Quote: (04-14-2014 02:39 AM)SDGuerro Wrote:
I agree with avoiding first by using situational awareness. I train bjj and love it; sure id use it if I got in a fight but I'd try not to. A black belt I know recently was sucker punched at a bar; fight went to the ground and the black belt choked him out with a triangle choke but before he could get up he got stomped out by 4 guys and now his head is the size of a basketball...he's OK but I agree you don't want to be on the ground in a real street fight unless you need to be or have some solid back up and more of it than your adversary. This guy could take most people I know one on one stand up or on the ground and he got messed up by some drunk punks that didn't train in any martial arts. Avoid fights when possible and end them quickly when you can't.
Yes, that is the very real and very common result of a street fight that goes to the ground.
For that reason, I think BJJ is actually approaching McDojo territory if they actually try to claim - as many do - that BJJ is realistic street self defense. For self defense, you should learn enough grappling to avoid the ground, but do everything to keep it standing.
Of course, the fact that UFC is now the only show in town in MMA, might have contributed to this idea of ground fighting, since the rules in the UFC disallow stomps, soccer kicks and knees to a grounded opponent. Totally unrealistic.
On the other hand, back when PRIDE FC, was around, you could first hand see what happened once your takedown failed and Wanderlei Silva kicked your head off while you were on the ground. For that reason, takedowns were a lot more calculated and ground battles much more intense.
I'd rather be like Mirko Crocop with excellent takedown defense, but focusing on standup or do like Fedor, keep it standing and if you engage the ground, do it with vicious and quick ground and pound.
Video example for those who didn't follow PRIDE: