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#26

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Quote: (12-02-2015 09:16 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

Quote: (12-02-2015 09:05 AM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

^ Jesus knows what's up. He's such a pimp he was banging Mary Magdalene on the side and still convinced millions to worship him for thousands of years

I appreciate the player community so much I have decided to make my second coming here on the RooshV Forum.

Don't forget about my prayers for an Asian unicorn.
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#27

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"I'm addicted to the chase"

Red flag?
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#28

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Thank god I've managed to avoid LTR's with women who have those red flags.

Although my ex did have the trashy TV one however it was more because it didn't require her to think rather than because of the drama.
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#29

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Info is on point.

Also be careful if you notice that she likes leopard animal print clothes (or bags) a little too much.
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#30

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Quote: (12-03-2015 11:05 PM)The Jackal Wrote:  

Info is on point.

Also be careful if you notice that she likes leopard animal print clothes (or bags) a little too much.

The classical hallmark of trashiness. I see even one item of clothing with this pattern on and my radar pings.

"As wolves among sheep we have wandered"
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#31

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Adding some red flags I've encountered enough times to finally wise up. Largely a re-hash but bears repeating.

Goes on a trip to known party location while seeing you. She will be surveying the local dick fauna. It doesn't matter if she's said and done things to indicate deeper feelings for you. Alcohol + hot guys + vacation mindset = "This won't count..."

Slutty friends. A girl I was seeing had a friend in her crew that, the first time we hung out with them, told everybody she was 'hooking up with that golf pro guy, that gym guy, that hot bartender' and allegedly her boss. My gut was spraying my brain with warning shots while she went on but I ignored it, to inevitable detriment. Birds of a feather.

Tattoos. Piercings. Doesn't matter where she has them when she has them.

When she drinks, she goes really hard. Either she can't handle alcohol, which in itself is a bad sign, or she loves the buzz and ZFG that comes with it a little bit too much. The dicks she doesn't remember don't count (AHA - Advanced Hamster Algebra).

Sex books in her bookshelf. Like how to control the PC muscles. She wants to heighten the experience if sex. Nothing wrong with that at all, but she's probably had some training prior to seeing you.

Gives you earth-shattering orgasms. Addendum to the above. As Hank said in the OP, a cardinal red flag that's exquisitely bittersweet. You love what's she's doing, but you won't be the last she'll be doing it to.

Smart/bookish. This might be a bit personal, but the biggest sluts I've met have been smart and really ambitious girls. Sex with them has been the best. Pure speculation, but smart people tend to enjoy novelty in many things...

Quote: (12-02-2015 09:16 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

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#32

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A few personal ones that I look out for:

Really enjoys nightlife.

Lives on her own in a major city.

Serial online dater.

Puts out fast and easy.

Alternatively you can use Tuth's 24 signs as a way to tell she's easy bang material and conversely not good LTR material.
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#33

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This is a great thread, could use a bump. Should print this out and hang it on the refrigerator. Girls who fall into some of these categories are fine for a night or something casual, but anything beyond that should be avoided...speaking from experience!

Awesome list though and something we should all internalize
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#34

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If she acts like she is in love with you right as she meets you it's not a good sign. Even with online dating some girls act like they are in love with you before they even meet you, I dodge most of these girls but I have found out that most of them are unstable or will put you out of their life/mind as fast as they let you in.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of these girls have Borderline Personality Disorder.

Just contrast it with the normal/healthy approach:

You meet a girl, she's neutral/receptive towards you and slowly she falls in love. Going 1000% since day 1 is usually a bad sign.

Falling in love super quickly and talking about how everyone is an asshole/out to hurt them are the 2 main red flags I watch out for.

Also I prefer a girl who I am going to disagree with more often but knows how to communicate, listen and admits when she was wrong over someone who refuses to accept responsibility for their actions.
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#35

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Number 7 is impossible nowadays
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#36

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The “ultra red flag” on number 4 is accurate too, about a girls “best friends” being people that in reality she barely knows.

That’s usually an indicator of women who form these hollow/fake friendships with people they meet out at nightclubs or bars or whatever...not usually the best place to develop solid friends and those people are so transient and quite frankly usually pretty dumb...

when I think back on all the girls that I knew who have proven to be emotionally unstable and not suitable for a LTR this seems to be a really common trend. A girl that can’t form lasting friendships and has no problem calling a group of girls she sees at the club every weekend her “best friends” probably isn’t good for seeking out a relationship.
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#37

