[All or Nothing]

(02-27-2014 09:50 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

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(02-28-2014 06:19 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

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Thank you for dropping all of this knowledge. I did not know most of this information before your posts.

I will say, it is a great irony that has existed throughout history that for all the hate that has existed between the Christians, the Jews and the Muslims, they have always needed each other in order to thrive as a group.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(02-28-2014 03:33 PM)birdie num num Wrote:  

Are there any other cases of US citizens serving in a foreign military and then later entering the government?

It's legal for a US citizen to fight in a foreign war unless you're fighting against America.

What you're alluding to though applies to US soldiers. It's illegal for an active member of the US armed forces to participate in a foreign war.

There's actually an interesting story about an Egyptian-American US citizen - Ali Mohamed - who is one of the most alpha male characters I've ever read about.

This dude was a badass double (maybe triple) agent who worked for the CIA, FBI, and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad while also a member of the US Army (Green Berets). He illegally fought in foreign wars in Afghanistan against the Russians, smuggled Bin Laden through various places. He was like 6'2, 200 pounds, skilled in various martial arts, spoke Hebrew, Arabic, English, French, etc.

To this day, no one knows exactly where his allegiances lied, except to himself obviously. He was invincible during his time because governments needed him more than he needed them.

His story is worth learning about.

Video: http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/29/t...r_lance_on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mohamed

[Saga]

(02-28-2014 06:30 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

It's legal for a US citizen to fight in a foreign war unless you're fighting against America.

Aside from a few exceptions it's illegal for a US citizen to even serve in a foreign military. The American volunteers of the Spanish Civil War only escaped prosecution in the US because the FDR administration instructed the Department of Justice to leave them alone...and a lot of them went on to serve the US during WWII so no one was going to drag them into court afterwards.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(02-28-2014 06:41 PM)Saga Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 06:30 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

It's legal for a US citizen to fight in a foreign war unless you're fighting against America.

Aside from a few exceptions it's illegal for a US citizen to even serve in a foreign military. The American volunteers of the Spanish Civil War only escaped prosecution because the FDR administration instructed the Department of Justice to leave them alone...and a lot of them went on to serve the US during WWII so no one was going to drag them into court afterwards.

US citizens - even those only with American citizenship - are allowed to fight in foreign armies, with only few exceptions.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/20...try_s_army

Many American citizens with dual citizenship - including people I know personally - fulfill their obligations to their other country of citizenship which often includes military service. South Korea, Russia, Cyprus, Turkey, and host of other countries have military service requirements for their citizens.

I actually know a US citizen personally who legally fought in a war in Africa for a country he wasn't a citizen of.

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According to the U.S. code, any citizen who "enlists or enters himself, or hires or retains another to enlist or enter himself, or to go beyond the jurisdiction of the United States with intent to be enlisted or entered in the service of any foreign prince, state, colony, district, or people as a soldier or as a marine or seaman ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." But a court ruling from 1896 involving U.S. citizens who fought with Cuban revolutionaries against Spanish colonial rule interpreted this to mean that it was only illegal for citizens to be recruited for a foreign army in the United States, not to simply fight in one. (Note to Libya's National Transitional Council: It probably wouldn't be wise to set up a recruiting station on the UCLA campus in hopes of attracting more fighters.)

[Teutatis]

Hencredible, thank you for the well thought out break down of the geopolitical state of affairs on the region and your opinion on this issue, and uzisuicide, drugs are bad, just say no.

[Saga]

(02-28-2014 06:48 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Many American citizens with dual citizenship - including people I know personally - fulfill their obligations to their other country of citizenship which often includes military service. South Korea, Russia, Cyprus, Turkey, and host of other countries have military service requirements for their citizens.

Looking at the Dept of State website...it seems I stand corrected. They must have changed it sometime after WWII.

[Feisbook Control]

(02-28-2014 02:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Technically, Jews have the mark of sin upon them because they rejected Christ.

