[blacknwhitespade]

I realize this may be a topic that has been beaten into the ground before on this forum, I found one old thread but it didn't have much meat.

What are some tactics for going after women that you work with? Most people say this is a big no-no, but the reality also is that many guys meet dates/girlfriends and even their future wives in the workplace.

There is an attractive new secretary working in my building now. My company is somewhat small, but cliquish. Most people cling to their own departments. I work on the 2nd floor, so I only see her occasionally in the cafeteria or passing by in the hallways. I've asked her for the key to the office supply room twice, introduced myself, had some brief witty banter, I can tell she likes me. She has a kind/curious/slightly nervous look and says "hi" when we've passed each other in the hallways a few times.

Are there any specific Day Game tactics, questions/chat starters that could apply here?? Asking her a question about something she's eating/drinking if I see her in the cafeteria is the best prop I can think of right now. I could go ask her for the keys to the supply room again, and make that an excuse to engage her, but people rarely use the supply room in our building, so it would probably look weird and obvious.

[polar]

The office is a place where betas with no social skills meet their frumpy wives because they're forced to be around each other without an agenda. It's a terrible place to meet hook ups. Don't shit where you eat.

Don't make moves on her if you work at a small company. Others will notice and will talk. White knight risk.

Don't make moves on her if you work at a big company. Others will notice and will talk. White knight risk, and HR might find out.

Don't make moves if you're at a medium company either.

Game everyone. A guy who talks with everyone = sociable. A guy who talks only to one girl = creeper and a potential liability to the company. Don't take anything beyond plausible deniability at the office, network with your co-workers, but don't treat them as your friends.

Only exception would be if you already have an exit strategy (another job lined up, etc.) If you've given your notice, pipeline away for after-work plans. Just maintain that plausible deniability while you're in the office so you don't tarnish your reputation in case you need a reference down the line.

In your case, try to maintain friendliness, but disqualify yourself. Hang out in groups. Make a move when either you or her are on the way out.

[Dalaran1991]

(08-26-2014 08:50 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

I realize this may be a topic that has been beaten into the ground before on this forum, I found one old thread but it didn't have much meat.

What are some tactics for going after women that you work with? Most people say this is a big no-no, but the reality also is that many guys meet dates/girlfriends and even their future wives in the workplace.

There is an attractive new secretary working in my building now. My company is somewhat small, but cliquish. Most people cling to their own departments. I work on the 2nd floor, so I only see her occasionally in the cafeteria or passing by in the hallways. I've asked her for the key to the office supply room twice, introduced myself, had some brief witty banter, I can tell she likes me. She has a kind/curious/slightly nervous look and says "hi" when we've passed each other in the hallways a few times.

Are there any specific Day Game tactics, questions/chat starters that could apply here?? Asking her a question about something she's eating/drinking if I see her in the cafeteria is the best prop I can think of right now. I could go ask her for the keys to the supply room again, and make that an excuse to engage her, but people rarely use the supply room in our building, so it would probably look weird and obvious.

Yes, and most if not all of these guys are betas, and end up getting mauled and divorced raped by their corporate feminism-overdosed gf/wife. Tell me of one such relationship that ever ends well for the guy.

Most people are betas and they find women at the prison they are confined to: corporate world, only to be confined to another prison of marriage and divorce.

You wouldnt give that secretary a second look if you are going out and hitting on hot girls.

If this is a job you dont really value, I actually think you should go ahead and hit on her, see the shitstorm for yourself then write back. In that case, talk to her when you two are alone if possible. You dont need a fucking excuse to talk to her. Say hi one day and "hey your hair look nice today" even if she only ties it up, or similar shit. Avoid heavy kino if others are around. Suggest afterwork hangout and game as normal.

If this job is important, just dont man.

[polar]

If you're in a corporate job and references are crucial to your next job, toe the line - be a good little wage slave and leave your dick at home. If you're in a McJob with high turnover in a service industry where references aren't important or conduct is by definition more casual and hooking up is regular (which doesn't seem to be the case), then fuck away.

[puckerman]

This topic is beaten to death because it's a bad idea. Someone always brings it up now and then, and they immediately get shot down.

Don't sarge at work.

[heavy]

Roosh has a great story, I believe it's chapter 4, in his book 30 Bangs, titled 'The Coworker'.

