[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(11-28-2014 08:09 PM)Old Fritz Wrote:  

Huh? You're saying Iran wouldn't confront the US with military action if they were attacked? Unless, you mean China?

Yeah, meant to say China in that post.

(11-28-2014 10:36 PM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  

Calling Hezbollah a terrorist group is fallacious. Would you consider Charles De Gaulle's Free French Forces a terrorist group? Probably not. Hezbollah is a legitimate resistance organization that has defended its land against an Israeli occupying force and has consistently stood up to the bloodthirsty Israeli army. Unsurprisingly the only countries that listed Hezbollah as a terrorist group are Israel's close allies (puppets).

Any claim that Hezbollah has to being a "legitimate resistance organization" is over at this point. Hezbollah now is nothing but a tool of Iran to maintain its control over Lebanon. The ayatollahs say "jump" and Nasrallah says "how high." If Hezbollah is nothing but a resistance movement against "Israeli aggression" why are they now being used as Iran's shock army against the anti-Assad forces in Syria?

Simple: because Hezbollah's true allegiance is not to the Lebanese state, but to the Shia-run "axis of resistance" and the concept of the velayat-e-faqih which exists as the ideological underpinning of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

[Sawyer]

(11-28-2014 11:39 PM)Feisbook Control Wrote:  

(11-28-2014 09:59 PM)Sawyer Wrote:  

I am pro-Iran. I think it may be the last "Christian" country on the planet which is why they are targeted.

What I mean by that is a nation of people with an historic attachment to the land whose government takes a vested interest in its citizens' spiritual well being and innocence. This creates a people that are incredibly open, kind and innocent, like people one might hope to find in a country that was actually Christian.

Contrast this with America, which is filled with Christians but has a government that takes great pleasure in the displacement and uprooting of its citizens and considers it the greatest disservice to them if they retain a shred of innocence past the second grade. There are plenty of kind, decent and innocent people in America but I wouldn't call Americans a kind, decent and innocent people. And when they are it certainly has nothing to do with their spiritual innocence being protected by the government.

Targeting Iran is as wrong as it gets.

[Sp5]

This month is going to be a turning point. You have the P5+1 group (USA, UK, China, France, Russia, Germany) trying to complete an agreement.

You have Netanyahu going to Congress and up for reelection in three days, on March 17.

You have 47 US senators trying to thwart an agreement.

And the propaganda is ramping up, with a piece like this in the Washington Post:

WaPo op-ed: War with Iran is probably our best option

Quote:

Does this mean that our only option is war? Yes, although an air campaign targeting Iran’s nuclear infrastructure would entail less need for boots on the ground than the war Obama is waging against the Islamic State, which poses far smaller a threat than Iran does.

Utterly deranged, but able to get a voice in the capital city's major newspaper.

A good takedown:

Three maps for Professor Murchavik

Quote:

So what does this all have to do with Dr. Muravchik's thesis that going to war with Iran is our best option? If you compare the three maps you notice some important features. First, a significant number of Iran's nuclear sites, military sites, and population centers are all located in proximity to each other. This is not, in itself, surprising. The same natural and man made infrastructure necessary for a municipality is also necessary for military sites, and especially so for research and development sites. The ability to get personnel and supplies where they need to be in a timely manner means taking advantage of already existing infrastructure.

However, access to infrastructure for logistics' purposes is not the only reason for some of this co-location. For instance, the nuclear facility near Qom is not an accident. It was placed there in order to make it difficult for a US commander to approve a strike on it.

I still think this war is going to happen.

[Sp5]

Syria is about Iran. You can watch the unified media narrative now and see a preview. War with Iran is coming, and it will be a nasty surprise to America.

[TravelerKai]

(04-07-2017 01:31 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Syria is about Iran. You can watch the unified media narrative now and see a preview. War with Iran is coming, and it will be a nasty surprise to America.

At this rate it certainly seems like it is headed in that direction.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

TravelerKai, you mean "This administration is not going in the direction I was hoping for"?

[TravelerKai]

(04-07-2017 10:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

TravelerKai, you mean "This administration is not going in the direction I was hoping for"?

I know some of you think I am little dark, but I would never- I mean, he would not mind a fight of any kind at all.

[Sp5]

Big step to a war today. This is about as far from MAGA as you can get.

[url=https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1115263092219363330][/url]

[godfather dust]

Did Iran do their first terror attack in the West recently? Didn't hear about that...

[911]

Not only did Iran not resort to terrorism, but those military elements of theirs played a major role in crushing ISIS, AQ and other jihadi terrorists sponsored by the deep state in Syria.

