[Roosh]

(10-10-2014 11:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

^ Getting in the ring plays into Tucker's hands. He's needs the publicity, Roosh doesn't.

Yeah I could do another video or an ROK article for lulz, but it would help him quite a bit. I don't think he's worth more than a forum thread.

[Veloce]

(10-10-2014 04:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

He first contacted me in 2008 asking to review Bang:











And AGAIN not even 5 months ago:

I can't be the only one here that realizes this is Crazy Stalker Bitch™ behavior.

You know what I'm talking about; you meet some girl, maybe through an approach, and she comes on really strong. She starts asking really personal questions right off the bat. Maybe she hasn't gotten laid in a while or hasn't had a boyfriend and she clings on really tight.

So then you step back, toss her in the reject pile, and then the venom starts coming out and she turns into Crazy Stalker Bitch™. What's one of the key behaviors of Crazy Stalker Bitch™? Trashing your reputation, "That guy is a total creep, he tried to get with me and I shot him down". Or worse, a false rape accusation, as we've seen from embittered women rejected by powerful and famous men. If Crazy Stalker Bitch™ can't get what she wants, she'll make sure noone does and that you pay.

That is exactly the behavior that Jordan here is displaying.

[Gmac]

[runsonmagic]

(10-11-2014 05:38 AM)The PerSev Wrote:  

I check out Ryan Holiday's blog sometimes. I think he's a sharp guy. He used to always sing Tucker's praises and for the life of me I couldn't understand why. Now, the more this idiot makes a sorry spectacle of himself, the more I'm convinced it was just his bottom line Ryan was "appreciating". He probably just pimped this idiot out and used him as a ladder towards bigger and better things.

Ryan wrote about having to make the difficult decision to break off working with a friends, and then posted an article called something like "sorry an another epiphany won't change your life," both of which were clear references to Tucker.

Kid used a college interview with Tucker to meet Robert Green and the CEO of American Apparel. Now that he's made a name for himself, he doesn't need Tucker. Guy is smart.

[Aliblahba]

(10-10-2014 11:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

^ Getting in the ring plays into Tucker's hands. He's needs the publicity, Roosh doesn't.

This has nothing to do with publicity. It has to do with not feeding into the feminist/liberal brainwashing of 'being the better man', or 'turn the other cheek'. I've kicked the dog shit out of men for running their mouths like this. This is 'alpha' or 'redpill'. If Roosh needs funding to get out here to Austin, I think we can foot the bill. I'll ref the fight. Semper Fi.

[The PerSev]

(10-11-2014 09:39 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

Ryan wrote about having to make the difficult decision to break off working with a friends, and then posted an article called something like "sorry an another epiphany won't change your life," both of which were clear references to Tucker.

Kid used a college interview with Tucker to meet Robert Green and the CEO of American Apparel. Now that he's made a name for himself, he doesn't need Tucker. Guy is smart.

Yeah, that's what I suspected. In some of his earlier blog posts he talked about how Tucker patronized him with the "you're a college kid you don't know shit" routine. That dickhead thought that just because he wrote frat humor book that entitled him to act like Kevin Spacey in Swimming with Sharks.

[Aether]

(10-10-2014 06:28 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Look at his iTunes ratings. They are horrible.

Keep in mind that Tucker Max comes from the Tim Ferriss school of buying ratings and reviews, too. Even with his efforts, this is what his shitty podcast is reviewed at. The Mating Grounds Podcast has almost as many 2 and 1 star reviews as 5 star (fake) reviews.

Went to the iTunes store to check out his current ratings, looks like they got reset or something

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-11-2014 11:04 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 11:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

^ Getting in the ring plays into Tucker's hands. He's needs the publicity, Roosh doesn't.

This has nothing to do with publicity. It has to do with not feeding into the feminist/liberal brainwashing of 'being the better man', or 'turn the other cheek'. I've kicked the dog shit out of men for running their mouths like this. This is 'alpha' or 'redpill'. If Roosh needs funding to get out here to Austin, I think we can foot the bill. I'll ref the fight. Semper Fi.

I know exactly where you're coming from Ali. I get it. I grew up in a culture where if you ran your mouth off, you would have to knuckle up. I respect the hell out of you for rising to the challenge to defend someone you respect, because that's vanishing from male friendships, but there's more at play here than just someone shit-talking. We are currently in a Culture War. This is about marketing and clickbait - trying to provoke an emotional reaction for attention and profit.

