Ok just left Kiev a few days ago and since I was there for a month and a half+ off and on I thought I’d give a quick summary of how I ended up:
* All in all did ok but not that great. Finished +3 (all late 20s low 7-somethings) but it took a lot of work and right now I sure don't feel like I got decent enough results and just had to work too hard for what I got (sound familiar?
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* one of the biggest issues I had (as highlighted by me and guys like Lika and Travolta in this thread) was that night game was just not all that great in August and early September in Kiev. Students were gone + the war situation seemed to put a damper on girls going out. Plus (as we all found out) lots of girls head to Odessa in late Summer.
* I got ~25 numbers in my phone from girls I met in Kiev. Of the three girls I smashed, got a 1st date bang from a 7+ I day gamed the first weekend, and 2 internet bangs from late 20s what I would call 'busted' Ukrainian girls. Not top tier by any stretch but low 7s girls who had seen better days is how I'd describe them. Not really what I came looking for!
* I'd say I was about 1 for 50 re day game. Did a lot of approaches early on (say 2-3 per day) but then slowed down. Need to do a lot of work there. Did manage 2 instadates, one with a solid 8, but both didn't work out.
* due to the lack of nightlife and day game success I ended up concentrating my efforts on internet game, with mixed results. Both of my internet girls had clearly seen better days and put me on a bit of a long game run before I smashed them. Also messed around with one other internet date one night but dropped her, and had a near miss with another internet girl who got too drunk and passed out at my place while we were messing around.
* going back to my night game dilemma, in retrospect it sucks not having those ‘big nights’ where anything can happen and you get an SNL, makeouts, several #s etc. that you can parlay into big rewards either that night or later on. Instead, nights out ended up being dead and huge time sucks (inevitably I drank too much and didn't feel like gaming/going out the next day), even after sometimes going to 4-5 places. That situation really hurt my mojo and was incredibly frustrating, so much so that I eventually just gave up on night game.
* grinding away online with internet chicks gets old and even when you bang it’s not that rewarding of a feeling for me, for better or worse. Smashing girls from nightgame and daygame gives me a much bigger sense of accomplishment. In particular, the rush and sense of adventure from a big night out (and, I assume, instadate lays) just can’t be beat. I missed out on that in Kiev.
* worst of all and much to my chagrin, there were no “wow” or top-tier girls for me, despite a decent effort with these types of girls. This is my biggest disappointment. I got numbers off 8 girls who were high 7s or 8+s, mostly from day gaming, where I thought I had a decent shot but couldn’t convert. Of those, 2 didn’t respond, 1 was a first date and out (she left town, still in touch, possible long game candidate), another flaked and then went awol, two of 'em I had 3 dates without a kiss so I bailed out as it seemed like a waste of time, 1 was responsive but left for Spain for a few months to learn Spanish and the last one (an 8.5 with huge hooters I instadated) went out with me 2x then faded away.
So basically I came to Ukraine to date & smash high 7s and 8+s or even roll the dice & find a baby mama (!) but ended up just getting some internet scraps here and there along with one nice little day game score. Also had a close near bang and some makeouts with 2 other girls, and have 2 ‘long game’ candidates who were from out of town that I need to follow up on. But I sure didn’t tear it up with the gorgeous girls of Kiev suffice it to say. I saw a ton of top-tier talent around town though, real bummer I couldn't bag even just one of them.
Anyway, nobody ever said game was easy, but with the lack of night game it sure didn’t feel that ‘fun’ most of the time, more like a grind wearing down opponents day by day. But I do feel that my day game got a little better on the whole and that I can build on that in the future. Just gotta keep on truckin' i guess.