Pompeo is an endtimer "christian" zionist, he wants that goy war for Israel. That's one more big check mark in the MIGA column


Adam green on Pompeo's goy wars:

[Bananaman711]

War with Iran is inevitable as they can't engineer uprising from inside
Trump is Jewish lapdog who will do what Israel tells him to do, Saudis will have to pick up the tab or else regime/country name change coming

We have powerful alliance,USA, Israel and SA against Iran and Russia but will Russia risk going to war to save regime?

[Foolsgo1d]

(04-08-2019 02:18 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

We have powerful alliance,USA, Israel and SA against Iran and Russia but will Russia risk going to war to save regime?

Better question is; Does Russia have serious interests in the current status quo within Iran?

Yes they do.

They need Iran as does Syria and Iraq. Never forget the people driving this want to be rid of those countries as a long term goal. Russia is just making it very difficult as seen in Syria.

[RexImperator]

If Trump wins a second term and Kushner et al are stilll there, I think there’s a very good chance he will do it.

Bolton and company have been itching to overthrow Iran’s government for years.

[Foolsgo1d]

(04-08-2019 04:37 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

If Trump wins a second term and Kushner et al are stilll there, I think there’s a very good chance he will do it.

Bolton and company have been itching to overthrow Iran’s government for years.

They need Venezuelas oil first.

[AManLikePutin]

(04-08-2019 03:43 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 02:18 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

We have powerful alliance,USA, Israel and SA against Iran and Russia but will Russia risk going to war to save regime?

Better question is; Does Russia have serious interests in the current status quo within Iran?

Yes they do.

They need Iran as does Syria and Iraq. Never forget the people driving this want to be rid of those countries as a long term goal. Russia is just making it very difficult as seen in Syria.

The Iran-Russia alliance is very very hallow.

Putin has met Netanyahu more times in the past 12 months than has met Iranian delegations over the past decade.

Not to mention Russia continuously refuses to intercept Israelis missiles targeting IRGC in Syria. The state newspapers in Iran lately have been very critical of Russia too.

Iranians in Iran as a whole dislike Russia for a long time; most of going back to the wars of about 150 years ago when Tsar beat Qajar dynasty in Iran and acquired lands of Caucus countries (Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia). Also because there was going to be an internal coup to bring down the newly-established regime a year or so after the revolution, but the hardcore communist Iranian party who wanted Iran to follow the soviet model (Toodeh) ratted our the generals to mullah which dwarfed the attack and led to mass executions. Many in Iran hold it against Russia (wrong as it may be, because it was Iranian leftists who fucked it up).

Russia really went knee deep in Syria because they had a military base there that was key to access the Mediterranean. No such thing with Iran...and Putin knows his last term should be focused on domestic prosperity and has said such in his state of union address a month ago.

I just don’t see Russia risking anything of value to save the mullahs. It’s a rotten regime where the media age of headmasters is 70+ After all. Overthrown by dissent or foreign intervention or not, I can’t see them surviving in their current shape for too much longer (decade or so)...in Syria Russia had a stable, young and reliable long-term leader (from Russian interest POV) lile Assad. No such thing in Iran.

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(04-08-2019 04:37 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

If Trump wins a second term and Kushner et al are stilll there, I think there’s a very good chance he will do it.

Bolton and company have been itching to overthrow Iran’s government for years.

Bolton seems like the war hawk Trump places beside himself to appear like he can strike or strike back anytime.

[TigerMandingo]

Iran has been the subject of AngloZionist bullying for like 40 years. It’s amazing how restrained they have been so far.

[NoMoreTO]

^^ it goes back further than that. 65 years.

In 1953 Iran tried to nationalize, or partially nationalize the oil. A company that is now BP was operating there. British and US Intelligence agencies sparked a coup to put more power in the hands of the Shah, and away from the elected parliament. This kept the oil flowing.

This was one of the underlying causes of the 1979 revolution, that the Shah was indeed a puppet installed by UK/USA and of course, the aliens.