Even if Max loses, you have still given him a story that can be spun into page views, interviews and wider attention - possibly even from the mainstream press, since they despise Roosh. Max is the reformed bad boy who has been castrated learnt the error of his ways, versus Roosh: PUA / MRA / Right Wing Conservative / Cis White Male / Uneducated / Sex Tourist / Writer Of Rape Manuals / Probably-Southern / Literally Hitler.

As frustrating as it is, we no longer live in a culture where a man defending his honour will be respected. The intelligentsia will paint you as enacting 'violent toxic masculinity' due to your 'fragile male ego'. The combination of Emotionalism / Irrationalism / Symbolism currently at play in society means they're attracted to and fascinated by the pathetic: Max getting his arse kicked means they'll sympathise with the loser (i.e. 'victim). This will increase his following.

It would also make it seems like Roosh cares about his criticism, and, thus, validates his opinion. It's not about 'turning the other cheek' but not respecting the source of criticism enough to be emotionally-provoked, when we can recognise they're provoking to gain attention and power.

So, fighting is pointless. You can't drag a man who has repeatedly been shown to be dishonourable into a honourable masculine sphere, like a boxing ring, and expect him to respect it. If he got his arse kicked, expect a lawsuit.

You know all the shit going on with Gamergate? They gave Literally Who - a fringe feminist - power by attacking her to begin with, instead of just ignoring her, which is why they now use that name for her instead of her birth name to lower her google and twitter rankings. Smart move.

[Truth Teller]

Tucker Max is learning that drunken frat boy game doesn't work when you're nearly 40. Unfortunately, he seems to have some sort of cognitive dissonance about game in general.

[The PerSev]

(10-11-2014 03:19 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

This is about marketing and clickbait - trying to provoke an emotional reaction for attention and profit.

It would also make it seems like Roosh cares about his criticism, and, thus, validates his opinion. It's not about 'turning the other cheek' but not respecting the source of criticism enough to be emotionally-provoked, when we can recognise they're provoking to gain attention and power.

What's funny is exactly just how transparent and lazy he is. His tactic is literally from the 48 laws of power. As if that is all it takes to be successful or to outfox your enemies.

He doesn't put any effort into, you know, making content that is actually good and will help people the way Roosh or MikeCF or Christian McQueen or Victor Pride or Chris from GLL do. Content that doesn't just make you pay money but actually be grateful for the insight you're getting.

He doesn't even, at the very least, market his shit properly. His whole thought process was "stir some shit up > pray some idiots actually buy this stuff".

To quote from HBO's Rome, "poor fool, he has the cunning of a sardine."

[R Smoov]

Im celebration of my 1,420th post, I decided to hit a lick for the forum.




CAUGHT DAT NIGGA SLIPPIN.

[Captain Gh]

(10-11-2014 03:19 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 11:04 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 11:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

^ Getting in the ring plays into Tucker's hands. He's needs the publicity, Roosh doesn't.

This has nothing to do with publicity. It has to do with not feeding into the feminist/liberal brainwashing of 'being the better man', or 'turn the other cheek'. I've kicked the dog shit out of men for running their mouths like this. This is 'alpha' or 'redpill'. If Roosh needs funding to get out here to Austin, I think we can foot the bill. I'll ref the fight. Semper Fi.

I know exactly where you're coming from Ali. I get it. I grew up in a culture where if you ran your mouth off, you would have to knuckle up. I respect the hell out of you for rising to the challenge to defend someone you respect, because that's vanishing from male friendships, but there's more at play here than just someone shit-talking. We are currently in a Culture War. This is about marketing and clickbait - trying to provoke an emotional reaction for attention and profit.

Even if Max loses, you have still given him a story that can be spun into page views, interviews and wider attention - possibly even from the mainstream press, since they despise Roosh. Max is the reformed bad boy who has been castrated learnt the error of his ways, versus Roosh: PUA / MRA / Right Wing Conservative / Cis White Male / Uneducated / Sex Tourist / Writer Of Rape Manuals / Probably-Southern / Literally Hitler.