But I will side with Jews over Muslims in 99% of cases. Islam is the most violent religion on the planet, both historically and presently, so I don't fault Israel for using violence to defend their borders. They have to, because they live next to Muslims.

I would recommend to any anti-Jewish man to read up on their Islamic history and get back to me.

Conquest of the former Christian Syria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmuk

Conquest of Eygpt and Sack of Alexandria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Egypt

Fall of Constantinople (present day Istanbul):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople

My father's side of my family comes from present-day Lebanon/Syria (the boarders have changed so much in the last 100 years so basically it's the same region), and everyone in my family tells me they came to escape religious persecution, as Christians, from Muslims.

Muslims have only grown in power since then, and my great-grandfather was wise to get out of that snakepit. It has been nothing but constant warfare in Syria from power-hungry Muslims ever since.

To this day, religious persecution of Christians in the middle east continues unabated.

Coptic Christians killed 'execution style' in Libya

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/co.../36039.htm

I agree entirely. It's bizarre to me how people can support Muslims over Jews/Israel. Islam is the single largest anti-civilisational force on the planet right now, and has been ever since it came into existence.

Obviously, Israel has all sorts of blood on its hands. Find me a country that doesn't though. The U.S. is knee deep in blood. So is the U.K. So is France. You know why I support them though? Because they're Western, because they're pro-civilisation.

List of Muslim Nobel Prize Winners

List of Nobel Prizes by Country

If we take out the BS/political Prizes for Literature or Peace, the entire Muslim population of 1.6 billion people has managed a grand total of two Nobel prizes. By comparison, the Faroe Islands with fewer than 50,000 people has managed one! Lithuania (3,000,000) and Luxembourg (500,000) have had two each! Look at Switzerland (8,000,000). Taking out the Peace and Literature prizes, they still have 20. Even Taiwan (23,000,000) has managed a Nobel Prize!

How about Israel? Eight million people, and even taking out Peace and Literature, they still have eight prizes (and then look at the list of Jewish Nobel Laureates).

So all of those guys compared to 1.6 billion people who between them would struggle to complete a basic level sudoku puzzle? 8 million people/8 prizes is one prize per million people. 1.6 billion people/2 prizes is one prize per eight hundred million people. (The population of Europe is only 739,000. Yet they've had a combined list of hundreds of Nobel Laureates.) I'm going to pick Israel over Palestine (and every other Muslim nation) every single time. Every single time, without hesitation. You could completely eliminate every single Jew in the Middle East and all that would do would be to collectively halve the IQ of the region. It would be a great loss to humanity and civilisation.

[kerouac]

So far, what I'm getting from the Israeli supporters in regards to why people should support Israel over Palestine (or, even more broadly, Muslims) is because Jews are simply better? Since Jews achieve more, we should all support the Zionist dream? Is it not a dream to bring together Jews of all ethnicities to a land where the culture is basically a formulation of what ought to be Jewish (based on the Zionist pioneers' philosophies)? Where people speak modern Hebrew instead of Yiddish, Russian, Arabic, Persian, or Ethiopian?

I'm just trying to figure this out, because as an American, I wonder why the U.S. has any interest in supporting another dream (just like we support feminism today)? Aren't Feminism and Zionism of the same branch of thought (ie. illusory)? I can understand why Jews in America have some sort of bond to Israel, but why should anyone else?

[Samseau]

(02-28-2014 08:13 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

So far, what I'm getting from the Israeli supporters in regards to why people should support Israel over Palestine (or, even more broadly, Muslims) is because Jews are simply better? Since Jews achieve more, we should all support the Zionist dream? Is it not a dream to bring together Jews of all ethnicities to a land where the culture is basically a formulation of what ought to be Jewish (based on the Zionist pioneers' philosophies)? Where people speak modern Hebrew instead of Yiddish, Russian, Arabic, Persian, or Ethiopian?

