[MtnMan]

nice thread, lots of poetic shit.

[Nomad77]

Never fails to get their panties wet - poetry

[soup]

(07-01-2014 02:05 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I have lots of real women friends. This is the kind of manosphere BS guys with a stunted social development go around repeating.

If you go around believing that women are toys, bitches, sluts, the enemy or whatever you have already created a mental pre-condition that will guarantee your unhappiness in all of your relationships with women. It's the same as believing that black people are criminals or any particular race is bad. It is the foundation of all types of racism and only serves to divide and alienate people. Then the next step is thinking that they are then going to use "game" to fuck them over. It becomes their gun in the war of the sexes.

But there really is something called karma. You get back from the world what you put into it.

Ok Nomad, you're better than all of us because you found a seemingly perfect girl while we just get garbage.

Not only that, but our way of approaching the matter is wrong, and yours is the way. But, you don't really want to talk about it here because it won't work for us.

Moma said he met with you, so I don't think you are a complete , but there's something really weird about the stuff you write here.

You made a thread on intention, but I'm not clear on your intentions posting here if you think what we do is whack.

[Nomad77]

LOL, I am weird? I think exactly the same thing about you soup And I have met a lot more people than Moma. Take a look at my rep points from people who have met me

[soup]

I didn't say you were weird, but what your writing here has been bizarre.

Also, I'm the first to admit I'm weird. I don't think there are a lot of guys out there who live my kind of life.

[Nomad77]

I will agree that my writings are usually of a more abstract and theoretical nature. It's just how I think I guess. We are all weird in some way or other.

Tell me something what is your objective on here?

[Christian McQueen]

If a new member posted the stuff you've been posting, they would be banned and would be labeled one, or many of the following:

-Game denialist
-Secretly a woman
-Using 'shaming' language to make notch-counters feel bad
-Pushing 'The One' belief (which is inherently false)

Some guys like to just pump n dump.

Some guys use game to find one girl and settle down.

Neither are right or wrong, but acting like guys who just pump n dump is empty and we are unhappy is ludicrous.

I've had both scenarios and overall do not build my happiness from one specific girl.

As the girl goes, so goes your 'happiness'.

Build your happiness based on yourself first and let the girl add to it, but not be all of your happiness.

[Nomad77]

Well, obviously it's difficult to call me a game denialist since I have helped trained more than a few guys on here and continue to do so. And since I have met a lot of guys on here and none of them have tried to fuck me, I guess I am not much of a woman I do believe notch counting is ultimately a bad thing for both men and women. I don't push The One belief. I push a constructive relationship belief. Maybe I am just not that good at writing.

If 50% of the people that have met me in person and gone out "gaming" with me voted to ban me I would delete my account and never say another word. In other words I am willing to be judged by my actions not merely my words.

[game_ethic]

Or perhaps Nomad is going through one of the 5 stages of "unplugging."

[soup]

(07-01-2014 10:27 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I will agree that my writings are usually of a more abstract and theoretical nature. It's just how I think I guess. We are all weird in some way or other.

Tell me something what is your objective on here?

I came here out of necessity. I was lucky enough to have a friend who showed me Citizen Renegade, and from there I found Roosh's blog.

I had a very strong sense that something was off in my life with regards to females.

My objective here is to learn and to hopefully share knowledge that will help other guys, because I think that there's too much dog eat dog going with todays dudes while women are getting run of the house. I also come here to stay up on some issues that don't get talked about outside of the manosphere, and to hear what the RVF guys have to say about them.

I still feel like there is a lot to learn and do on my end. I've made improvements, but my game is far from perfect. I come here to find new things to try out or to ask advice.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(07-01-2014 10:29 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

If a new member posted the stuff you've been posting, they would be banned and would be labeled one, or many of the following:

-Game denialist
-Secretly a woman
-Using 'shaming' language to make notch-counters feel bad
-Pushing 'The One' belief (which is inherently false)

Some guys like to just pump n dump.

Some guys use game to find one girl and settle down.

Neither are right or wrong, but acting like guys who just pump n dump is empty and we are unhappy is ludicrous.

I've had both scenarios and overall do not build my happiness from one specific girl.

As the girl goes, so goes your 'happiness'.

Build your happiness based on yourself first and let the girl add to it, but not be all of your happiness.

Great post.

And I would add that if someone wants to read some more "abstract" observations about women that are actually accurate and useful, a good place to start is this thread, both McQueen's OP and other posts in the thread:

"Five Things Men Should Never Look For In Women"

[Christian McQueen]

If a guy is JUST pursuing women and notches in his life, then of course he may be unhappy and empty.

