[GyopoPlayboy]

Gents,

I got with a girl recently who I'd rate as around average, somewhere between a 5 and 6. She doesn't always do it for me physically but i was just in that kinda mood so

anyways, i find out later that she runs her own business and is quite successful. she has business know-how and connections that could be very helpful to me when I go out on my own. the trouble is, because we've already been intimate, i can't take advantage of this unless i give her more than just a FWB status (ie. she wants an actual relationship).

anyway i look at it, i think i'm going to have to make some kind of commitment in order to get any benefits out of this and probably just bang what i can on the side. unless there are other ways i could play this out?

she's just barely passing the boner test with me and that's why i'm even considering this at all. what would you guys do?

other benefits: she's got apartments in 3 countries that i could use whenever i want. she's already offered to cover my travel and food expenses if i travel with her, either for business OR leisure.

it's an interesting dilemma to be in. it kind of makes me understand what it must be like for girls who have rich guys trying to "take care" of them.

[Helmutnl]

You mean this is some kind of a ''platonic relationship''?
Play it smooth with grace and suavity.
But both yourself and heart shouldn't take it seriously or fall for it..

[ElJefe]

If you can keep fucking her good I say go for it. I prostituted myself once, but it was only for a week. Couldn't stand it but maybe you can

[germanico]

Sex, you can get without having to have a relationship.

If you are going to get into a relationship, of course you should do it for additional benefits other than sex.

[peterthephoenix]

You mean you're her sugar baby?

[M.D.Douche]

I've got a handful of friends like this; keep the sexual tension at a reasonably sustainable level and never ever ever ever ever ever ever have sex with her.

Edit: realize now you already did. Don't do it again

[Sonoma]

I've reaped the rewards from girls like this before


If you can stomach the arrangement then do it, but I've found with all of them I get really really unattracted to them and I don't like the sexual pressure

[Dr. Howard]

Ask Kevin Federline how to run this game.

[GyopoPlayboy]

(12-04-2014 06:40 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

You mean this is some kind of a ''platonic relationship''?
Play it smooth with grace and suavity.
But both yourself and heart shouldn't take it seriously or fall for it..

I personally wouldn't mind keeping it platonic. But i turned on her inner sex demon so now she wants to bang everytime we meet. And it's getting harder each time to get my little buddy downstairs excited.

(12-04-2014 06:43 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

If you can keep fucking her good I say go for it. I prostituted myself once, but it was only for a week. Couldn't stand it but maybe you can

Prostitution. That's exactly what this is.

I don't think I'm made out for it either, but I'll give it a shot. This could work if I continue seeing girls on the side who I'm physically attracted to.

(12-04-2014 06:43 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Sex, you can get without having to have a relationship.

If you are going to get into a relationship, of course you should do it for additional benefits other than sex.

it's easier said than done bro.

i mean, pick the most average looking girl you personally know and ask yourself if you'd submit to a BF/GF relationship with her because she's, say, the daughter of the New England Patriots' owner.

would you still do it?

(12-04-2014 06:44 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  

You mean you're her sugar baby?

lol, yea i guess you right. that's what it is. you ever try it b4?

anybody actually do this and wanna comment on it? help a brutha out maybe lol

(12-04-2014 07:14 PM)Sonoma Wrote:  

I've reaped the rewards from girls like this before


If you can stomach the arrangement then do it, but I've found with all of them I get really really unattracted to them and I don't like the sexual pressure

You and El Jefe sound like you know what's going on.

Her connections are going to seriously boost me to the next level. I'll try to see how long I last, but I know myself well enough to know that I can't fake it forever. I just wanna know if you guys found an arrangement that worked for you, like maybe you agree to date the girl but continue to see other girls on the side and how that worked out for you?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Leaving morals aside - men do fuck their way up since time immemorial. Great fortunes have been created by now world-famous men who decided to marry an ugly fat, but very wealthy broad.

That is still the number one wealth accumulation game for women and men should not be ashamed for doing the same. Besides - you can always leave her later on. You fucked her before, so there is at least some physical attraction.

Men have been marrying women for their wealth for ages - the entire global elite is scattered with plenty of those unions. Many ambitious young men got their head-start like that. And even the fathers of those brides were not mad about it, since a money-focused husband who increases the family fortune is sometimes better than a slacker who actually loves his daughter.

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I just wanna know if you guys found an arrangement that worked for you, like maybe you agree to date the girl but continue to see other girls on the side and how that worked out for you?

Continuing to see other girls openly with her won't fly. Don't mention it with her.

I never had such an arrangement myself, though I fucked my boss when younger, but that was for fun, since she was 34 and in great shape - fucking in her office was fun too.

But would I date or even marry a girl who is a relatively good looking multi-billionaire? Depends on her and her family. This is one case in which I would actually consider marriage. But there are many co-factors and you would have to decide on a case by case basis.