I'm just trying to figure this out, because as an American, I wonder why the U.S. has any interest in supporting another dream (just like we support feminism today)? Aren't Feminism and Zionism of the same branch of thought (ie. illusory)? I can understand why Jews in America have some sort of bond to Israel, but why should anyone else?

The gist of my argument is, the Jews are far lesser of two evils. Hell, I don't really find Jews all that evil or problematic. They are outnumbered 1,000 to 1.

[kosko]

Radical Zionism is just as dangerous as radical Islam. Disguising the two extremes is futile, as both are cancers to both traditional aspects of their respective faiths. Judaism isn't the problem in Israel, it's radical Zionism and the right-wing attached to it. Calling the Palestinian people radicals for fitting for their very survival is unfair also. There isn't favorites in this issue only the bad parts from both sides that need to be squashed. Still though, the Palestinian people get the short end of the stick in the conflict...

That is the reality.

Israel's greatest enemy is itself. If it never flushes it's radical elements that run the all the power channels in the nation it will eventually collapse. No reactionary States have ever survived in history as they become to bogged down and chaotic to maintain and continue.

[big poppa]

(02-28-2014 08:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(02-28-2014 08:13 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

So far, what I'm getting from the Israeli supporters in regards to why people should support Israel over Palestine (or, even more broadly, Muslims) is because Jews are simply better? Since Jews achieve more, we should all support the Zionist dream? Is it not a dream to bring together Jews of all ethnicities to a land where the culture is basically a formulation of what ought to be Jewish (based on the Zionist pioneers' philosophies)? Where people speak modern Hebrew instead of Yiddish, Russian, Arabic, Persian, or Ethiopian?

I'm just trying to figure this out, because as an American, I wonder why the U.S. has any interest in supporting another dream (just like we support feminism today)? Aren't Feminism and Zionism of the same branch of thought (ie. illusory)? I can understand why Jews in America have some sort of bond to Israel, but why should anyone else?

The gist of my argument is, the Jews are far lesser of two evils. Hell, I don't really find Jews all that evil or problematic. They are outnumbered 1,000 to 1.

Yet they are in charge of something like 95% of media corporations and control a huge amount of wealth.

Judaism is a bigger threat to Western civilisation than Muslims are I think.

[Courage Reborn]

^ 95%?

hmm, I'm not in charge of any that. Better go ask for my percentage.

/sarcasm off. We aren't a monolithic block.


I am curious though why our elites are more threatening to you than others?

[scorpion]

(02-28-2014 11:35 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

^ 95%?

hmm, I'm not in charge of any that. Better go ask for my percentage.

/sarcasm off. We aren't a monolithic block.


I am curious though why our elites are more threatening to you than others?

95% is actually pretty close...

[Agent 47]

6 Corporations control 90%+ of our media.

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-c...ica-2012-6

Holy shit, I did not know there were that many Jews in power.

Courage, I am an American and I am very worried about the power that this Empire has.

[NY Digital]

Media owns the American people.

Jews literally own the Media.

Think about that.

[Hencredible Casanova]

The thing about the media, which is true, isn't some sinister plot as some often suggest but a natural result compelled by the historical need for survival. It's important to look at the history of Jews in its totality. Whenever Jewish people lacked institutional power in the places they lived, guess who eventually became public enemy no. 1?

Look up corporate-owned newspaper articles in places where Jewish people lived before they had the institutional power to control
them. They are almost indistinguishable from the inflammatory and prejudiced "news" sources you find casually from individuals on the internet today.

Anti-semitism is a unique phenomenon that has maintained currency for centuries. It's a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for the Jewish people.

If Jewish people are weak, people still hate on them.

If they are strong, people still hate on them.

If Israel disintegrates, people are happy.

If Israel survives, people are unhappy.

It's just how it is unfortunately. It's hard for me to think of another group that operates under a fundamental existential threat like that all over the world. History has shown that anti-semitism can take an ugly turn at the drop of a dime, hence the argument for a homeland like Israel. Even if Europe and the US is a safer place for Jews now, that doesn't mean that will always be the case.

