[M-Chill]

Question for anyone on this forum. Have you banged a Millionarie's daughter in the Philippines? I guess we will find out how common that is soon. BTW I gross over 1 mil a year and was not rolling with hobos in Manila. Rich girls rarely even party with foreigners from my experience.

[JayJuanGee]

(01-09-2014 01:41 PM)M-Chill Wrote:  

Question for anyone on this forum. Have you banged a Millionarie's daughter in the Philippines? I guess we will find out how common that is soon. BTW I gross over 1 mil a year and was not rolling with hobos in Manila. Rich girls rarely even party with foreigners from my experience.

Rather than bragging about your various stats, and trying to suggest that you are above guys on this forum. Why don't you provide some kind of data sheet in order to show us what it is like to recreate and/or to game in the circles of the rich and famous? Enlighten us with details, NOT finger pointing!!

[worldwidetraveler]

(01-09-2014 01:52 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:41 PM)M-Chill Wrote:  

Question for anyone on this forum. Have you banged a Millionarie's daughter in the Philippines? I guess we will find out how common that is soon. BTW I gross over 1 mil a year and was not rolling with hobos in Manila. Rich girls rarely even party with foreigners from my experience.

Rather than bragging about your various stats, and trying to suggest that you are above guys on this forum. Why don't you provide some kind of data sheet in order to show us what it is like to recreate and/or to game in the circles of the rich and famous? Enlighten us with details, NOT finger pointing!!

Maybe you should chill. He isn't bragging, he is telling you a little about himself so you get an idea where he is coming from. You want more info yet tell the guy to stop bragging.

[JayJuanGee]

(01-09-2014 02:07 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:52 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 01:41 PM)M-Chill Wrote:  

Question for anyone on this forum. Have you banged a Millionarie's daughter in the Philippines? I guess we will find out how common that is soon. BTW I gross over 1 mil a year and was not rolling with hobos in Manila. Rich girls rarely even party with foreigners from my experience.

Rather than bragging about your various stats, and trying to suggest that you are above guys on this forum. Why don't you provide some kind of data sheet in order to show us what it is like to recreate and/or to game in the circles of the rich and famous? Enlighten us with details, NOT finger pointing!!

Maybe you should chill. He isn't bragging, he is telling you a little about himself so you get an idea where he is coming from. You want more info yet tell the guy to stop bragging.

Ok. I will concede that it is possible that I could have chosen better words to describe what it appears to me that M-Chill is doing in his earlier post(s); however, from my limited point of view (of someone who is NOT grossing anywhere near those numbers), it seems far out of the experiences of many guys participating in this forum to be grossing anywhere near those numbers.... especially guys on this forum who are traveling and living in the Phils.

Accordingly, in my thinking, if a guy is rolling in that kind of dough, then that guy needs to provide some details concerning his experiences, rather that baldly asserting various conclusions and expecting guys on this forum to be able to relate to him or to understand about what he is describing.

If he is providing information above and beyond our experience(s), then we are NOT going to have any way to understand it, without his providing some details. Therefore, I stick to my guns in my earlier assertion that we need more details from M-Chill.

[M-Chill]

Basically all I am saying is that you wont be 'gaming in the circles' of the rich and famous even if you have some walking around money. You can bang models and other very hot and desirable girls, but they wont be rich.

In my time there I honestly cant even pinpoint where the 'rich' girls socialize, but they sure as hell did not want to be seen with foreigners (or other middle class Filipinos). The rich girls probably live outside Manila in Alabang, or inside some other gated communities like Bel Air in Makati (next to Rockwell) or Forbes Park. There is so much sex tourism in the Philippines (mostly from old dirty fat foreigners), that being seen with a foreigner has a stigma (for the rich).

I am happy to be enlightened by anyone who has gamed top tier Filipina though.

[RawGod]

If you have the money, connections, and/or social skills to roll with the power elite of the Philippines or another country, then more power to you. That's game right there. But why would the women of that elite have golden pussies?

[WanderingSoul]

I'm not really talking about "rich and famous", but more girls who are educated, well traveled, etc. Not necessary their dads make a million a year. I'm talkin BMW rich, not Ferrari rich, if that makes sense.

Chill, how old are you? Where are you from? Thanks.