It's a pretty solid how-to regarding your question. Pretty good book overall.

[blacknwhitespade]

I think she may be an intern/temp, in which case time may be running out for me to make a move. With all consideration weighed to the warnings given, I'm gonna see if I can chat her up casually, pick her brain, just test the waters and create some rapport via some elderly chat and create a flirty vibe if it goes well. "Game everyone" as Polar said. Gonna be a challenge just to get her isolated if I wanna pull the trigger/ask her out to place outside work, but I'm just gonna pet the cat a little and get to the bottom of things.

[The Reactionary Tree]

Dont shit where you eat.

Your income is vital to you supporting yourself. Fucking around with girls at work is a great way to jeopardize your job and potentially your career.

Dont game girls in your work circle or your social circle i.e. your friends. It is a great way to fuck yourself. You will only end up burning bridges.

[Vaun]

Dont do it. The only reason these girls look half good is because you look at them so much, like in high school. Career killer and mental illness inducing if you are corporate, in the service industries, like in a restaurant, bang away. When I was a cook at Dennys I used to fuck girls in the refrigerator. I got head once sitting on a frozen turkey. On the other hand I watched a friend have to walk away from a $150K/yr job because his gf broke up with him in the office.

[Lucario]

What if you are a male nurse ?
can you still try and hit on the nurses or "don't shit where you eat" rule applies ?

[BadgerHut]

(08-28-2014 08:51 PM)Lucario Wrote:  

What if you are a male nurse ?
can you still try and hit on the nurses or "don't shit where you eat" rule applies ?

Male nurse = DLV to female nurses, who have access to (male) doctors. Ask Athol Kay.

Also you are working in a super-femcentric environment which makes the fallout of a bad hookup that much worse.

[BadgerHut]

(08-26-2014 08:50 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

There is an attractive new secretary working in my building now. My company is somewhat small, but cliquish. Most people cling to their own departments. I work on the 2nd floor, so I only see her occasionally in the cafeteria or passing by in the hallways. I've asked her for the key to the office supply room twice, introduced myself, had some brief witty banter, I can tell she likes me. She has a kind/curious/slightly nervous look and says "hi" when we've passed each other in the hallways a few times.

Do NOT try to date this woman. Rather, casually discuss what she's planning for her weekend/Friday/whatever, then suggest she come to some party or get-together you are having with a crew.

Suggest she bring some friends.

Bang the friends.

[HawkWrites]

No. NO. I also have a third option: HELL NO.

I'm firmly of the belief of "You don't shit where you eat". There's really no benefit to be derived from banging a chick you work with or near. Your balls can EASILY be on the line through the HR department and that's just something you don't want to go through.

[BadgerHut]

(08-29-2014 02:45 AM)HawkWrites Wrote:  

No. NO. I also have a third option: HELL NO.

I'm firmly of the belief of "You don't shit where you eat". There's really no benefit to be derived from banging a chick you work with or near. Your balls can EASILY be on the line through the HR department and that's just something you don't want to go through.

Also - some guys think that canoodling with the receptionists/EAs/etc is safer because they aren't in your team/chain of command. Let me tell you from secondhand views, you never know which secretary you hooked up with or flamed out with is going to become the CEO's personal assistant, or get on your boss' boss' desk, and now you have zero access to powerful people in the company because she's going to make sure you are last on the priority list.

On the other hand, _non-sexual_ gaming of the support staff in an office can really pay off and could be a blog unto itself.

[polar]

(08-29-2014 10:36 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 02:45 AM)HawkWrites Wrote:  

No. NO. I also have a third option: HELL NO.

I'm firmly of the belief of "You don't shit where you eat". There's really no benefit to be derived from banging a chick you work with or near. Your balls can EASILY be on the line through the HR department and that's just something you don't want to go through.

Also - some guys think that canoodling with the receptionists/EAs/etc is safer because they aren't in your team/chain of command. Let me tell you from secondhand views, you never know which secretary you hooked up with or flamed out with is going to become the CEO's personal assistant, or get on your boss' boss' desk, and now you have zero access to powerful people in the company because she's going to make sure you are last on the priority list.

On the other hand, _non-sexual_ gaming of the support staff in an office can really pay off and could be a blog unto itself.