Yours is not so bad - you get mostly connections out of it and a little boost. Keep it amicable between you and roll the dices as long as they last.

[Dr. Howard]

(12-04-2014 10:34 PM)GyopoPlayboy Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 06:40 PM)Helmutnl Wrote:  

You mean this is some kind of a ''platonic relationship''?
Play it smooth with grace and suavity.
But both yourself and heart shouldn't take it seriously or fall for it..

I personally wouldn't mind keeping it platonic. But i turned on her inner sex demon so now she wants to bang everytime we meet. And it's getting harder each time to get my little buddy downstairs excited.

(12-04-2014 06:43 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

If you can keep fucking her good I say go for it. I prostituted myself once, but it was only for a week. Couldn't stand it but maybe you can

Prostitution. That's exactly what this is.

I don't think I'm made out for it either, but I'll give it a shot. This could work if I continue seeing girls on the side who I'm physically attracted to.

(12-04-2014 06:43 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Sex, you can get without having to have a relationship.

If you are going to get into a relationship, of course you should do it for additional benefits other than sex.

it's easier said than done bro.

i mean, pick the most average looking girl you personally know and ask yourself if you'd submit to a BF/GF relationship with her because she's, say, the daughter of the New England Patriots' owner.

would you still do it?

(12-04-2014 06:44 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  

You mean you're her sugar baby?

lol, yea i guess you right. that's what it is. you ever try it b4?

anybody actually do this and wanna comment on it? help a brutha out maybe lol

(12-04-2014 07:14 PM)Sonoma Wrote:  

I've reaped the rewards from girls like this before


If you can stomach the arrangement then do it, but I've found with all of them I get really really unattracted to them and I don't like the sexual pressure

You and El Jefe sound like you know what's going on.

Her connections are going to seriously boost me to the next level. I'll try to see how long I last, but I know myself well enough to know that I can't fake it forever. I just wanna know if you guys found an arrangement that worked for you, like maybe you agree to date the girl but continue to see other girls on the side and how that worked out for you?

Let me throw an idea out there, I have never battle tested this so its pure theory.

If she is average, and rich and you've unleashed her inner sex demon can you leverage threesomes? From there leverage the threesomes into some sort of 'open relationship'?

If she is horny and depraved it should be pretty easy, and the wealth may compensate for the looks for you to draw in better looking women for the threesome..ie they may overlook average annie if they get to hang out on a yacht all day.

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

George Washington did it. When he shacked up with Martha, she had something like 5 plantations in Virginia on the best land, plus a shit ton of cash in the bank.
I see no problem with it. Sure, it isn't ideal, but plenty of men whore themselves out to other men by spending 12-16 hours a day in some office, and never see any real benefit, and remain wage slaves for their entire lives.
Just make sure you get benefits that can't be taken away when you break up with her, and get enough ass on the side that you stay sane in the meantime.

[Carlos100]

Frame. It's your reality, not hers. You act like what you want is natural and right.

[GyopoPlayboy]

(12-05-2014 05:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Leaving morals aside - men do fuck their way up since time immemorial. Great fortunes have been created by now world-famous men who decided to marry an ugly fat, but very wealthy broad.

That is still the number one wealth accumulation game for women and men should not be ashamed for doing the same. Besides - you can always leave her later on. You fucked her before, so there is at least some physical attraction.

Men have been marrying women for their wealth for ages - the entire global elite is scattered with plenty of those unions. Many ambitious young men got their head-start like that. And even the fathers of those brides were not mad about it, since a money-focused husband who increases the family fortune is sometimes better than a slacker who actually loves his daughter.

Continuing to see other girls openly with her won't fly. Don't mention it with her.

I never had such an arrangement myself, though I fucked my boss when younger, but that was for fun, since she was 34 and in great shape - fucking in her office was fun too.

But would I date or even marry a girl who is a relatively good looking multi-billionaire? Depends on her and her family. This is one case in which I would actually consider marriage. But there are many co-factors and you would have to decide on a case by case basis.

Yours is not so bad - you get mostly connections out of it and a little boost. Keep it amicable between you and roll the dices as long as they last.

yea that's an interesting point there mate, and it's probably quite true. the only difference in this case is her wealth is actually self-made. her connections came from her ~10 years in the biz. she got a job after HS and worked her way up, then went off on her own. so her family/father is a nonissue here.

and i'm shuddering at the prospect of marrying her. it's nowhere near that stage yet. though with bitches today, you never know...

i have a feeling she'd drop my ass and never talk to me again if she catches me with other women. even now she's suspicious, in that, "if he fucks me this good, he's probably fucking tons of women out there too" kinda way.

so what i'll have to do is stay monogamous initially, then go one of 2 ways: either i slowly turn her out into my own slut who is willing to do some truly depraved shit with me or i see girls on the side without her knowledge. she won't be open to it now, but if i can get her to look more like what i'm sexually into (maybe have her get fake tits, change her hairstyle, her way of dressing, etc...) it would definitely help keep the relationship monogamous.