I don't think that if the Israel-Palestine conflict was solved today that Israel would suddenly be embraced by the rest of the world.

And I said in an earlier post, Israel feels impermanent to me in its current state and that it will probably change in its future. I didn't say that with the hope that it doesn't survive, but that I sensed people there being fatigued by the status quo as well as the enormous pressure put on them to change the country from a Jewish state to a democratic and secular one (it already is a combination of all those things actually), which comes from the inside as well as the outside.

[scorpion]

Even if you throw out the idea that Jews have some kind of self-serving agenda in mind through their control of the media, the simple fact that their domination is so pervasive in this area (not to mention their strong presence in government, academia and banking/finance) is at the very least disturbing simply by virtue of how out of proportion it is compared to their actual population numbers.

This is an ethnic group that comprises about 2% of the population of the U.S., and yet which exercises a totally outsized influence on the culture through its dominance of media, academia, government and banking.

As a thought experiment, imagine if Japan had a minority population of Black Muslims that comprised 2% of its population, yet which controlled all major Japanese news outlets, film studios, television stations, dominated Japanese academia, had an enormous presence in government through appointments and lobbying, and which ran most Japanese banks.

You would have an incredibly small minority of Black Muslims essentially controlling Japanese culture. A people totally disconnected from the ethnic majority culturally, racially and historically would be in de facto control of Japanese society.

Wouldn't that, at the very least, be extremely fucking weird?

And yet that's basically what's going on in the U.S.

[8ball]

(03-01-2014 12:43 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Even if you throw out the idea that Jews have some kind of self-serving agenda in mind through their control of the media, the simple fact that their domination is so pervasive in this area (not to mention their strong presence in government, academia and banking/finance) is at the very least disturbing simply by virtue of how out of proportion it is compared to their actual population numbers.

This is an ethnic group that comprises about 2% of the population of the U.S., and yet which exercises a totally outsized influence on the culture through its dominance of media, academia, government and banking.

As a thought experiment, imagine if Japan had a minority population of Black Muslims that comprised 2% of its population, yet which controlled all major Japanese news outlets, film studios, television stations, dominated Japanese academia, had an enormous presence in government through appointments and lobbying, and which ran most Japanese banks.

You would have an incredibly small minority of Black Muslims essentially controlling Japanese culture. A people totally disconnected from the ethnic majority culturally, racially and historically would be in de facto control of Japanese society.

Wouldn't that, at the very least, be extremely fucking weird?

And yet that's basically what's going on in the U.S.

And they are to blame for being good at something? Asking why there are so many jews in the media is the same as asking why are are so many italians in the restaurant industry or blacks in the NBA. The hollywood studio system was founded by Jews from the east coast moving down to socal, so they didn't "take over" the media. You can't take over something you have created. Read the history of hollywood before you make baseless accusations.

Instead of asking why there are so many jews in positions of power, why don't you ask yourself what is it about that culture that produces so many successful people. Mark Zuckerberg, Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, Michael Dell did not become billionaires because of some ridiculous zionist plan.

curious:
I wonder how many redirects from storm-front this thread got.

[TheSlayer]

(03-01-2014 01:05 PM)8ball Wrote:  

blacks in the NBA.

Funny you should mention the NBA. I found out recently that 80% of the teams in the NBA are owned by Jews. Not taking a side either way in this debate but I found it quite interesting. Also, 3 of the 4 commissioners of pro-sports in North America (NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL) are Jews.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(03-01-2014 01:05 PM)8ball Wrote:  

Asking why there are so many jews in the media is the same as asking why are are so many italians in the restaurant industry or blacks in the NBA.

That's what I think too. Just like Lebron James is a great basketball player, often times successful Jewish people are simultaneously exceptionally talented at what they do. They just happen to be Jewish like many basketball players happen to be black.

