[Mufasa]

StopBullying.gov more like EndShittyParenting.org

[TheWastelander]

My dad and my older brother told me to punch a few bullies' lights out, so I did. Still, I feel like that wasn't adequate enough advice on how to deal with them. Not only do you need to fight them, you need to have a solid group who's got your back and be part of a team. I never played many sports growing up and looking back, I regret it. My social life suffered because of it. I wasn't bullied but adopting the same view on socializing with others as my inadvertently antisocial father and explicitly antisocial brother did didn't do me any favors.

Anyway, if I have a son one day I'll drop some rare Mark Fuhrman wisdom on him:

"You learn that when somebody pushes, if you can't beat 'em face on, you sneak up behind 'em and just grab 'em by the hair and keep punchin' em' until they go down. I learned that a long time ago, and when I went into the service it's the same thing. I only go so far, and they teach you, you don't have to go. No, you don't have to let anybody push you. Somebody touches you, you just knock 'em down. I mean, that's all there is to it."

Boys need to be taught that shit. Bullies can't be allowed to have any sense of security. If a big bully is picking on a smaller kid and that smaller kid doesn't think he can beat him head on, he needs to ambush that motherfucker and hurt him bad.

[monster]

(12-07-2014 04:49 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

This is unfortunate, but I am pro bullying.

I am anti little sissies killing themselves because they want to play with pom poms

Bullying isn't the problem here. I bet his dad is your typical spineless beta and didn't teach him how to deal with hardship.

But that's the issue...if the boy doesn't have a male role model and bullying exists, what's he to do?

At 12 years old he's too young to develop the coping mechanisms to deal with bullying on his own. He doesn't have a male role model to teach him. The school doesn't teach him. What's the answer?

[Deuce Anna Half]

(12-07-2014 05:12 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 02:20 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 02:14 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote:

Ronin Shimizu

What kind of parent names a kid like that?

I beg to differ. Ronin is a rogue/masterless samurai in Japanese and Shimizu is a Japanese last name.

agreed. I would have killed for a badass name like that.

Goes to show the parents fucked up a long time ago. Naming your kid "Ronin" is like naming him "Tank" or "Thor", he NEEDS to be a badass. I'd have him doing martial arts by the time he could walk.

[DJ-Matt]

What pisses me off is that in the 90s, my parents couldn't get the school to do shit to stop kids bullying and beating me up (and I wasn't even a cheerleader just a tech geek in an age where tech was shitty and primitive), so hence I have permenent scars from it. Thank God I got put into a private school before the damage went to suicide.

[MdWanderer]

(12-07-2014 04:49 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

This is unfortunate, but I am pro bullying.

I am anti little sissies killing themselves because they want to play with pom poms

Bullying isn't the problem here. I bet his dad is your typical spineless beta and didn't teach him how to deal with hardship.

I'm with you, I was bullied relentlessly as a kid for being fat. I took care of it by swinging my fists. Yes I lost a few fights here and there but I slowly gained respect of the group. Bullies feed off of an easy fight.

[bojangles]

I'm pro bullying too, it moulded me as a man.

[TravelerKai]

I do not remember it, but my mom says when I was very little I once tried to put on her high heeled shoes. She beat the crap out of me and I never did it again. I'm glad she did that.

I don't know if we should actively encourage bullying, because that is not necessarily a good thing when guys grow up and need to work a job. Police officers are bad enough, we probably do not need to add to that. Bullies turned me into a martial arts maniac at a very young age because I was too nerdy and spoke correct English. While it did give me alot of discipline, I think it was attainable without the harsh environment I came out of. I grew up with more paranoia than I needed to have and developed a nasty habit of being a guy that hit back first instead of using social skills to deescalate stuff instead.

In many ways I am lucky to be alive. The first time I had to learn how to deescalate a mess, was the first time a bully dope dealer pulled a pistol out on me. I would have disarmed him and beaten him within an inch of his life, but I remembered he had a gang that would shoot me later in the week. The 90's were rough depending upon where you are from. There is a reason some of this anti-bully stuff came about. Unfortunately, the SJWs and victim crowd own that platform.

I know everyone wants guys to be tough instead of pussyfied, but we should be careful what we ask for. One extreme is usually never better than the other.

[Rutting Elephant]

If that kid could have held on through high school as the only male cheerleader, he could have written a college application essay that would definitely set him apart from the pack.
I wouldn't be surprised if this quirk-advantage had crossed his parents' minds, in an era of $40K preschools.

[Hardy Daytona]

In a rotten situation like this, there's a lot of unknown variables.

For example, we don't know if the kid voluntarily chose to join the cheerleading squad or if it was something he was coerced into doing.
We don't know if he was consciously aware of the fact that his being surrounded by girls would improve his prospects when they dropped and he became sexually active.
We don't know the extent of the parenting techniques used on him, whether they were psychologically pervasive or direct orders.