Powerful insights.

Here are some posts on employment game (this is part three, there are links to the previous parts)
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/09/05/...ospecting/

[zaqan]

I keep seeing this "dont shit where you eat meme" here and elsewhere, and then I go to work and see a good number of couples, many fairly long term. It happens. Too many people in this community think that the divorce rate is like 80%. Its not even 50% and for virgin women, its like 10-20%. As long as you dont marry a whore, youre probably fine. Now, going around and trying to bang multiple women at work can be dangerous if you are not a manager. But a casual or serious relationship with one girl happens all the time.

[BadgerHut]

(08-30-2014 12:40 AM)zaqan Wrote:  

I keep seeing this "dont shit where you eat meme" here and elsewhere, and then I go to work and see a good number of couples, many fairly long term. It happens. Too many people in this community think that the divorce rate is like 80%. Its not even 50% and for virgin women, its like 10-20%. As long as you dont marry a whore, youre probably fine. Now, going around and trying to bang multiple women at work can be dangerous if you are not a manager. But a casual or serious relationship with one girl happens all the time.

You also see tons of people out in the world eating shitty food, running up debt on credit cards, and making other bad decisions. "If it was so bad you wouldn't see so many people do it!" is unsound thinking.

A lot of those relationships will go bad in a way that impacts somebody's career. In some cases it won't be obvious to people on the outside, it will be a subtle political move because someone banged the wrong guy's secretary or a harassment complaint that was never proven and kept quiet comes up in a promotion review and they say "hmm, I just don't think we can trust this guy." In fact most bad decisions screw your life in subtle but significant ways, not in fireworks of failure.

If you want to take epically silly risks, you can go ahead but the people warning against it are not just Chicken Littles.

[zaqan]

(08-30-2014 01:15 PM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

You also see tons of people out in the world eating shitty food, running up debt on credit cards, and making other bad decisions. "If it was so bad you wouldn't see so many people do it!" is unsound thinking.

A lot of those relationships will go bad in a way that impacts somebody's career. In some cases it won't be obvious to people on the outside, it will be a subtle political move because someone banged the wrong guy's secretary or a harassment complaint that was never proven and kept quiet comes up in a promotion review and they say "hmm, I just don't think we can trust this guy." In fact most bad decisions screw your life in subtle but significant ways, not in fireworks of failure.

If you want to take epically silly risks, you can go ahead but the people warning against it are not just Chicken Littles.

Yea, screwing around at the workplace is probably not the best idea, but the sentiment seems to be against anything at work. Yet, it happens all the time, and works well sometimes, not other times. Playing it case by case is important. For example, I once was going to transfer with two coworkers, one of whom liked me and was being difficult about sealing the deal, so I decided to stay in place. If it went sour, Id be stuck there with her.

I suppose it also depends on where you work. My mind is thinking of a large business with moderate turnover. You might be thinking of a small office that has low turnover. That might not be the best idea then because people arent going to forget. So again, it depends.

[XXL]

You can break the ice with "we work in the same department/building/company and we don't even know each other, I've seen you few times here, hi I'm ____". Then talk about some boring casual stuff, whatever, what interesting you you've seen yesterday outside or what funny shit you heard in the office today, just a conversation.

Once my coworker told us all that once she told her husband to peel off potatos for a lunch and he peeled off all potatos he found in house [she meant few for both of them] hahahah... I told that in a kitchen to some girls and boom I was in a conversation in a second.

Short funny stories or real life fails are the best in my opinion to break the ice cause technically speaking you just share good vibe, you come with something fun and engaging and expect nothing in return at the same time.

[TheSagaContinues]

This sorry ass pos is exactly who you don't want to be. Going after low-hanging fruit and than posting the shameful proposal, that occurred at the workplace, on facebook.

Just cringeworthy, hair-raising stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrAFHF7...e=youtu.be

[BadgerHut]

(09-09-2014 10:36 PM)TheSagaContinues Wrote:  

This sorry ass pos is exactly who you don't want to be. Going after low-hanging fruit and than posting the shameful proposal, that occurred at the workplace, on facebook.

Just cringeworthy, hair-raising stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrAFHF7...e=youtu.be

Yeah, and the moment the relationship goes bad this video goes into evidence for a workplace harassment suit.