Personally, I think many Jews simply happen to be gifted and very focused, at least the ones I know personally. They have a great culture inspired by the Talmud (that is more challenging than a legal education) which lends itself to success, especially in a country like the US where hard work and ambition is rewarded. I also think the fact that most Jews are white, immigrated to the US from Europe, have a nomadic history and a propensity to take risks are all helpful inputs when it comes to succeeding at the highest levels in the West. And it wasn't like Jews were given breaks when they first arrived in the US. Ivy League schools, banks, law firms specifically wouldn't hire Jews. Many top investment banks and law firms today were created by Jews simply because they couldn't get a job at such places that were owned by Wasps.

In fact, extracurricular activities as an additional basis for college admissions was initially created to keep Jews out of competitive schools. They were rapidly exceeding the academic standards for admissions, but as relatively poor immigrants when they first arrived from Europe, their kids were unlikely to engage in socially active leadership activities like Waspy families, for example, so schools created an extra hurdle for getting in to keep Jewish numbers down.

Many started out in New York garment factories but their culture inspired their kids to strive for success in the most demanding professions. It's an embodiment of what Floyd Mayweather always says: hard work and dedication.

I don't believe in the Jewish conspiracy theories because many individual Jews I know and know of that are successful have varying opinions about topics like Israel (just like anyone else), many of whom are even against the concept or are simply indifferent towards it.

Hell, I've educated many Jews personally about Israel.

Pretty much cosign this article.

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Amidst all the brouhaha over CNN's firing of Rick Sanchez for his remarks about Jews in the media, an important distinction is being missed. Yes, there are many individual Jews in positions of influence in Hollywood, in network television, in sports and entertainment, and in many other areas of American public life. These individuals, who happen to be Jewish, do not act together in any kind of conspiratorial manner. There is no "Jewish control" of any of these areas -- or of the many other areas, such as medicine, law, academia, finance -- where there are large numbers of individual Jews in high positions. Many of these individuals are Jewish only in the sense that their parents or grandparents happen to be Jews. They do not live Jewish lives or support Jewish causes. They certainly do not conspire to exercise any sort of "Jewish control" over the areas in which they work.

Indeed, many individual Jews who are in positions of authority are anti-Israel and critical of Jewish values. Others simply don't care about these issues.

Whenever there are allegations of Jewish "control" over the "media," the primary examples cited are The New York Times and the Washington Post. Both were founded by families of Jewish origin. But neither has ever gone out of its way to promote Jewish causes or values. The New York Times was derelict in reporting on the Holocaust and generally opposed the establishment of Israel. It remains critical of many current Israeli policies (as does the Washington Post). Yet Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Meridiaga -- who was a runner up for the papacy -- blamed the Jewish-controlled media, particularly The New York Times, for the sex scandal that has plagued the Catholic Church.

Here is his "logic." He begins by asserting that the Vatican is anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. It follows, therefore, that "the Jews" had to get even with the Catholic Church, while at the same time deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians.

The Jews managed to do this by arranging for the media which they, of course, control to give disproportionate attention to the Vatican sex scandal.

Rodriguez compared the Jewish-controlled media with "Hitler," because they are "protagonists of what I do not hesitate to define as a persecution against the Church."

The prime media culprit is, according to Rodriguez, The Boston Globe, which has won numerous journalistic awards for its exposure of the sex scandal and cover-up. The Globe, you see, is owned by The New York Times, which is controlled by the Sulzberger family, which was Jewish in origin. Hence the Jewish conspiracy. Oh, these clever Jews!

One problem with this cockamamie theory is that the Jewish community of Boston was very close to, and admiring of, Cardinal Bernard Law, who presided over the archdiocese during the scandal. Law had built bridges between the Catholic and Jewish communities of Boston, and when the scandal was exposed by the very un-Jewish Boston Globe the Jewish community remained largely supportive of Law.