[WanderingSoul]

(01-09-2014 10:26 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

If you have the money, connections, and/or social skills to roll with the power elite of the Philippines or another country, then more power to you. That's game right there. But why would the women of that elite have golden pussies?

No one said they did.

[Scott Free]

(01-09-2014 04:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Scott, great info.

How do the well off Filipina girls view foreigners? Here in Bangkok poor girls typically live us because we represent a upgrade in lifestyle. Middle class girls can go either way. Many love us because we are different and exotic to them. Many are indifferent and may be open if they like you. And many probably aren't interested in foreigners.

However, most upper class girls are much more difficult as there is a negative connotation with a well off Thai women being with a white guy. Some still love foreigners, but many shy away from us because of the impact it could have on their reputations.

How are we viewed by upper class girls in the Phils? By us I mean white guys in our 20s and 30s who dress decently and are obviously not sex tourists going to Angels City.

The answer to this can be very complicated, but I'll try to analyze and break it down.

An overwhelming desire for most Filipinas (as it is with most women) is to produce superior offsprings. Foreigners normally represent a chance for a Filipina not only to achieve this, but for her to also have a comfortable life and share in the guy's wealth/status/resources.

Now, suppose the woman already has wealth, it does not omit the first statement. Since the days as a Spanish Colony, Spaniards and natives (indios) have interbred to produce what Filipinos to this day still call Mestizos, bi-racial/multi-racial offsprings. Mestizos are highly regarded and usually end up as models or actors or politicians, etc. The Colonial Mentality has forced Filipinos/Filipinas to look down upon their flat noses (figuratively) and want to have a Caucasian's more defined nose bridge. This is evident in the increasing number of rhinoplasties being performed. As you can imagine, the desire for an offspring's blended features is powerful in Filipina Mothers. You guys that are over there may have heard the phrase "Matangos ang ilong" which should prove the presence of this issue.

Suppose the Filipina is super-rich. It should also be taken into account that it is going to be very probable that social pressures particularly from her family will be in place in order to keep wealth within their circle. The Philippines is a third world nation that, albeit the significant improvements recently, is still impoverished. Is it any wonder that those who have wealth work harder to maintain it? It is likely very difficult for the parents to have to watch their child "be taken off to another land." Their daughter will have maids and servants at her beck and call in their household, while in America... will that still hold true?

I believe that it's not that it's taboo for her to date a foreigner... it's that it's taboo for her to date someone with less status/wealth/resources than her family. Bring a handsome, famous actor to the Philippines and let me see their parents deny the advantages associated with that.

I imagine that this case would be true for most people in the world, not just Filipinas. I think it would be an oversimplication to state that rich Filipina girls look down upon dating foreigners.

The only question that really matters in such a situation is: How good is your game?

[gamma_male]

At the moment I'm more concerned about finding 8+ girls. The amount of money in a girl's dad bank account doesn't give me boner really. You could find some really pretty ones on FC but of course they are not responsive and you can't do much about it on an online website (I know how to weed out scammers). Any insight into this is much appreciated.

[DirectDanger]

@Scott Free
Great explanation.

I have not found that it is looked down upon for a girl to date a foreigner here in the Philippines. This is not like Thailand where the top 5% of girls is out of reach and only dates local guys.

Not to imply that it is easy, or that I am going after these girls. But that it is possible.

Girls in the top 5% of wealth here also are much more likely to have spent time in the US and maybe even got an education there. The girls at the top I have hung out with seem to have more of an American attitude, which is not something I am looking for.

[Scott Free]

(01-09-2014 11:40 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

The girls at the top I have hung out with seem to have more of an American attitude, which is not something I am looking for.

Hahaha! Ex-fucking-actly!

[WanderingSoul]

(01-09-2014 10:43 PM)gamma_male Wrote:  

At the moment I'm more concerned about finding 8+ girls. The amount of money in a girl's dad bank account doesn't give me boner really.

Maybe it's different in the Phils, but in Thailand the best looking girls generally come from money. Why? Lighter skin, their dads had money so they were able to marry more attractive women, they dress better, get their hair done, have their makeup done, etc.

People are getting hung up on their dads money, but lets not kid ourselves, girls who come from money overall are generally better looking than girls who don't.

