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08-11-2014, 11:38 AM
Thanks for the correction Mongo. While my weight was heavier than my regular deadlift, maybe my weight was limited by my quads as I'm a poor squatter relative to my deadlift, and this caused there to be little involvement for my upper back compared to regular deads / partial deads. I just assumed that the more upright angle of the torso, compared to the regular deadlift, reduced the need for the scap retractors and lats to work to stabilise (although I suppose it's possible to still pull with more vertical tibia and angled torso even with the trap bar).
Which do you favour with your athletes?
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08-11-2014, 04:31 PM
How heavy is your lift? I thought I was taking too long with 2 min.
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08-11-2014, 05:05 PM
How long does it take you guys to recover from a hard leg day?
If I get a good leg day in (3x10 squats, leg presses, lunges, hamstring machine, and quad extensions) I need at least four days to recover and stop being sore, and on the first, second, and third day recovering I can barely walk. I'm not on steroids, obviously. For chest and triceps day it's usually 3 days rest to stop being sore.
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08-11-2014, 05:18 PM
^ I don't get seriously sore at all, but then again I'm not doing bodybuilding routines. I do either heavy squats ATG or moderate ATG pause squats and heavy deadlifts every workout, which is every other day.
I can't imagine being sore like that all the time. When I first started seriously lifting again doing 5x5 squats I could barely walk, but after 2 weeks the DOMS stopped entirely. I'm a tiny bit sore in my left calf today solely because I did a bunch of power jerks at the end of a fairly intense workout, and even that is no more than a minor annoyance.
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08-11-2014, 05:35 PM
Any good ideas on how to add more width to the chest starting to get man boobs
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08-11-2014, 05:53 PM
^ Well are you overweight? Are your shoulders pulled forward because your chest is overdeveloped relative to your back? It depends on what you mean by man boobs, and what the root cause of that appearance is.
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08-11-2014, 07:40 PM
Quote: (08-10-2014 04:01 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:
i can't do cleans or snatches properly even with empty bar
I struggled with clean as well. I still cannot claim I'm doing it properly 100%, but I'm much better at it now.
This dvd helped me a lot with it. It is one thing to read about it in a
book, and another to
actually see it.
Good luck:
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08-11-2014, 10:10 PM
Quote: (08-11-2014 07:40 PM)OBJ Snakebite Wrote:
Quote: (08-10-2014 04:01 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:
i can't do cleans or snatches properly even with empty bar
I struggled with clean as well. I still cannot claim I'm doing it properly 100%, but I'm much better at it now. This dvd helped me a lot with it. It is one thing to read about it in a book, and another to actually see it.
Good luck:
Theres far too much going on in the olympic lifts to be able to watch a video and catch everything, then do it properly. Get a coach. There are stages to each lift that need to be perfected, they say that when a snatch goes up, it should be almost effortless. You will not be able to figure out how to jump, shrug, spread the feet upon landing, catch the bar in the deepest part of the squat, and where to catch the bar overhead so that you reach proper lockout without eyes on. Take it from someone thats been there. Investing the time and money is priceless for the olympic lifts.
Edit: power clean go ahead and do by yourself, because it is not nearly as technical as an olympic clean. Theres usually a minimal squat involved and mostly just muscling the weight up. That being said, start light, I've seen people fuck themselves up hard with this too.
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08-12-2014, 02:57 AM
After 3 weeks with no lifting at all and heavy drinking, I went down and squatted 440lbs - not easy, but I got it up there.
Another 3 months of heaving lifting then I will be going for a 8-month fatloss stint. I've got a pretty good gut now.
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08-12-2014, 07:12 AM
^Thanks - now my deadlift, that's a whole another story (and a sad one lol).
looking forward to seeing where I'm at in 3 months and 12 months.
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08-15-2014, 08:04 PM
farmer's walks are a severely underrated exercise
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08-16-2014, 02:00 AM
Yesterday, I murdered my shoulders with a dumbbell clean and press workout. Highly recommend this lift. It's really bringing up my barbell overhead press.
http://ditillo2.blogspot.jp/2008/08/dumb...power.html
Tried to bench today and failed a single at a weight that was easy a few days ago. After that, I just walked out the gym. My body is obviously asking for a break - just realized that I haven't taken a day off in over a week!
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08-16-2014, 03:21 AM
Any good tips on increasing forearm size or is that genetic?
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08-16-2014, 08:32 AM
Quote: (08-16-2014 02:00 AM)dreambig Wrote:
Yesterday, I murdered my shoulders with a dumbbell clean and press workout. Highly recommend this lift. It's really bringing up my barbell overhead press.
http://ditillo2.blogspot.jp/2008/08/dumb...power.html
Tried to bench today and failed a single at a weight that was easy a few days ago. After that, I just walked out the gym. My body is obviously asking for a break - just realized that I haven't taken a day off in over a week!
I've done that before.
I've also driven to the gym many times, parked up but can't get out of the car. I just go home knowing that my body doesn't want to train.
Always listen to your body.
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08-16-2014, 09:33 AM
How much volume do you need to get some real lateral deltoid and bicep growth and which exercises?
I mostly do compounds, but want the bro muscles to grow now.