None of the leading media critics, lawyers or politicians who railed against the church was Jewish. Most were Catholic. But that didn't matter to the bigoted cardinal, who along with other classic anti-Semites believes that if there is a problem "the Jews" must be to blame for it.
As the writer James Carrol, himself a Catholic, has characterized Rodriguez's "crackpot" mindset: "When the church has a problem, here is the oldest move of all, blame the Jews."

Others too insist on conflating individual Jews, who as individuals may have influence in the media, with "Jewish control" over the media. Consider a recent column by Christopher Hitchens, who has called "for Jon Stewart and others to join me in calling for Rick Sanchez's reinstatement." Then listen to what he says: "If it then didn't happen, it would help us to understand who really pulls the strings around here." Who do you suppose he means by "who really pulls the strings?" The "Jews" who control the media? That certainly appears to be the implication. What is he suggesting? That Jews actually get together to decide who gets fired and hired? Or maybe they don't even have to get together, because they all think alike.

Hitchens knows enough individual Jews in the media to realize that "two Jews, three opinions" is a far more accurate characterization than some conspiratorial group-think by the Elders of Zion.

So let's stop all this nonsense about Jewish control over the media and praise those individual Jews who, by dint of hard work and talent, have earned their place, as individuals, in so many areas of American life. I always thought that was the American dream.

[scorpion]

I think you have to be very careful when you start making arguments that are essentially Jewish supremacist in nature, i.e. "The Jews have had such success simply because they are very intelligent and hard working."

This is flatly racist argument, and is no different than saying, "Blacks have had a lack of success simply because they are not intelligent nor hard working."

They are the same exact statement except made in reverse, once to explain away success and another to explain away failure. So if you reject one of these notions you must necessarily reject the other, and vice versa.

You can't make a racial argument like that and have it both ways. You can't say that Jews owe their success to an innate intelligence/propensity for hard work while denying that these factors affect the outcomes of other races.

[Hencredible Casanova]

Many cultures have attributes that lend to disproportionate outcomes relative to other cultures.

Nigerians (who are obviously black) have the highest - or among the highest - educational attainment rates in the US. They make up a very tiny percentage of the US black population but have outsized success rates relative to not only blacks but also white Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Am...#Education

Many of the ones I've met are extremely focused, smart, hard working and well-educated, not unlike other successful immigrant groups. You can't go to the best schools in the US and not find Nigerians there. They are also disproportionately represented in investment banking and law firms, relative to other blacks.

http://cf.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/i...le_sidebar

They are one of the groups studied in a new book coming out about the success of various ethnic groups in the US, including Jews.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Triple-Package...1594205469

[TigerMandingo]

[Quintus Curtius]

My only quarrel with Israel is its government's policies. I have nothing against any specific person or persons. I distinguish between Judaic civilization--for which I have the highest respect--and political extremist Zionism, which I revile.

But the fact remains that the US and Israeli governments work hand-in-hand to maintain a system of control and domination in the Middle East. And they enforce this control with ruthless violence.

But the days of total Israeli domination may slowly be coming to an end. People will not stay cowed and down forever. Despite all its attempts to terrorize and intimidate its neighbors, Israel is arguably weaker now than at any period in its history. Its society has serious structural flaws.

The US, for decades a reliable check-writer and bankroller of radical Zionism, will not always be able to foot the bill. Other nations in the region are starting to get their acts together. Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Egypt will not forever be weak and marginalized.

And Israel's arrogance, neurotic sense of victimhood, and disrespect for its neighbors will come back to haunt it. Part of their identity is that they enjoy living in a climate of hatred and fear. It's part of their self-image, and they do everything possible to stir up hatred and conflict among their neighbors. But nothing lasts forever.

The truth is, from what I've seen, is that the Israelis are overrated. I'm not that impressed. They're not that smart. Take away big brother America, who bankrolls them and plays host to their parasite, and what have you got?

Part of their propaganda is to try to make us believe they're special, that they're superior. They're not. They can be beaten on the battlefield. And they have been. In time, Israel will get just what it deserves.