Not that I fuck exclusively rich girls, I just want to know how much of a negative connotation there is for a well off (not millionaire, but well off) girl to be seen with a foreigner. Here in Thailand there is definitely some stigma, especially at the very high end as DD mentioned. I'm not concerned with the elite, just the well off girls who don't come from farms in Isaan.

I could give two fucks how much money a girls dad has, but girls from well off families definitely tend to skew towards being more attractive.

[Scott Free]

RioNomad,

Any negative connotation that might exist in the Philippines should be negligible. I wouldn't worry about it. Any plans to go there soon?

[WanderingSoul]

(01-10-2014 01:54 AM)Scott Free Wrote:  

RioNomad,

Any negative connotation that might exist in the Philippines should be negligible. I wouldn't worry about it. Any plans to go there soon?

I'm here in BKK now. I really want to get to Manila and Jakarta this year. It's in the works, but may still be a while.

Thanks for all the info. Appreciate it.

[Scott Free]

(01-10-2014 02:02 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

I'm here in BKK now. I really want to get to Manila and Jakarta this year. It's in the works, but may still be a while.

Thanks for all the info. Appreciate it.

No worries man. Good luck! Check out Tiger Airline or Cebu Pacific when you do... I believe they offer cheap flights to Manila. Oh, and I'd love to hear your impressions, especially if you do encounter the kind of stigma you describe in Thailand.

[YardDog]

I agree with SF and DD - that is, I think a good looking, successful, put together white dude can reach any level of woman in the Philippines.

The only exception I think would be the Chinese Filos or other East Asians and that hyper rich segment.

Like SF explained so well, Fil Am babies are highly prized. That's a mix of white and Filo. I don't think that desire is bounded by class at all. Again, except for the upper class East Asian segments.

I've had countless girls here tell me they want babies with white dudes and me in particular. More than a couple times I've fucked girls on the first date and they're begging for my seed - while I was fucking them. Then just won't shut up about how 'hot' our babies would be. I have a few stalkers that carrying on about this too.

I'm very tall with blue eyes. Most times I meet girls they can't shut up about how tall I am or how beautiful my eyes are. I have a longer nose which is also very popular. In short, my looks are idolized here. Wealth or class doesn't stop that. It's not like Korea, Japan or even Thailand. Many, many girls here want a good looking, tall white dude's seed!

RioNomad - I understand what you're saying about finding girls that aren't hyper rich, but from upper middle class families. Like SF and DD said, being a white dude won't stop you. I think one of the the far bigger cock blocks is lack of options. This is very poor place and the wealth is extremely concentrated. I know it is most places, but here it's very extreme.

I was talking to a buddy last night about the Philippines current 'fastest growing GDP' in Asia ranking. But he brought up a very important fact. I don't have a source for this, but this dude generally is on the ball. He said fully 75% of the gains in economic activity over the last 5-10 years have been concentrated in just 40 families. 40 families! That's crazy if true. And that will directly impact your ability to find upper class honeys. There are not million and millions of them to choose from.

I've dated many girls here in Cebu that in USA would be upper middle class. Doctors, bank officers, and lawyers. Here, they are not. A couple had newer cars which to other locals made them 'rich'. But they were still far from Mercedes or Beamers. I guess for here they are upper middle class, but the scale is just different.

In Manila I'm sure there are many more, but I still don't think there's a upper class there that's comparable to BKK in terms of population. I could be wrong though..

[YardDog]

(01-07-2014 03:22 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 02:00 AM)YardDog Wrote:  

(01-07-2014 01:45 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

How much is a typical cheap meal in pesos?

It really depends on what you're looking to eat. But I'll assume by typical you mean what does a local Filipino eat and how much is it.

YardDog. Thanks. You give a pretty good outline of various food possibilities. Personally, I do NOT really care if a restaurant is classified as western or NOT. I am thinking more in terms of eating meat and fats as being good and minimizing the number of carbs in my diet. I would NOT want to eat a lot of bread or rice or noodles....

So if a guy is wanting to eat a lot of meat dishes, and even seafood, I suppose, he is getting into the 300 to 400 peso range per meal if he is eating out?