Women should be the icing on your cake, not your whole cake.

Once you've figured out how to get women into your bed and get them to fall in 'love' with you, then slowly the challenge will not be as alluring to oneself.

For a man to truly feel happy and challenged, there must be a driving force for something else to conquer that pushes his existence.

If a man can accomplish so much so easily, then perhaps his goals are not lofty enough.

The pursuit of a goal is often times more satisfying then the actual accomplishment of the goal.

"When I get $500k in the bank I'll be happy!" You hit that goal, then you're not happy. So you raise it to $1mil.

How come so many billionaires continue to play the game of business?

Because they crave the challenge. The money is irrelevant after a certain amount.

For me at this point in my life, the pursuit of women alone bores me. They are side dishes for my main goals. I went through years of chasing ass and then after fucking hundreds of them, became somewhat bored. I then switched gears and guess what happened?

Just by putting attention on other pursuits, the old 'magic' of pussy came back with a vengeance. I feel like I'm 21yo again.

If any of you feel like it's getting stale, then take a break. You won't forget how to game them and your dick won't fall off.

Women are like mashed potatoes. They are best enjoyed alongside a hearty steak. Pursue your individual goals while letting them be the side dish and you'll get that much more enjoyment out of them.

Seasons of a Player is something I feel like now I can honestly write about since I've come full circle. Making a note now to do a blog post on this.

******This post may have nothing to do with this thread, but I'm posting it anyway. Perhaps this is somewhat what Nomad is referring to, but in an abstract manner*********

[Nomad77]

(07-01-2014 10:37 PM)soup Wrote:  

My objective here is to learn and to hopefully share knowledge that will help other guys, because I think that there's too much dog eat dog going with todays dudes while women are getting run of the house.

Well, in this regard, we have the same objective. We may just be going about it a little differently...

[Nomad77]

(07-01-2014 10:44 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

If a guy is JUST pursuing women and notches in his life, then of course he may be unhappy and empty.

Women should be the icing on your cake, not your whole cake.

Once you're figured out how to get women into your bed and get them to fall in 'love' with you, then slowly the challenge will not be as alluring to oneself.

For a man to truly feel happy and challenged, there must be a driving force for something else to conquer that pushes his existence.

If a man can accomplish so much so easily, then perhaps his goals are not lofty enough.

The pursuit of a goal is often times more satisfying then the actual accomplishment of the goal.

"When I get $500k in the bank I'll be happy!" You hit that goal, then you're not happy. So you raise it to $1mil.

How come so many billionaires continue to play the game of business?

Because they crave the challenge. The money is irrelevant after a certain amount.

For me at this point in my life, the pursuit of women alone bores me. They are side dishes for my main goals. I went through years of chasing ass and then after fucking hundreds of them, became somewhat bored. I then switched gears and guess what happened?

Just by putting attention on other pursuits, the old 'magic' of pussy came back with a vengeance. I feel like I'm 21yo again.

If any of you feel like it's getting stale, then take a break. You won't forget how to game them and your dick won't fall off.

Women are like mashed potatoes. They are best enjoyed alongside a hearty steak. Pursue your individual goals while letting them be the side dish and you'll get that much more enjoyment out of them.

******This post may have nothing to do with this thread, but I'm posting it anyway. Perhaps this is somewhat what Nomad is referring to, but in an abstract manner*********

I can agree with this 100%.

[soup]

(07-01-2014 10:36 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Well, obviously it's difficult to call me a game denialist since I have helped trained more than a few guys on here and continue to do so. And since I have met a lot of guys on here an none of them have tried to fuck me, I guess I am not much of woman I do believe notch counting is ultimately a bad thing for both men and women. I don't push The One belief. I push a constructive relationship belief.

If 50% of the people that have met me in person voted to ban me I would delete my account and never say another word. In other words I am willing to be judged by my actions not merely my words.

Man, if you are so good at all of this, I want to learn from your posts. However, I can't remember one thing that you've written that gave me a new insight into the game, or articulated something of the covered knowledge in a way that made me think about it differently.

It just seems like a lot of ego petting.

And counting notches can be good for guys who are stuck in oneitis or are trying stuff out.

Don't delete your account, but try to write something that is helpful or game related instead of all this possible game denial trollish stuff.

Women are not equal to men. You are pushing an agenda here that is very bluepill.. it's a fantasy that stunts men's souls.