[for.petes.sake]

I am not a big fan of war but there is a side of me that actually wants a war with Iran to happen. My family is from a nation that is in constant turmoil due to Iranian government influence. Basically there is constant strife between Iranian backed groups and the government (basically Iran is involved in every proxy war in the middle east). I do not know why the Iranian government is constantly trying to promote Shia Islam in every Muslim nation (even in Nations where they make up less than 10 percent of the population). They basically want every nation with any Shia groups to only have Shia groups in power. I love the Iranian people but their government is so incompetent and has destroyed what Iran could have been. My grandfather told me stories how beautiful and modern Iran was before the revolution. Although the Shah was a puppet he did keep the trains on time and women were not stoned to death. After the revolution all of Iran's best talent have left for the West. Constant food shortages are rampant and the government has trouble balancing its budget due to millions being flown to warlords in other nations to fight for its proxy wars. And due to its incompetence it is facing a water shortage too. Now it constantly interferes and promotes terrorism in Afghanistan due to Afghanistan being the start of half its rivers that flow in its nation. Due to its stupid government they fought a needless war with Iraq that cost billions of dollars and millions of lives (both Iran and Iraq ere dumb and dumber in this situation). Many will say that Iran is just playing politics but Iran has no clue on what real politics is (just only trying to promote Shia members in power). If Iran went towards a route of more cooperation and trade with its neighbors then it could have avoided so much of the brunt of sanctions. Now all its neighbors (from Armenia to even close FSU nations like Uzbekistan) try to avoid doing business with Iran and Iran has no real allies in the region except Syria. Heck the Uzbekistan government has more friendly business terms with Afghan businessmen than Iranian businessmen. I wish the revolution had resulted in a more smarter and progressive government taking over Iran, not these stupid towel heads.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Your nation can go to war with Iran then, 'cause it ain't our problem.

Let us know how it works out for you!

[captain_shane]

I hope Iran launches every rocket they have at Israel if we go to war with them. Go down swinging with everything they have. They should try and build nukes asap, fuck the "international" community.

[nek]

Every war rolls around, the war machine dominates, yet things for the average citizen, the fabric of western society writ large, gets worse. The vets aren't treated any better, and the people involved in sending the troops have no qualms about bad-mouthing the military war machine in order to get re-elected. All so we can have little boys performing in drag shows in front of pedophiles, young men being further marginalized legally, socially, and financially, and a populous that is more than willing to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator while eroding away the very principles that made this country a beacon for all of humanity. Enough of this shit.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-08-2019 11:11 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

I am not a big fan of war but there is a side of me that actually wants a war with Iran to happen. My family is from a nation that is in constant turmoil due to Iranian government influence. Basically there is constant strife between Iranian backed groups and the government (basically Iran is involved in every proxy war in the middle east). I do not know why the Iranian government is constantly trying to promote Shia Islam in every Muslim nation (even in Nations where they make up less than 10 percent of the population). They basically want every nation with any Shia groups to only have Shia groups in power. I love the Iranian people but their government is so incompetent and has destroyed what Iran could have been. My grandfather told me stories how beautiful and modern Iran was before the revolution. Although the Shah was a puppet he did keep the trains on time and women were not stoned to death. After the revolution all of Iran's best talent have left for the West. Constant food shortages are rampant and the government has trouble balancing its budget due to millions being flown to warlords in other nations to fight for its proxy wars. And due to its incompetence it is facing a water shortage too. Now it constantly interferes and promotes terrorism in Afghanistan due to Afghanistan being the start of half its rivers that flow in its nation. Due to its stupid government they fought a needless war with Iraq that cost billions of dollars and millions of lives (both Iran and Iraq ere dumb and dumber in this situation). Many will say that Iran is just playing politics but Iran has no clue on what real politics is (just only trying to promote Shia members in power). If Iran went towards a route of more cooperation and trade with its neighbors then it could have avoided so much of the brunt of sanctions. Now all its neighbors (from Armenia to even close FSU nations like Uzbekistan) try to avoid doing business with Iran and Iran has no real allies in the region except Syria. Heck the Uzbekistan government has more friendly business terms with Afghan businessmen than Iranian businessmen. I wish the revolution had resulted in a more smarter and progressive government taking over Iran, not these stupid towel heads.

Gosh. Imagine a nation squandering immense wealth and good will to meddle in international politics for the benefit of a tiny percentage of that nation's ideological zealots.

Seems (((utterly ridiculous))).

[Pride male]

It's crazy how Iran has been at odds with Europe for thousands of years. The Greeks vs the Persians, the Romans vs the Parthians, the Byzantines vs the Sassanid's, the English vs the Iranians and now the Americans vs The Iranians. Now that's beef.

[BlueMark]

(04-09-2019 03:32 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

It's crazy how Iran has been at odds with Europe for thousands of years. The Greeks vs the Persians, the Romans vs the Parthians, the Byzantines vs the Sassanid's, the English vs the Iranians and now the Americans vs The Iranians. Now that's beef.

And you know which country has had good relations with Iran all those years?

China.