What do you think about the idea of eating at home, and having a place that has some facilities for cooking? Surely, I do NOT like the work of cooking and cleaning up; however, I was thinking that if i were to stay in the Phils (whether Cebu, Manila or even Davao) for more than a month at at time it may be less expensive to get a place with cooking facilities and have someone cook and shop for me about 3 or more times a week. Then, I would be able to eat better quality food, and be able to chose the kind of food that I wanted.

For me, if I'm traveling more than a week I can't imagine anything but an apartment with a kitchen (unless it's 2 weeks at a full service resort or something). I get sick of sitting in restaurants and cant' imagine a month of eating out 2-4 times a day. I guess in a place like BKK it might be doable because of street food, but here in PI I don't think so. AirBnB has been amazing for me because I can have a kitchen most places I go to.

I eat a paleo diet mostly, but don't count carbs. I really only worry about eating natural, good food and staying full a long time. So lots of fat and protein too.

I'd say if you want to eat low carb here you can easily do that - at the grocery store. Sure, some restaurants will have options for you, but your choices might be limited and you'll be going to the same places frequently.

you can get decent steak here, seafood, oils, butter from NZ, good fruit and veggies, dark chocolate, etc. to create a high fat, high protein diet. But it's going to be far easier with your own kitchen.

Cebu doesn't have a great Airbnb selection - Manila/Makati/Fort is much better for that.

Yes, for 300-400 pesos you can get steak and seafood dinners and most places.

hope that helps.

[iknowexactly]

"...fully 75% of the gains in economic activity over the last 5-10 years have been concentrated in just 40 families. 40 families!

I've dated many girls here in Cebu that in USA would be upper middle class. ...... Here, they are not.

In Manila I'm sure there are many more, but I still don't think there's a upper class there that's comparable to BKK in terms of population. I could be wrong though.."

Hoping time's not quite running out for the phils for the short/medium , old, or less than GQ. ( like me)
One thing that indicates things are still good is a lot of the chicks I'm pipelining are in internet cafes, not on home computers. That indicates they want out (literally or economically), so they can get iPhones and attention-whore until they become like Americunts. There's no way 21-25 ( and even 18!) year olds would be SKyping with a 55 year old unless the place was all fucked up economically for most. I talked to one nice girl , bright with a miserable sounding job in a factory. I asked her why she thought the Phils were poor.

She said most Filipinos are lazy, and she was grateful she had a job at all.

Haven't gotten there yet, but
This is not America in 1900.

[iknowexactly]

(01-09-2014 11:43 PM)Scott Free Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 11:40 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

The girls at the top I have hung out with seem to have more of an American attitude, which is not something I am looking for.

Hahaha! Ex-fucking-actly!

As soon as women get access to money, physical and social mobility and OPTIONS, they ALL cunt up. It's just market forces.

Hypergamy is universal and eternal. Even gerbils probably do it. Although I don't know that from personal experience.

[dalbroker]

You do realize the GDP per capita is like $3k/year in PI
Rich girls by your standards do not grow on trees.

I did meet one girl there whose family owned a lot of
commercial property....she had an american attitude
and was nowhere near doable.

If you research the threads you will find the upper
end bars like prive which attract higher end clientele.

You might want to goto Toyko, HK or Sing ....

My 2 cents

(01-09-2014 01:41 PM)M-Chill Wrote:  

Question for anyone on this forum. Have you banged a Millionarie's daughter in the Philippines? I guess we will find out how common that is soon. BTW I gross over 1 mil a year and was not rolling with hobos in Manila. Rich girls rarely even party with foreigners from my experience.

[JayJuanGee]

(01-10-2014 07:37 AM)YardDog Wrote:  

I eat a paleo diet mostly, but don't count carbs. I really only worry about eating natural, good food and staying full a long time. So lots of fat and protein too.

I'd say if you want to eat low carb here you can easily do that - at the grocery store. Sure, some restaurants will have options for you, but your choices might be limited and you'll be going to the same places frequently.

you can get decent steak here, seafood, oils, butter from NZ, good fruit and veggies, dark chocolate, etc. to create a high fat, high protein diet. But it's going to be far easier with your own kitchen.

Cebu doesn't have a great Airbnb selection - Manila/Makati/Fort is much better for that.

Yes, for 300-400 pesos you can get steak and seafood dinners and most places.

hope that helps.

YardDog: Thanks for the very useful information. I have posted quite a bit about various aspects of my way of eating in other RVF posts.

