Wholly shit. I cannot believe this thread is still going.
#vegancat
Off to get a can of soy juice!
#vegancat
Off to get a can of soy juice!
Quote: (04-25-2019 01:55 PM)porscheguy Wrote:
Quote: (04-24-2019 10:20 PM)Solitaire Wrote:General Tso’s chicken from a Chinese buffet is your example of why meat is bad?
I remember the last time I ate meat, was a big pile of general tsao chicken (or wtf it's called) at the Chinese buffet. Was like a two pound brick in my stomach. I've never felt that bad ever again.
So you’ve got chopped up, boneless chicken. It’s coated in a heavy, flour based batter. Then it’s deep fried in vegetable oil. Then it’s covered in a sugary syrup. And it’s typically served with white rice which is really about as healthy as plain white flour or sugar. Your pancreas won’t tell the difference. And since it was served at a buffet, there’s a good chance it was seasoned with MSG. (Most Chinese restaurants have stopped using MSG, however many Chinese buffets continue to use it because:
1. It acts as a short term food preservative on steam tables.
2. It greatly enhances the flavor and makes you thirsty.
3. It can cause a bloated, full feeling in people so they don’t eat as much.)
But you blame the feeling of having a brick in your stomach on the chicken itself with little or no acknowledgement of where you ate it and how it was prepared? It’s 50% sugar and starch, but the problem is chicken?
Quote: (04-25-2019 07:26 PM)Solitaire Wrote:
My body is stronger and healthier because I have listened to what it wants to have. I've paid attention to the details, the mechanisms within. NO DIET SUITS EVERYONE. You can't tell me what works for me personally. And, I don't care what the fuck anyone eats. I know what serves my body best. This parallels modern medicine. As we understand enzymatic pathways and such more every day, we can see that the oxycodone that makes one person high as a fucking kite just causes gastrointestinal distress and nothing more for someone else (namely, me). Food is the same way. Some people thrive on a paleo diet, others have severely negative consequences.
Quote: (04-26-2019 07:08 AM)VNvet Wrote:
Quote: (04-25-2019 07:26 PM)Solitaire Wrote:
My body is stronger and healthier because I have listened to what it wants to have. I've paid attention to the details, the mechanisms within. NO DIET SUITS EVERYONE. You can't tell me what works for me personally. And, I don't care what the fuck anyone eats. I know what serves my body best. This parallels modern medicine. As we understand enzymatic pathways and such more every day, we can see that the oxycodone that makes one person high as a fucking kite just causes gastrointestinal distress and nothing more for someone else (namely, me). Food is the same way. Some people thrive on a paleo diet, others have severely negative consequences.
Do you take any vitamin supplements?
EDIT: You can believe you're special, but humans need vitamins and minerals and the best way to absorb those vitamins is by eating the meat of animals that can actually process plants.
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Deficiencies
There are a number of deficiencies that can occur in an animal-free diet that are important for proper physiological function. Vegans need to make sure they're getting enough omega-3 fatty acids (250 mg of combined EPA and DHA minimum) to counter a larger omega-6 intake. Since nuts and seeds only contain the omega-3 ALA, and ALA is not efficiently converted into EPA and DHA, they will either need to supplement with microalgae, buy fortified products, or eat enough foods with a low omega-6 to omega-3 ratio.
Creatine supplementation is a good idea for strength training, whether vegan or not. It's especially helpful for vegans, since they have lower amounts of creatine in their muscles compared to those who consume meat. Creatine has been shown to increase energy production in skeletal muscle, thus, assisting in developing strength and muscular hypertrophy.
A number of micronutrient deficiencies can be found in a meat- and dairy-free diet, as well. These include: Vitamin B12 for red blood cell count, calcium and vitamin D for bone health, iron for energy production, zinc for immune system and metabolic function, vitamin A for vision and other functions, and iodine for thyroid hormone production.
The Realization
You might now be realizing how this diet might complicate a few things. A truly committed individual can make it work by eating lots of oats, peanut butter, bread, pasta, rice, soy, nuts, seeds, tofu, tempeh, fruits and greens, and supplements/fortified foods to eliminate any deficiencies. To make progress in the big lifts (squat, deadlift, press, and bench press), one will have to get enough quality protein and calories by being as meticulous as possible. Without significant planning, little progress can be made as a novice trainee without some voodoo.
Quote: (04-26-2019 10:48 AM)ThriceLazarus Wrote:
Speaking of processing plants.
Meat is easier for us to digest, yes, to break down and incorporate. With plant matter, Mankind developed the ability to curate complex cultures of bacteria in spite of our carnivorous nature - hence our modestly lengthy small intestine. The main problem, as I see it, is that the vast majority of Americans are carrying bio-weapons in their bellies.