[Noir]

I agree, don't do it but that makes me a hypocrite. Also, I don't know how the feminist HR of the US of A works either.

I did it though, because I am stubborn and got drunk with office people. My naturally flirty persona planted the seed and the logistics paved the way.

The sex was fantastic, considering these girls are eyeing you out all day and fantasizing on what they want you to do to them.

Do it if you can get away with it and your workplace is relaxed about these things. Relaxed means others have hooked up or have things going on already. Then you're not so bad. Hell, my boss was fucking another girl from our office for 6 months, nobody cared.

My office is a fucking shitshow, mostly girls and I am the only guy with charisma and charm.

It was only a matter of time.

The girls invite themselves over as you are initially mysterious and want to get to know you. It will 'just happen'.

Banged 2 girls from my workplace in the past 3 months, my boss knows and nobody cares. All the girls in my office have picked up on it and want to see for themselves, a lot of undercover flirting. They bring me coffee and do things for me but I always have to keep a distance.

I let them know their position by bringing other girls out (should we ever be in a similar place) or they see me on social media with other girls. They know their place but the fact that you are spending so many hours a week together, it is inevitable.

You can reap the benefits and trust me, it will happen sooner or later. I just limit my exposure to work related parties and keep a low profile in and out of the office. I am completely aloof to all the flirting and chaos but it beckons more of the same.

Really, don't do it if you cannot handle it. I explicitly tell the girls that this is purely entertainment and I am not here to listen to their problems, be their boyfriends or anything like that.

A new girl came to work on Monday, yesterday she followed me for a smoke and started telling me about how she is stressed. I told her I have been the same recently and she brings up the topic of 'relief' and partners.

I could keep going with this but remember the office hierarchy of other women. The two I have banged are friends but they are completely cool with it.

Why?

One has a boyfriend, the other just broke up with him.

I don't need to further sabotage my position, with these girls but remember, everyone loses just as much. I know I am an asset to the company and the higher-ups are lads too so we all get along and its a shit-show. The girls have more to lose and therefore, sex wins.

There is a difference between honesty and discretion. Master it and plow away.

Finally, friend-zone them before you get friendzoned. It keeps it warm for the future.

[TheSagaContinues]

(09-10-2014 08:44 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 10:36 PM)TheSagaContinues Wrote:  

This sorry ass pos is exactly who you don't want to be. Going after low-hanging fruit and than posting the shameful proposal, that occurred at the workplace, on facebook.

Just cringeworthy, hair-raising stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrAFHF7...e=youtu.be

Yeah, and the moment the relationship goes bad this video goes into evidence for a workplace harassment suit.

I don't know who copied and pasted my post but the vitriol is good for a laugh. They are an angry lot for sure

Always fun to pick at those idiots so good job whoever reposted my comment on youtube





Who the hell do you think you are?

Go back to whatever hole you came out of.

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Jeff Atkinson

19 minutes ago

@Monoffriendship, anyone reading this knows it's you who is the sorry ass loser. Know what "low hanging fruit" is? It's anonymously posting shitty comments on youtube videos. 
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Derek Shiau
16 seconds ago

+Manoffriendship damn what the fuck is your problem. and dont you have some pokemon dungeon to be playing?? or maybe you just continue looking for your dream japanese robot girlfriend and shut the fuck up. 
BrigidSiobhan
21 minutes ago

@mannoffriendship, you are the sorry ass loser. This is a beautiful display of love! Don't be jealous because you're alone and sad. Keep trolling on happy couples, cretin. Those two have a romantic story to share with friends and family-- something you will never understand with your current attitude. To the newlyweds in the video, I wish you a lifetime of happiness!! Forget the haters!!!

[Cattle Rustler]

I knew:

....male nurses who fucked female nurses

....male nurses who fucked female patients (consensual)

....male nurses who fuck patient's moms (the patient was a kid)

I used to work HR dealing with nurses. The truth is...we don't talk about "sexual harrassment" stuff with other companies, we just state that you worked here from X to X, got paid X and were an employee. For references, just ask the recruiter/supervisor if you could use them and they'll say yes or no.

Fuck it, if you were a liability I would be glad to give you a reference so I won't have to deal with your lawsuit-coming-any-day-now ass anymore.