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11-18-2013, 09:01 PM
Quote: (11-18-2013 08:47 PM)pitt Wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/sweden-is-closing-pri...1462950734
I am starting to believe all that Sweden hype and that Swedish women love foreigners and can't stand local guys. The country has no bad guys, Sweden must be a pussy heaven. If i was into white chicks, I would be booking my ticket right now.
And those news about the Muslim inmigrants who are raping Swedish women? Swedish Government is not prosecuting them?
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11-18-2013, 09:03 PM
Don't believe everything you hear. I personally can't stand the arrogance of the Swedes I have met.
Remember Julian Assange? Isn't he sitting in an embassy in London because a feminist in Sweden accused him of having sex (consensual) with her without a condom?
Also, take a look at what is happening over in Oslo, Norway.
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Two out of three charged with rape in Norway’s capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study."
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The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is six times as high as in New York City."
Well, that should fill the jails up!
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Great ROK article on this:
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11-18-2013, 09:07 PM
Anyone have a reputable source for Scandinavian rape claims? The link above goes to a blog that links to other blogs. Where is the actual source of these stats?
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11-18-2013, 09:10 PM
Quote: (11-18-2013 08:47 PM)pitt Wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/sweden-is-closing-pri...1462950734
I am starting to believe all that Sweden hype and that Swedish women love foreigners and can't stand local guys. The country has no bad guys, Sweden must be a pussy heaven. If i was into white chicks, I would be booking my ticket right now.
Less competition for me!
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11-18-2013, 09:16 PM
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Anyone have a reputable source for Scandinavian rape claims? The link above goes to a blog that links to other blogs. Where is the actual source of these stats?
Oslo Police Rape Report
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11-18-2013, 09:22 PM
All these Sweden threads, I don't get why Americans are so obsessed about us when they know so little about us. We are like Japan to you, but with feminism/leftism instead of lol-so-crazy things.
As for rape statistics, I would assume that the gentlemen who frequent this board are aware of that feminists considers everything rape, but I guess it is more important to wholly blame the muslims instead? Yes I am aware of that these people do more than their fair share of that stuff. But the biggest culprit in the rise of rape is that they have changed the law to include things that wouldn't be considered rape anywhere else, rather sexual harassment or something along those lines. The idea that Sweden is the country with most rapes per capita is insane.
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11-18-2013, 10:44 PM
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Quote: (11-18-2013 08:47 PM)pitt Wrote:
http://gizmodo.com/sweden-is-closing-pri...1462950734
I am starting to believe all that Sweden hype and that Swedish women love foreigners and can't stand local guys. The country has no bad guys, Sweden must be a pussy heaven. If i was into white chicks, I would be booking my ticket right now.
Less competition for me!
Maybe we can send some of our convicts there to help them out.
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11-18-2013, 11:18 PM
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11-18-2013, 11:42 PM
Hard time is great. 'til the guy gets out. Then it's hard times for everyone he comes in contact with.
Don't get me wrong. Some people need to be locked away for a long long time. However, the expansion of the American prison system, to the point that we have about 2.5 million people in prison (that's not even counting local jails), is completely counterproductive to the goal of a safer society, a huge fiscal drain, and completely immoral. All it does is facilitate the expansion of the perpetual underclass and brin us closer to the day where our society is completely split into an elite upper class and a prole underclass.
I'm not a big fan of the Scandinavian welfare
state or their very progressive versions of feminism and multiculturalism, but they are miles ahead of us in the area of criminal justice.
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11-19-2013, 12:12 AM
@Sam
Bro do you honestly think our prison system is better than the Swedes?
I understand the point you are making about how in a Swede only society that rehabilitation would work just fine, and I agree with you on that point, but if you are suggesting straight incarceration American style - well that certainly hasn't worked over here.
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11-19-2013, 02:43 AM
I'm upset to hear that the Norwegian people might disappear, as that is my ancestral 'homeland'. As long as Minnesota and Iowa are still around though, there should still be a sizeable population of them.
The Swedes have a great criminal justice system, in my opinion. The recidivism rate (even for adults) is not that bad. We take a bigger "gamble" in the US because prisons are convict factories.
