If an opportunity to change the culture we live in occurred, would you take it?
03-30-2014, 05:12 PM
The real failing of character and of masculinity consists, above all, in succumbing to a state of panicked fear of the future, which leads a man to close his eyes and cower before the rich and varied realities of the present, while longing futilely for a glorified past that has never existed. That is what I see in scorpion's post earlier in the thread.
First, I don't know what world it is in which nebulous "players" live in a state of supposed sexual utopia (or dystopia, according to scorpion), gaming "tons" of nameless and faceless "sluts" and blithely "chasing orgasms" -- but it's definitely not anything resembling the world we actually live in.
As anyone who has paid the least attention to this forum can see, the pursuit of erotic success even by those few men who devote serious time and resources to it (always a tiny minority of men -- this can never be forgotten) -- is a fraught and demanding endeavor whose results are uncertain at best. Even the most accomplished players on this board fail far more often than they succeed, and even their successes are often fleeting.
Now as before, there exist a small number of "naturals" who effortlessly attract women and for whom the game is an easy one; in some contexts they have more opportunities now than they might have had at other times or societies, and in some far less (look at the extreme disregard in which "age inappropriate relationships" are held now, and how much more difficult and even dangerous it is for a would-be 40 year old cad to bag some 18 year old cutiepie, something that would have hardly raised an eyebrow 50 years ago).
Look at the amount of horror, outrage and hand-wringing that has been the reaction to a simple hapless hot-panted 18 year old slut like Belle Knox throwing her slightly crazed eyes, lean teenage body, and invitingly meaty ass into the pornographic fray. Hardly the reaction of men who live the mythical life of debauched sexual satiety.
Equally deluded is an idea of the past in which men lived in an unspecified abstract state of "traditional masculinity" and women were obedient wives and mothers. That past has never existed -- not even the most draconian repression of extreme Islamic societies like Saudi Arabia has been able to achieve anything remotely like it. The reason for this is simple: the basic nature of women, and of men's relation to them, has never changed.
The truth is that men have always been fools and white-knights when it comes to women; and women have always been whores and sluts if they could get away with it, which was usually not too hard. There have always and in every society been endless infidelities, births outside of wedlock and from fathers other than the husband; the thing that has perhaps characterized some periods in the past is a certain discretion that enabled the upper classes to helpfully sweep such things under the rug. But that does not mean that they did not go on at all times.
Women in their sexual prime (and often well past it) have always been amoral and sexually rapacious creatures whose nature was completely misunderstood by the great majority of men. The main problem with feminism is not that it has changed the nature of women -- it has not; you might as well tell the tiger to change his stripes. The problem is that it has given men a new and different way to be deluded about what women are, in addition to all the old ways which remain fully in effect.
Further, the men on this forum who long to have lived in a period such as the 1950s do not even understand their own nature and personality. That was a much harder time that required discipline, action, and the willingness to grit your teeth and get with the program. The truth is that most guys who post here, myself included, are talkers -- we like to talk at length and at leisure and it easy to lose sight of the simple fact that this is a luxury and one which most periods do not allow, or only allow a very few lucky men.
I think that most of us if we did live in the 1950s would not in fact have the dreaded requisite white picket fence and "Leave it to Beaver" wife and children; instead we would mostly be city dwellers, beatniks, and street philosopher types who would sit at the end of the bar whining about the "stifling conformity" all around us -- whining in much the same tone and way as we do about the current period, but with a different kind of edge in our voices because in a harder age, the consequences of not taking care of your shit are quite a bit more serious. That is how it would be. White picket fence types, for better or worse, usually do not post on internet forums to whine about the iniquities of whatever time period they happen to live in.
scorpion concludes his post with the mention of the usual dreadful bugaboo of those "quiet and lonely moments" in which the mythical player is supposed to awaken from his utopian/dystopian sexual stupor and realize the only thing there apparently ever is to realize, namely "the thought of how meaningless it all is".
This portent of "meaninglessness" and the implied promise of "meaning" is every idelogue's stock-in-trade, right or left. And it involves a terrible irony -- because it is the ideologue himself who, while promising to deliver some unspecified meaning and holding out this promise as a check to be cashed, actually takes away from the interest, variety, and richness that could make life meaningful. There is a dreadful deadness and vacuity in the way words like "orgasm", "sluts" or "fuck" are thrown around in that post; they are uttered without the least interest or relish, because the only thing that animates the ideologue is his ideology.
It is easy to be seduced by the ideologue's thin and single-minded fervor, and not realize that in his text, life itself has already been betrayed and evacuated; and further, that he cannot cash the check he has written.
The greatest manly virtue of all is courage -- the courage to live your life fully, without that fear of the future that causes a man to lose the world in seeking the false comfort of this or that ideology. It is a man who has lost the world in this way who is in real danger of believing in the childish idea of "meaninglessness" in those "quiet and lonely moments"; and it matters not if that man has been lucky enough to fuck some dozens of delicious wenches or has contented himself with only one "traditional" harridan. "Meaning" is not something that can be delivered by thin ideas like "traditional masculinity" or (on the other end of the spectrum) "saving the environment", or whatever other vacuous slogans we are accosted by. Life can be found meaningful if it is lived by a man who is willing to think and feel, and to be humble and patient in the face of the endless interest and variety of reality.
same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...