Men and women are very different. What's a constructive relationship with a woman? Having kids?

How constructive can a relationship with most American women be anyway? And even the "good" ones, or the "finds" are still slaves to the game.

I'd bet you there are guys on here that could steal your current "find" girl out from under your nose without you knowing it.

[Nomad77]

I don't believe you can learn game by reading. I believe you can only learn by doing. It is one of the things I keep saying over and over. Get off of the computer and into the real world and fail and keep failing until you stop failing. What I am saying won't make any sense until you have tried things and come to realization that maybe they don't work for you. I am an older guy, so when I talk it's from years of experience and having walked down all of the different roads myself. But ultimately our personality plays a big part in what makes us happy. I or no one else can define your happiness for you.

[Christian McQueen]

This thread is making progress:

Soup and Nomad both 'liked' my last post.

I never thought I'd see that

Progress gents, progress.

[Nomad77]

You are the great moderator McQueen

[soup]

(07-01-2014 10:52 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I don't believe you can learn game by reading. I believe you can only learn by doing. It is one of the things I keep saying over and over. Get off of the computer and into the real world and fail and keep failing until you stop failing. What I am saying won't make any sense until you have tried things and come to realization that maybe they don't work for you. I am an older guy, so when I talk it's from years of experience and having walked down all of the different roads myself. But ultimately our personality plays a big part in what makes us happy. I or no one else can define your happiness for you.

No shit. I never said just read the forum and expect pussy to fly on to your dick.

[KorbenDallas]

I don't understand why guys can't do both.

Fuck a lot of girls and then settle down.

And then, when you're older and your kids are grown, fuck some more hot bishes on the side.

As long as you take care of your family, and don't flaunt it in front of the girl you chose amongst many others who (hopefully) did a good job raising your kids and treating you well, your sex life is your business and yours alone in my opinion.

Yes its a double standard. Men die earlier too and die in all the wars.

Whenever anyone starts with equality between the sexes I tune out. Fuck off with any talk of equality. Men and women are different and both have seperate struggles to overcome.

[Christian McQueen]

(07-01-2014 11:02 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

I don't understand why guys can't do both.

Fuck a lot of girls and then settle down.

And then, when you're older and your kids are grown, fuck some more hot bishes on the side.

As long as you take care of your family, and don't flaunt it in front of the girl you chose amongst many others who (hopefully) did a good job raising your kids and treating you well, your sex life is your business and yours alone in my opinion.

Yes its a double standard. Men die earlier too and die in all the wars.

Whenever anyone starts with equality between the sexes I tune out. Fuck off with any talk of equality. Men and women are different and both have seperate struggles to overcome.

The Mistress Method

[Nomad77]

I don't a have problem with fucking a lot of girls as long as the fucking is for fucking and not because you hate them and just trying to fuck them over. Understand the difference?

Men and women are different and are not equal but that does not mean they should not be treated with respect. I have a great deal of respect and admiration for women. Maybe it's because I have never really been fucked over by a woman. But I was taught to treat people like you would like to be treated and it doesn't matter if they are men or women.

[soup]

(07-01-2014 11:07 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 11:02 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

I don't understand why guys can't do both.

Fuck a lot of girls and then settle down.

And then, when you're older and your kids are grown, fuck some more hot bishes on the side.

As long as you take care of your family, and don't flaunt it in front of the girl you chose amongst many others who (hopefully) did a good job raising your kids and treating you well, your sex life is your business and yours alone in my opinion.

Yes its a double standard. Men die earlier too and die in all the wars.

Whenever anyone starts with equality between the sexes I tune out. Fuck off with any talk of equality. Men and women are different and both have seperate struggles to overcome.

The Mistress Method

This is what they do in Italy and South America. I think it's the only possible way to get best of both worlds.

[Nomad77]

This is pretty much what my game is about. Creating a LTR with a great woman while having some fun on the side.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(07-01-2014 11:11 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I don't a have problem with fucking a lot of girls as long as the fucking is for fucking and not because you hate them and just trying to fuck them over. Understand the difference?

Men and women are different and are not equal but that does not mean they should not be treated with respect. I have a great deal of respect and admiration for women. Maybe it's because I have never really been fucked over by a woman. But I was taught to treat people like you would like to be treated and it doesn't matter if they are men or women.

I don't know too many guys around here who fuck girls because they "hate them" and are "just trying to fuck them over". That is just a feminist talking point.

Women, like all human beings, should be treated with decency. But that does not mean they are worthy of "respect and admiration". Most of them are not particularly worthy of either.