Quote: (12-03-2013 03:35 AM)Frank Wrote:
1) How often (both day+night) do you guys go out to get girls, and on average, how much money do you spend?
2) How much do you approach? As many as it takes to close, and along the way, get some numbers/makeouts?
3) For daygame, do you go out with sole purpose of day gaming or do you go about your business, and if you spot a girl, then you approach?
Thanks.
1. When i was just getting my feet wet, 6-7 nights. Money? Only on cover charges. Up until a few years ago, i'd only bought 1 chick a drink, and that's cause I bumped into her and spilt it all over her shirt.
It's true that liquid courage allows for more confidence and bluntness
But never getting fuzzy allows you to take advantage of chicks that are drinking.
There are plenty of threads about how to handle a chick objecting to you not drinking. I won't go into that.
2. I have a "lock it down" approach, and my goal was to know the dj, bouncer, bartender, waitress, and all of the regulars. Creates a pseudo-social circle.
From there, once i was in, i'd talk to everyone and anyone. Bus Boy, off duty cop, bridal party, give the Nod to the OG's in the back....Life of the party style game, and then parlay that into dancing with any chick. Fat, old, ugly, doesn't matter. (i've only had one wildebeest looking chick glom on to me)
"State" is all mental. Rather than drink and get sloppy, you get hype and get sharp. By the time you're in a good talkative mood, talking to chicks you want to sleep with is easy. Throw in the fact that's been getting fed cosmo's and PBR's all night, you can hit on her when she's not on *her*game. You can go direct/indirect and change on the fly.
As for a straight #'s game, if I dance with 5+ chicks, good chance that i'm in a good mood, they're in a good mood, and any sideline broad that sees me and her having fun, is also open to the holler. Especially, if you know how to dance, and you're not grinding shit out like it's Jersey Shore.
On most given nights I'll find something to get into, if not, I'll get a solid # after 10-15 minutes of conversation.
I know that doesn't give you much numerically to shoot for, but if the venue has 200 chicks in it, you're gonna be hard pressed to talk to all of the top 20 chicks in the space of 2.5 hours.
Going out enough, dancing and interacting with enough chicks, you'll see which fish are biting. It's real subtle stuff, but you really gotta understand how club game/loud venue game works.
It's visual, auditory, kinesthetic on the body language/subconscious level, then you've got actually talk and hit her with the content. Meanwhile, you're maneuvering her from place to place, feeling her out, checking her tells, getting her logistics, handling her hating ass girlfriend, and seeding the conversation with a bounce location.
Most guys use a sniper approach, young guys in the game or typical blue pill dudes. Waiting on the sidelines for the perfect moment, or when the liquor allows them to speak.
I"ve never found that to work for me. If I chillax, I stay cold. Especially if I'm drinking. Being tipsy is such a novel feeling for me at least, that my game falls flat. "I was so engulfed in the O.E." © 3 stacks
3) I've never gone out for day game with the explicit purpose of pulling chicks. There are very few everyday places that I want to go that are streaming with bitches. So day game for me is usually when I'm handling my bidness.
That being said, I will go to the good grocery store, i will go to the trendy mall, I will peruse other sections of the book store, I will hit up a concert or art event, pop up store/restaurant, or day time festival. But that's through genuine interest. Often times there are good looking women attending these things, but I've been to plenty of sausage fests as well.
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If game to you (and game is fucking noun) is a Friday and Saturday event, you're not going to get better.
You should really be running game from Sunday-Thursday, and leave Friday and Saturday for dates. The bar/club scene is way too much to handle when you're first starting out. Long lines, door fees, cover charges, hat check, drinks go up, loud music, lots of choads and white knights...and chances are you're not going to the high end spots to maximize, but the low-mid spots where every Tom Dick and Harry is trying to get into.
Guys that switch from night to day often benefit from being able to better deal with a chick when she's not in full defense mode. Same with moving from "prime time" to chicks who have no problem drinking a couple of vodka cranberries Tuesday @ 8pm.
WIA