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My Red Flags (in no particular order):
  • 1) Coloured hair (as in pink, bright red, purple, etc). Avoid these girls unless you want a false rape charge.
  • 2) Tattoos. This isn't to say the girl will be damaged goods or even particularly stupid as I've met some smart, wholesome girls who for some reason wanted to get inked up - but it certainly is trashy and is a tell for sluttiness (ie: not relationship material). Piercings too - anywhere other than ears is a bad sign.
  • 3) Talks about being raped or assaulted in the past. As a corollary, speaks badly about friends and family as this means she is in perma-victim mode. She's talking to other people like this about you.
  • 4) Smoking. Slut tell, as we all know.
  • 5) Subscribes to feminist doctrine. This isn't a deal-breaker, as most girls are just pretending to be "feminist" because they want to fit in and they can be easily dissuaded, but dealing with a hardcore Tumblr feminist who believes in crackpot ideas like gender-doesn't-exit, will kill your mood.
  • 6) Rarely if ever pays you any kind of compliment even when you pay her one. This speaks to her idea of a relationship being a battleground. She doesn't want to appear vulnerable by saying something nice to you. Very bad sign.
  • 7) Makes snide comments to you designed to hurt your feelings. These could often be shit-tests and need to be nipped in the bud, but if they start to crop up 2-3 months into the relationship, after the honeymoon period, you may have a narcissist or damaged girl on your hands.
  • 8) Doesn't say "thank you" or send a "thank you" text after a date, especially if you've paid for the date. This speaks to her level of entitlement and lack of a proper upbringing.
  • 9) Does anal on the first date and it slides in super easy.
  • 10) Typical female behaviour that can reach a tipping point: Nagging, moodiness, emotional instability.
Not exhaustive.
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#38

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3/4/5/7/9 directly above for sure.

You can easily find college girls with < 10 bangs.

These days, color hair and a 2-3 tattoos doesn't mean anything anymore unless it's a really bad, weird color. 9 Tattoos are a diff story, yep.
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#39

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Well... Im not toó sure about all these points.

The biggest slut i know (female friend from high school) hasnt any tattoo, is very respectable and emphatic. Also she has normal hair (never painted it), doesnt like partying toó much but she is fucking each month two or there new dudes. Last saturday we were fucking and previously we were talking about our current partners.
On the other hand, i know a single mom that is one of the sweeties girls ive met.
Im not saying i want to LTR her But she has really nice qualities i would like in any other girl, or at least Many girls lack.
She has even 3 small tattoos. In my job office, the biggest slut is the receptionist. No tats, no piercings, educated, good relationships with parents and siblings, etc... And the girls that Have tattoos are girls that -im sure- got them due to insecurity, to try get more attention, to show they are not boring, etc... Not precisely slutty attitude.
What i try to say it's that all is relative and doing statements it's not as easy as it could seem. Someone needs to understand the context completely.
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#40

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Quote: (03-19-2019 08:34 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

Well... Im not toó sure about all these points.

The biggest slut i know (female friend from high school) hasnt any tattoo, is very respectable and emphatic. Also she has normal hair (never painted it), doesnt like partying toó much but she is fucking each month two or there new dudes. Last saturday we were fucking and previously we were talking about our current partners.
On the other hand, i know a single mom that is one of the sweeties girls ive met.
Im not saying i want to LTR her But she has really nice qualities i would like in any other girl, or at least Many girls lack.
She has even 3 small tattoos. In my job office, the biggest slut is the receptionist. No tats, no piercings, educated, good relationships with parents and siblings, etc... And the girls that Have tattoos are girls that -im sure- got them due to insecurity, to try get more attention, to show they are not boring, etc... Not precisely slutty attitude.
What i try to say it's that all is relative and doing statements it's not as easy as it could seem. Someone needs to understand the context completely.

I think the concept of red flags is not that these are rules written in stone and that it doesn’t exist any exceptions to these rules. Because then it would probably be called deal breakers, right?

The point is that these are just very good indicators that the girls are actually not of that high quality and even if you are referring to some anecdotal evidence, I think most guys here would say that it very much tends to be the case and that these red flags are almost always the case.

I’ve also been with a very good girl who happened to have a tattoo on her leg, but I’m not naive to think that it’s not generally a very bad sign if a girl has a tattoo there.
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#41

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^^^
Totally agreed NMMSB. I got the idea better.

It's red flag and not deal-breaker. And yes, when I See them, i See the alert signal as well.
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#42

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I’ll add one:
Works in the military, law enforcement, or any other traditionally male dominated work environment. She will be surrounded by cock and attention all day, and immersed in a easy lay culture. Lady cops, for example, fall into two categories for the most part: lesbians and sluts (with some overlap at times)
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#43

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Quote: (11-30-2015 08:01 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

One of the biggest pitfalls I observe - guy learns a little bit of game and finally ends up banging a decent looking chick. As she's now one of the hottest girls he's ever banged, he makes the mistake of trying to lock her down and wife her up.

While I've said this before on many occasions, you can't make a hoe into a housewife. Some women are simply not relationship material.

Here are some red flags to watch out for...

1. She has a 'career' in the service industry. Waitresses and bartenders get hit on a lot. They understand the connection between sex, money, and power. They also tend to have a large social network. Service industry workers are experts at flirting to get what they want, and they have a lot of opportunity for cock. Service industry 'careers' are reserved for hot chicks who don't want to work all that much, and can survive off taking money from guys they flirt with.

Ultra red flag: She's a stripper. Strippers are experts in extracting cold, hard cash from men. They can convince even the most bona fide plunderer of poon of their undying love an affection. They also are exposed to hundreds of cocks in a week. There's no sex in the champaign room? Ha!