Most Iranians, Lebanese, and Syrians I've met have been tougher, more commercially minded, and more intelligent than the few Israelis I've met.

[K Galt]

When discussing politics and Jews, one must be careful to delineate the difference between Judaism, the religion, culture and ethnic heritage and Zionism, the political State.

We must also differentiate between Orthodox Judaism based on the Torah (the Judeo part of Judeo-Christian tradition), versus the Talmudic Judaism.

One can be utterly opposed to Zionism and the STATE of Israel, and not be a racist/anti-semite.

In fact, there are many Jews themselves that oppose the State of Israel.

Judaism and Zionism are not the same thing.

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The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.

To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders.

Of course, pro-Zionists and State of Israel proponents conveniently use anti-semitism as a cover for excusing and justifying anything and everything Zion does...kind of like how the media accuses anyone of pointing out the pathologies of Black American ghetto culture is committing "racism."

As for "The Jews Own Hollywood," this is utterly true. It's incontrovertible. It has already been brazenly and proudly declared by one of their own.

Is it anti-semitism for only Goy to say "the Jews Own Hollywood?" but perfectly okay for a Jew to proclaim it himself?

But what also needs to be pointed out, is that the type of Jews that own Hollywood, are the Talmudic Jews, not the Orthodox Torah-devout faithful.

Why is this an important distinction? Because the Talmud is based on a racist ideology, that Jews are "chosen" and anything and everything they can get away with in dealings with the Goyim is allowed.

This is precisely why the Jewish Media Moguls preside over nearly all of the demeaning, mass media distributed moral filth that degrades culture and society. Porn, Gangsta Rap, Satanic and rebellious rock, iconic promotion of promiscuous and slutty Pop Stars, misandry based Tell-a-Vision shows, and all manners of interpersonal dysfunctions like feminism and homosexuality are repeatedly and overtly depicted in sitcoms, dramas and movies, all designed to profit off of the cultural degradation of the Goy. (Don't get me wrong, I'm a metal head, and I do like some old school rap artists as well, but I also recognize the subversive cultural impact these genres have.)

But these Jews would never let there own families consume there own "entertainment" products. Most famously, Maddonna, an openly proclaimed Kabbalist (a mystic/occult branch of Talmud Judaism) once told an interviewer that she would never let her own children watch her videos and listen to many of her sexual-themed songs.

This, of course, also ties in with the historical problems of anti-semitism wherever the Jews settled and created homogenous communities within other countries.

It's true that on average, the Jews are brilliant, accomplished, and artistically talented, and success always breeds jealousy and rivalry - especially when they maintain their cultural identities and don't assimilate to their host countries...

...but the real source of historical anti-semitism is based on USURY.

Christian based countries have long had a prohibition on usury. Jews are also prohibited from practicing usury...on fellow Jews.

But for the Goy? The Jews have dispensation to employ usury to profit (and virtually enslave) Goyim.

This is precisely where the caricature of Usurious Jews demanding their "pound of flesh" comes from, as depicted by Shakespeare.

Right or wrong, this is the real source for "anti-semitism."

As for US relations... one thing is all you need to understand here: AIPAC is the single most powerful lobbying group in D.C.

Unlike other people that claim the US benefits from "Selling military supplies" to Israel, this is utter bovine dung.

That particular scam is called "foreign aid," in which the Fed Gov appropriates a chunk of the budget to give tax $$ to military industrial complex corporations to give military arms, supplies and combat vehicles to Israel as "foreign aid."

Given that the US budget has been operating in the red for quite some time, this actually means D.C. borrows money that the US taxpayer is responsible to pay back (at usurious interest) to give to these corporations to "aid" Zion with military goods and services.

It's a one sided relationship, and it makes perfect sense when you look at the previously linked charts by others on this thread showing the large percentage of influential Jews in the US Government who are certainly more concerned with the State of Zion than the state of the USA.