Using evidenced extrapolation its reasonable to assume that had he would be grown up emasculated and guilt-ridden for being a 'cis-gendered heterosexual male.'
Just what the world needs more of.

But any way you slice it, it's just a damn shame.

[MdWanderer]

(12-08-2014 10:08 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I do not remember it, but my mom says when I was very little I once tried to put on her high heeled shoes. She beat the crap out of me and I never did it again. I'm glad she did that.

I don't know if we should actively encourage bullying, because that is not necessarily a good thing when guys grow up and need to work a job. Police officers are bad enough, we probably do not need to add to that. Bullies turned me into a martial arts maniac at a very young age because I was too nerdy and spoke correct English. While it did give me alot of discipline, I think it was attainable without the harsh environment I came out of. I grew up with more paranoia than I needed to have and developed a nasty habit of being a guy that hit back first instead of using social skills to deescalate stuff instead.

In many ways I am lucky to be alive. The first time I had to learn how to deescalate a mess, was the first time a bully dope dealer pulled a pistol out on me. I would have disarmed him and beaten him within an inch of his life, but I remembered he had a gang that would shoot me later in the week. The 90's were rough depending upon where you are from. There is a reason some of this anti-bully stuff came about. Unfortunately, the SJWs and victim crowd own that platform.

http://dc.about.com/od/specialevents/ig/...een-Race-/

Now we have garbage like drag high heel races ^^^

You're right though, the 1990s were rough (I grew up in Baltimore and its Mayberry now compared to what it was then), but I miss that decade dearly compared to the 2010s. I got into countless of fights over being bullied back in middle school, and got a slap on the wrist each time. Now I'm surprised that they won't expel the kids for good over a fight these days. Even with a Democrat in office for the majority of that time, you didn't have as much of the SJW bullcrap back then that you did now. You had a man in the White House who loved chasing ladies more than "protecting" them. Gays, transsexuals, and men fulfilling taking on female roles are now seen as "heroes" while straight men are "rapists".

Rape in those days was a grave crime. Now it can be a tap on the shoulder.

[puckerman]

(12-07-2014 01:41 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I feel bad for the fellow, but why is 12 year old boy a cheerleader? Some parents set their kids up for failure.

During my junior year in high school. we actually had some male cheerleaders. I thought of them as "gay" and worse. This was 1988.

Looking back now, you better fucking believe I wish I would have done it. I have always had a major cheerleader fetish.

You're doing something athletic. You show your strength. You lift girls up over your head. You have to touch these girls a lot, and lots of touch leads to sex. What could be more manly than that?

I would certainly allow my son to be a male cheerleader on the grounds that he is getting everything he wants physically from them. I might even tell him: "You can be a cheerleader, Son, as long as you getting at least one blow a week."

[Fortis]

(12-08-2014 01:38 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:41 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I feel bad for the fellow, but why is 12 year old boy a cheerleader? Some parents set their kids up for failure.

During my junior year in high school. we actually had some male cheerleaders. I thought of them as "gay" and worse. This was 1988.

Looking back now, you better fucking believe I wish I would have done it. I have always had a major cheerleader fetish.

You're doing something athletic. You show your strength. You lift girls up over your head. You have to touch these girls a lot, and lots of touch leads to sex. What could be more manly than that?

I would certainly allow my son to be a male cheerleader on the grounds that he is getting everything he wants physically from them. I might even tell him: "You can be a cheerleader, Son, as long as you getting at least one blow a week."

Man, I'm not so sure. Everyone is talking about this as though 12 year old boys think that deeply and would say, "oh man, look at how strong that cheerleader boy is!"


The second a 12 year old sees another boy with pom poms it's a rap as far as that kid's reputation goes. Yes, for the love of god, college age male cheerleaders get a lot of pussy. I am not denying that, but a 12 year old boy who is a cheerleader is going to get viewed as suspect, unless he's way bigger and stronger than his peers, but if that were the case, he would probably be coerced into basketball, football, wrestling, or another socially accepted masculine sport. The only somewhat girly sport a 12 year old could participate in and keep a solid reputation is probably gymnastics, just because those dudes have strong upper bodies and could probably rock most kids in a fight.

It is dangerous to allow a 12 year old to become a cheerleader, because his peers will not like it. Even in this day and age when boys are more pussified than ever, there are still boys who will go to town on a perceptibly "weak" boy.

Objectively, I have nothing against male cheerleaders, but I wouldn't tell a guy, "Oh yeah, everyone will totally be fine with your 12 year old son doing cheer." That would be a huge lie and that kid will most likely suffer social ostracism and a few other nasty things.

I think his parents should have seen this coming.