't value life then what is this society for anyways?
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 03:57 AM
This is a clear cut case of shit police work. If you can't subdue a 17 year old girl, knife weilding or not, you have absolutely no business being a cop.
There is a risk in being a police officer that each one takes on when they are sworn in. You run a risk of getting cut by some crazy bitch and that doesn't give you the right to shoot them. It's difficult to kill or seriously wound a person with a knife (when they see it coming, as this cop did) and police officers receive extensive training on how to defend against such attacks. Taser, club to the head or disarming a lunging girl with your hands are options... Firearms are not.
This is one of the few cases lately where I side with the victim. This cop should face manslaughter charges.
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01-30-2015, 04:21 AM
Overall the only clear mistake I see is him releasing her from physical restraint, but it does appear likely that she kicked him in the balls several instances. I rewound the video a few times to look at his gait and her leg positioning again. It's hard to tell, but a definite possibility that he was exhausted from fighting a mentally unstable suspect and the possible kicks to the groin.
For those that are unaware; doped up and mentally aggrieved people are the hardest fighters law enforcement or medical personnel encounter. They don't hold back their strength and stamina reserve and seem to fight above their ability.
At the 10:30 mark is when I assume he tased her judging on the body flinch when he's pointing something at her. The lunge was continuous, so I don't see how someone stated that she left herself vulnerable to an opportunistic takedown. Knives are dangerous and very risky to pursue lesser cautionary measures on.
The body language isn't admissible to guilt, it's indicative of a hard to deal with situation of watching a minor die in your presence under any circumstances.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 05:34 AM
Totally justified shooting. She was a serious threat at the time of the shooting. This is why cops have guns.
Cop should totally lose his job for failing to control the subject. That's shoddy police work that could have killed him or someone else. Unless he was still in the training phase of his career (in which case his training officer should bear the responsibility), you don't have any business being a peace officer if you let a situation escalate like this.
Non-police officers have lost their jobs for less (like unproven rape accusations).
Of course, he won't lose his job. Not in Texas. Probably not anywhere in the USA.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 07:12 AM
If an armed police officer tells you to do something, you fucking well do it. If you run at an armed police officer with an offensive weapon, you will be shot and most likely killed. What is it that people don't understand about this? Its their duty to defend themselves, especially against some maniac bitch with a meat cleaver. Granted, he could have shot her knees out and immobilized her, but its a split second decision in a crisis situation. I have never been in the forces and I still understand this.
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Teen Girl Shot Dead At Texas Police Station Had Knife, Cops Say
01-30-2015, 07:42 AM
don't bring a knife to a gun fight, nuff said.
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