As frustrating as it is, we no longer live in a culture where a man defending his honour will be respected. The intelligentsia will paint you as enacting 'violent toxic masculinity' due to your 'fragile male ego'. The combination of Emotionalism / Irrationalism / Symbolism currently at play in society means they're attracted to and fascinated by the pathetic: Max getting his arse kicked means they'll sympathise with the loser (i.e. 'victim). This will increase his following.

It would also make it seems like Roosh cares about his criticism, and, thus, validates his opinion. It's not about 'turning the other cheek' but not respecting the source of criticism enough to be emotionally-provoked, when we can recognise they're provoking to gain attention and power.

So, fighting is pointless. You can't drag a man who has repeatedly been shown to be dishonourable into a honourable masculine sphere, like a boxing ring, and expect him to respect it. If he got his arse kicked, expect a lawsuit.

You know all the shit going on with Gamergate? They gave Literally Who - a fringe feminist - power by attacking her to begin with, instead of just ignoring her, which is why they now use that name for her instead of her birth name to lower her google and twitter rankings. Smart move.

Damn, once again AnonymousBosch is painting for us the bigger picture about what seemed to be a petty criticism coming from some nobodies! Taught I knew what was going on, but now I really do know what is going on! Big thanks AnonymousBosch!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

MikeCF twittered the link recently:


http://www.reddit.com/r/puahate/comments...w_puahate/

Quote:

Tucker Max has picked up where PUAHATE left off. His podcast is perhaps doing more damage to the PUA scene than PUAHATE did. On his podcast, Tucker has a fat shaming professor and other rogue PhDs who never miss the chance to drop a deuce on PUAs.
The reason they gang up on PUAs is b/c they are trying to steal PUA’s market share. While Tucker’s creepy nerd squad officially opposes the PUA scene, they are essentially selling the same repackaged, politically correct pickup advice. It’s funny to see them trying to pick up a turd by the clean end (i.e. to sell cleaned up version of PUA material while officially denouncing it). Bust out some popcorn and enjoy the show

The user is MrsValizadeh

Quote:

Tucker talks shit about my son again, starting at 11:00 http://www.thematinggrounds.com/jordan-h...interview/
Thank you, Mr. Max!

Maybe Roosh's mom joined reddit ?

[Windom Earle]

Tucker Max sounds like Napoleon Dynamite in places, in the way he inflects his words.

...and Jordan Harbinger sounds like Rex Kwon Do.

[Private Man]

He's trying to make himself part of the Manosphere. That's very galling.

[The Reactionary Tree]

How popular is Tucker Max's blog Mating Grounds? Does anyone really read it? The entire manosphere has rejected him and called him out as a fraud. Who is taking this guy seriously?

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

This site (http://podbay.fm/browse/health) has his podcast ranked at #71. In the interview he says his podcast was ranked #1 in "health category at the time" he made his first comments. So either he lied and gave himself a nice 70 place bump or his podcast slid 70 spots since his first comments.

[UnW]

Quote:

Tucker:
Someone posted it on one his forums or sent it to him. This dude like freaked out, freaked out, man. First off, he recorded a video demanding an apology from me, and posted it on YouTube. Called me a liar, went through this elaborate explanation about why what he did with this Ukraine book was not lying. Like he put pictures in and there was a big disclaimer at the bottom that said that he hadn’t slept with these women–whatever. These were just examples of the Ukrainian women or whatever. Some elaborate explanation or why he wasn’t a liar which of course means that he’s probably lying, right?

Jordan:
Yeah, of course.

Tucker:
Right.

Jordan:
That’s very lawyerly of him.

Two law school grads really know what is "lawyerly" wouldn't you think?

[runsonmagic]

I think I've figured out who the target audience of Mating Grounds is.

[TravelerKai]

See. I knew something was off. How can a straight guy give advice on faggotry to gay guys, if he is not gay himself? Now that he is putting himself out there as an ass pirate, I'm not sure we have to do anything about him anymore.

Any normal man repulsed by gay stuff would rather join our team rather than his.

[alexdagr81]

Now Jordan Harbinger has an article on Goodmenproject. Talking about how he's a "reformed PUA". Dude is obviously using his lawyer skills and game to con leftists. Do we have a new Hugo Schwyzer?

[runsonmagic]

Just saw that Jack Donovan recently did an interview with Mating Grounds.

Are those who believe "if you don't call out frauds, you are one" are going to call out Jack now?