And, Yes, you and I seem to be on a very similar page concerning our way of eating.

I would characterize my way of eating as a form of paleo, as well, yet there are a lot of varying understandings of paleo but in essence, I limit my carbs (and I do NOT really count but I do keep track if I am eating a lot of carbs, then I consciously will begin to restrict them more intensively or increase my fats to offset the negative effects). Like you, I strive to eat mostly whole foods, and in recent years, I have been attempting to focus on getting lots of animal fats, and attempt to avoid processed vegetable fats - except for if I am actually eating the vegetable fat in its whole form, such as avocados. Regarding vegetable fats, all over the world, there are way too many processed vegetable oils that have been partially hydrogenized - which is really another way of saying transfat, without the label - that will kill guys and bring lots of negative health ramifications. Maybe while young guys will NOT notice, but when guys age, these processed vegetable oils wreak havoc.

I consider that the best ways to cook is to use, animal fats (such as lard or tallow) or to use butter or coconut oil. Actually, many times when I get coconut oil in the USA, it seems to come from either Philippines or Thailand; however, when I ask around in these threads about cooking with coconut oil, guys frequently do NOT know how to get access to coconut oil in the Phils - b/c it seems that there may be some westernized infiltration of all these cheap industrial oils into the cooking lives of people in the Phils - even though the Phils are surrounded by coconuts.

I understand that there are quite a few coconut drinks and various other cocunut products in the Phils and Thailand, but what about coconut oil for cooking? Do you have any experience with that?

[samsamsam]

IKE, how soon does your adventure start?

Good luck!

[DVY]

(01-09-2014 10:08 PM)M-Chill Wrote:  

In my time there I honestly cant even pinpoint where the 'rich' girls socialize, but they sure as hell did not want to be seen with foreigners (or other middle class Filipinos). The rich girls probably live outside Manila in Alabang,

I am happy to be enlightened by anyone who has gamed top tier Filipina though.

I met this 22 yr old filipina chick here in LA. Her family lives in Alabang, owns a huge import/export clothing company. Very sweet, even-tempered, obedient. She has a BF back home (probably a family setup).

She told me she never goes out in Manila, except for b-days, w/friends. Its really tough to target these girls. The family didn't even want to let her come to America. Everything "stays in the family" so to say.

I just got lucky because she was eating street food in LA, and I walked up and started spitting.

As for the 40 families claim, thats a stretch.

[YardDog]

(01-10-2014 08:51 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

"...fully 75% of the gains in economic activity over the last 5-10 years have been concentrated in just 40 families. 40 families!

I've dated many girls here in Cebu that in USA would be upper middle class. ...... Here, they are not.

In Manila I'm sure there are many more, but I still don't think there's a upper class there that's comparable to BKK in terms of population. I could be wrong though.."

Hoping time's not quite running out for the phils for the short/medium , old, or less than GQ. ( like me)
One thing that indicates things are still good is a lot of the chicks I'm pipelining are in internet cafes, not on home computers. That indicates they want out (literally or economically), so they can get iPhones and attention-whore until they become like Americunts. There's no way 21-25 ( and even 18!) year olds would be SKyping with a 55 year old unless the place was all fucked up economically for most. I talked to one nice girl , bright with a miserable sounding job in a factory. I asked her why she thought the Phils were poor.

She said most Filipinos are lazy, and she was grateful she had a job at all.

Haven't gotten there yet, but
This is not America in 1900.

If you're a well kept, smart, well-off and good to average looking guy I think you're still in the top 5% here - even at 50. I'm not 'GQ' either. In fact, I think rolling around here in a suit or 'dressy' look would just be strange.

What you're seeing online is accurate. The economy is getting better here but unemployment is still high and wages are shockingly low. Many of the girls I've spent time with are planning to leave (Canada, Singapore, Middle East, etc.). Many have siblings already living aboard.

11% of PI economy comes from foreign remittance to give you an idea of how many Filipinos live aboard. Labor is the countries #1 export!

If you can give a girl a good life and she's able to stay in her own country and be near her family you're already in the top 5%. Most guys here can't do that.

BTW - even the girls I hang with her that have cars and iPhones are not cunts. They're sweet, sexy and fun to hang out with. Not bitchy at all.