In the US, a man who gets imprisoned for any reason whatsoever is not just taken "out of society" - he gets thrown into an dark criminal underclass society where he can expect to be beaten and possibly raped, or even contract HIV, and expect no protection or sympathy whatsoever unless he chooses to join a gang or suck some meathead's dick. Nobody really gives a shit about prisoners whatsoever, at least not enough to ensure that they're not going to get pummelled and raped to death in the showers or shanked with a chicken bone by some Mexican dude who's looking to impress a cartel drug lord on the outside with a show of loyalty. Bernie Madoff assholes, multiple offending drunk drivers, car thieves, nonviolent offenders, that friendly guy with dreadlocks who was caught with a kilo of weed on the streetcorner, domestic abusers, and particularly the falsely imprisoned all get subject to the same shit regardless of why they're in there.
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11-19-2013, 03:42 AM
you know... i have a friend who was in the military and about to commission.(he was just finishing college) He was accepted to start law school immediately after, on a military scholarship program. He was very very squared away. But he was a complete and public womanizer. Well one girl, cried rape on his frat boy roomate. well he was there asleep, the roomate and the girl were messing around and he woke up after to the girl freaking out and leaving. She realized he was in the military....and come to find out she was actually married, to a military guy and her drugged and unsober mind decided that she should hall ass, after banging for 30 mins. She realized she was cheating closer to home than she thought.
Well, she 3 days later says she was rapped. My friend threw away her panties and very honestly told the cops this, when they showed up to ask about the situation. He didnt know what was going on when he woke up.
Minutes later he was arrested, and charged with rape as well. Well the DNA evidence destroyed her story about him having any physical interaction with her, although his roomate did. Well ultimately both were convicted, and he was convicted of some sort of accessory charge landing him in prison for up to 5.
Fast forward, when he gets out. He is almost unrecognizable to me. He is racist, very extreme in his views, almost like he has been reverse educated... it was amazing how it changed him and definitely for the worse. He was someone who was winning academic and military awards volunteering and mentoring kids. Now he is just such damaged goods. Prison definitely isnt to a place for rehab in the states...just a place to hide them from society, making them even more dysfunctional when they re-enter.
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11-19-2013, 05:51 AM
When comparing the American prison system to swedens, I think Sweden wins. Most criminals in America that spend time in prison end up going right back. Many of them prefer prison over the real world after being locked up for so long. It's like you go in for petty drug sales and graduate with a degree in international drug smuggling. I believe in rehabilitation. I think depending in the case, some of those people deserve to rot in prison, like murderers and crazy shit like that. But an alarmingly high rate of people locked up in the states are there on some garbage drug chargers. People spending 20 years behind bars for selling some coke? What the fuck is that? Garbage is what it is.
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11-19-2013, 06:24 AM
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But an alarmingly high rate of people locked up in the states are there on some garbage drug chargers. People spending 20 years behind bars for selling some coke? What the fuck is that? Garbage is what it is.
Blame the Prison Industrial complex. Things like justice and punishment shouldn't be privatized. It's like something out of Robocop, which was meant as a satire on militarism and hyper-capitalism. Here in Britain, the probation service is getting privatized in March 2014.
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11-19-2013, 06:36 AM
This doesn't surprise me. But you must note that this is all in many shades of gray (not, those shades you perverts). The gentle Swedish approach, while it undeniably works far better then the cruel USA system (i.e. it rescues all those "accidental criminals" and steers them back to normal life instead of guaranteeing that they'll become hardened gangsters), would be a hard sell in a primitive country.
For example, Croatian prisons are chock full of these gentle rules: facilities, services, rehabilitation, holidays and vacations (yes, HOLIDAYS AND VACATIONS) - but people on average are far too much of a scum to be reformed by that, so instead the enjoy their vacation from prison during which they kill a cop and rob a bank just for fun, then go back to prison and are again let out for vacations. It's crazy. My point being: the gentle justice system is great, but it only works on gentle, generally civilized people where most people are not scum. Try to use it on a much more depraved (on average) population and it will fail spectacularly.
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