(12-05-2014 05:40 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

Let me throw an idea out there, I have never battle tested this so its pure theory.

If she is average, and rich and you've unleashed her inner sex demon can you leverage threesomes? From there leverage the threesomes into some sort of 'open relationship'?

If she is horny and depraved it should be pretty easy, and the wealth may compensate for the looks for you to draw in better looking women for the threesome..ie they may overlook average annie if they get to hang out on a yacht all day.

She won't be initially, but your suggestion actually gives me some ideas. She's horny, but not depraved (not yet anyway). And she's pretty vanilla in bed. so 3somes are off the tables for now, but I'm going to start turning her out slowly by pushing her boundaries just a little bit each time.

maybe get her into reverse cowgirl with a mirror she can look into next time, get her comfortable with her exhibitionist side. then a sextape maybe. then, fucking in public spaces. slowly get her into the idea for 3somes and sharing ourselves with strangers.

but to get the better looking women into 3somes, she's going to need to be at a high enough level of attractiveness first. pretty girls like other pretty girls. i'm gonna have to give her some kind of makeover.

(12-05-2014 07:03 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

George Washington did it. When he shacked up with Martha, she had something like 5 plantations in Virginia on the best land, plus a shit ton of cash in the bank.
I see no problem with it. Sure, it isn't ideal, but plenty of men whore themselves out to other men by spending 12-16 hours a day in some office, and never see any real benefit, and remain wage slaves for their entire lives.
Just make sure you get benefits that can't be taken away when you break up with her, and get enough ass on the side that you stay sane in the meantime.

I see no problem with it either. I'm not trying to rationalize what I'm going to do.

Just wondering if some of you guys here have found a way to juggle this with the need for variety and hotness.

(12-05-2014 11:07 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

Frame. It's your reality, not hers. You act like what you want is natural and right.

as with any woman/situation, it's about frame, i agree.

i think this situation is similar to guys who are trying to get their wives to lose some weight.

the ones who do it successfully probably don't guilt her into it. i reckon they assure her of her inner beauty or some shit like that, how they will always love them no matter what, and use good frame control to get her to want to do it to please her man.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-05-2014 01:59 PM)GyopoPlayboy Wrote:  

yea that's an interesting point there mate, and it's probably quite true. the only difference in this case is her wealth is actually self-made. her connections came from her ~10 years in the biz. she got a job after HS and worked her way up, then went off on her own. so her family/father is a nonissue here.

and i'm shuddering at the prospect of marrying her. it's nowhere near that stage yet. though with bitches today, you never know...

Forget about planning anything with her in that case. If you need the career boost, then take it - maybe try to a different department later on, where she cannot sabotage you when you drop her.

You can achieve that kind of success yourself. Chaining yourself to a career woman you are not attracted to makes no sense. If she had serious money, then that would be a point for debate, but not for any chick making 6 figures and feeling mighty. You can do the same working a multitude of jobs - even in our current shitty economic climate.

[WestIndianArchie]

It's difficult to do if you have a heart.

You could easily tell her, we're just FWB's, and she'll nod her head, but in reality think that your her boyfriend.

Finding a mentor that will give you that much access will be far more difficult.

Fuck bitches, get money.

WIA

[Failing]

IMO, bang her, access the nonsexual benefits in the same way you access the sexual ones. Have affairs if you feel like you need it. The affairs will make you less physically and emotionally available, which should only make her value her time with you more. When you have gotten what you need, bounce.

You actually sleeping around won't hurt her, her believing that you are will, so be disciplined about that. As far as using her for her resources, well, she built them and is probably proud that she can attract a man of your quality with the 'whole package', when her plain appearance would have been an obstacle. Whether this validates feminism is another issue entirely.

[germanico]

(12-04-2014 10:34 PM)GyopoPlayboy Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 06:43 PM)germanico Wrote:  

Sex, you can get without having to have a relationship.

If you are going to get into a relationship, of course you should do it for additional benefits other than sex.

it's easier said than done bro.

i mean, pick the most average looking girl you personally know and ask yourself if you'd submit to a BF/GF relationship with her because she's, say, the daughter of the New England Patriots' owner.

would you still do it?

Im guessing the "you can have sex without a relationship" part just flew over your head.

[xxMarco]

Had this same exact thing happen to me. I was hooking up with this girl who was about average/a little below average. She had several businesses.

After a while I just couldn't do it anymore. I was banging her regularly once a week and got some cool perks. We took a trip down to another city and she paid for all of it. She pushed for a relationship but I decided not to commit. She knew and broke off our little hangouts.

I couldn't keep doing it. My dick just wasn't really into it after a couple months. I felt like I was selling myself short. I had to think about another girl so I could cum. I'm better than that. I've fucked hot girls before I don't need to be dealing with this.

Maybe not my best decision but I let her go

[MMM]

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