I've hooked up with strippers but also gotten played by them. Avoid seriously dating a girl who is, or has ever been, a stripper (though they make fantastic friends / NSA booty calls).

2. She's divorced. I'm divorced so I know this is hypocritical, but I've found that divorced women simply carry too much baggage. This isn't a huge red flag like some of the others, but tread cautiously. Divorced women tend to start by slutting it up and then looking for another dude to marry. Baggage and drama follow.

Having lived with another dude (or multiple other dudes) is also a bad sign.

Ultra red flag: She has kids. Just... no. Avoid single mothers. No exceptions.

3. She's over 32 years old and has never been married. There are exceptions to this. However, I've found that there's usually a reason some women are 32 years old and have never been married. Again, not the biggest red flag in the world, but proceed cautiously. It usually means she has ridden the cock carousel for too long.

4. She has few or no female friends. There are a reason other females hate this women. She probably fucked their boyfriends or is just generally terrible to be around. Women who are hated by other women tend to be bad news.

Ultra red flag: She's known all her "best friends" for less than a year. Crazy women tend not to have any friends, and then latch onto people they just met. Normal women will have friends from grade school, college, work, adulthood, etc. Often these friendships will be 10 - 20 years. Crazy women associate only with people they've only known for like a month, and then try and act like they're SO CLOSE with people they hardly even know.

Ultra red flag: She has a bunch of male friends. Newsflash - she's hooked up with most of them. The ones she hasn't hooked up with are orbiters. Either way, she's either an attention whore, or just a whore. If a bunch of dudes are constantly following her around, that's a major red flag.

5. She anthropomorphizes her pets. When a woman has an unhealthy relationship with her dog or cat, she's got issues. I've been on too many dates where the girl was like "I can't wait for you to meet my dog! I'll bet you'll just love each other! You don't mind if he sleeps in the bed with us, right? I mean, he's like a big person!"

Run Forrest, run.

6. She's a 'model'. These are women who know that their looks get them attention. Particularly those who are "Facebook" or "Instagram" models. They're vain, narcissistic, and there are too many beta males who will indulge their every whim. And they know this.

7. She's had more than 10 bangs. This is a hard one. If you ask a girl how many bangs she's had, you've lost the frame, plus she's only going to lie about it anyway. ("I've only had 4 bangs, not counting the 5 guys in Cancun, all the guys I did studying abroad, the football team in high school, that professional athlete, the guy I met in Vegas, and Hank Moody whenever we're both drunk. None of that counts.")

When you bang her you'll know whether she's been around the block once or twice. The way she looks you in the eye, slowly undoes your belt, sucks the skin off your cock, and then makes sure to swallow every bit of man juice you have. Yeah... let's just say she was taught right. And next month, well, someone else will be getting that same treatment.

Try and stick to girls with less bangs and then train them.

8. She's always busy at night and on the weekends.

[We wake up in my bed]
"Ah fuck, Hank, I gotta make a call..."
"Keep it down, I'm trying to sleep..."
"Hey, Steve? It's me, Ashley. I got your texts. Oh yeah, everything is fine. I just fell asleep at my sister's house last night. I'll be home in about an hour. See you then, sweetie."

Women who are constantly busy on the weekends or at night are fucking other dudes. They'll say that they were having drinks with the girls, hanging out with their sister, saving stray kittens, or whatever. If a woman is constantly busy on nights and weekends, it's because she's fucking other dudes.

9. Her phone is always turned upside down. She doesn't want you seeing her text messages from all the other dudes she's banging, or are trying to bang her. If she's extremely guarded about her phone, it's because she's banging other dudes.

10. She has blue / green / pink hair. Girls who dye their hair stupid colors desperately crave attention. Not all of them are "feminists", but simply attention whores.

pretty much summarised everything.
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#44

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Quote: (03-20-2019 01:10 PM)CDRhodes Wrote:  

I’ll add one:
Works in the military, law enforcement, or any other traditionally male dominated work environment. She will be surrounded by cock and attention all day, and immersed in a easy lay culture. Lady cops, for example, fall into two categories for the most part: lesbians and sluts (with some overlap at times)

same for girls into martial arts
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#45

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Quote: (04-07-2019 07:46 AM)luigi Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2019 01:10 PM)CDRhodes Wrote:  

I’ll add one:
Works in the military, law enforcement, or any other traditionally male dominated work environment. She will be surrounded by cock and attention all day, and immersed in a easy lay culture. Lady cops, for example, fall into two categories for the most part: lesbians and sluts (with some overlap at times)

same for girls into martial arts

Usually when a girl is into masculine hobbies or careers, it is correlated with her having more male hormones such as testosterone. That's like a guy becoming nurse or joining a female dominated industry. Most likely that guy is going to be beta male.

Traditionally feminine woman would not enter such world. I wouldn't necessarily call it a red flag, but possibly a yellow flag. Just watch out for other signs of red flag.

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
- Heat

"That's the difference between you and me. You wanna lose small, I wanna win big."
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