[Kaizen]

(12-16-2013 09:15 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

My post about Mcqueen and the Submariner was actually a joke. I like the DateJust and the Explorers as well. That Milgauss is sweet too.

But you probably can't beat this for whorebait bling

Personally, I find a watch like this gaudy. I would have no interest in wearing it. Different strokes I guess..

[MrXY]

Exactly-it's gaudy as hell-that's the whole point

Women are largely incapable of appreciating true craftsmanship and understated elegance

They are attracted to things that telegraph social status and wealth is very obvious ways

Which is why I referred to the Yachtmaster as "whorebait bling."

You can get the gold Yachtmaster for about $30,000

Here's a Patek Philippe for comparison:



Price:$37,000

Which watch says "I'm rich" and is going to attract hot chicks from a distance-the gaudy Rolex or the Patek which they could mistake for a Fossil

Which watch gets it wet?-the Rolex

[Tail Gunner]

(12-16-2013 11:11 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

Exactly-it's gaudy as hell-that's the whole point

Women are largely incapable of appreciating true craftsmanship and understated elegance

They are attracted to things that telegraph social status and wealth is very obvious ways

Which is why I referred to the Yachtmaster as "whorebait bling."

You can get the gold Yachtmaster for about $30,000

Here's a Patek Philippe for comparison:



Price:$37,000

Which watch says "I'm rich" and is going to attract hot chicks from a distance-the gaudy Rolex or the Patek which they could mistake for a Fossil

Which watch gets it wet?-the Rolex

More to life than women. If it's gaudy, I won't wear it (much less buy it) -- any more than I would dress up like Mystery.

BTW: That watch is not gaudy. It just looks that way, blown up ten times its normal size. Rolex watches are not usually gaudy -- just big, heavy, and clunky.

[Shotgun Styles]

(12-16-2013 11:11 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

Exactly-it's gaudy as hell-that's the whole point

Women are largely incapable of appreciating true craftsmanship and understated elegance

They are attracted to things that telegraph social status and wealth is very obvious ways

Yeah man. Didn't we cover this shit like two pages ago?

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(12-16-2013 09:15 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

My post about Mcqueen and the Submariner was actually a joke. I like the DateJust and the Explorers as well. That Milgauss is sweet too.

But you probably can't beat this for whorebait bling

Actually,



Baller bawss shit. Let everyone know that you're a rapper who just got his first (and probably last) record deal

[Kaizen]

If I'm spending >10K on a watch, would be nice to love it myself in addition to the pontang loving it

this customized roley just might fit the bill; it says 'young, stylish and flush with cash'

[Tail Gunner]

(12-17-2013 10:49 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

If I'm spending >10K on a watch, would be nice to love it myself in addition to the pontang loving it

this customized roley just might fit the bill; it says 'young, stylish and flush with cash'

If you customize your Rolex watch, be aware that Rolex might refuse to service your watch and may even confiscate your parts. They have confiscated expensive 18k gold bracelets, dials, bezels, and other custom parts that infringed on their patents.

Here is a notice from a Rolex repair site: "Application of custom accessories will void the watch manufacturer's original warranty and will preclude factory service." So, enjoy your custom Rolex. I could go on forever about that company. Some other food for thought:

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The Argument Against Rolex Watches
Dwayne Smith

Disagree? Let us know on the posts. And come back to AM next Thursday, when the rebuttal to this argument - Ariel Adam's Argument For Rolex Watches - will be published.

Let’s get one thing straight: Rolexes are for people that know names but don’t know watches. For the price Rolex charges, you can buy dozens of other watches that are better looking, more accurate, much less common, and don’t make you look like you're an overweight white man coming off the golf course. Consider this: When former model Carla Bruni hooked up with newly minted French president Nicolas Sarkozy, the very first thing she did was make him swap out his gold Rolex for a much more refined Patek Philippe. Rolexes reek of desperation.

No one in their right mind should spend their hard earned money on a new Rolex. Here's why.

Rolex movements are over-hyped

First, the movement quality of your run-of-the-mill Rolex is nothing special. In fact, many much more affordable Swiss watches use movements that keep time just as well. To add insult to injury, there are even some Chinese, Japanese and Russian movements that are just as — if not more — accurate as a standard Rolex movement.

Rolex watches look stale

Rolex’s designs are stale. This brand hasn’t released a truly new model in over a decade, and the majority of the watches it makes today are exact duplicates of the watches it made half a century ago. In fact, the biggest innovation it has made in recent years is a new metal called “Rolesor,” which is heavily advertised as a great new substance for watchmaking. Guess what; it’s just steel and gold.

Rolex stories are nothing but a myth

All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.” Rolex also submitted a watch to NASA in the early ‘60s to be considered for use in the moon missions. We all know how that turned out.

Rolex watches are for seniors or rappers

It is rare for a brand to be considered both stodgy and lame and ghetto fabulous at the very same time, yet Rolex has done it. If you ask one person on the street what they think of Rolex, they’ll tell you their elderly grandfather wears one in between rounds of golf and his daily 2 p.m. nap. If you ask another, they’ll tell you the only people that wear Rolexes are athletes and rappers. So which are you, a sleepy 85-year-old bald man or an 18-year-old athlete from the hood trying to prove his worth to the world?

Still not convinced that Rolex watches are overdone? We have one more argument after the jump...

Rolex watches are for posers

If you are not one of the two groups mentioned above, wearing a Rolex oozes desperation. Yes, a Rolex is the most recognizable watch on the planet — now is that supposed to be a good thing? Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them.

Essentially, you just look like a douche. Be confident enough in yourself and in your sense of style that you don’t need to be wearing a veritable calling card of the nouveau riche.

to rolex or not to rolex? not.

Rolex is masterful at branding, and mediocre at watchmaking. Do yourself a favor and pass on the Submariner, Datejust and Daytona. For the price you’ll pay for a new Rolex you can buy a vintage Steve McQueen Heuer, an equally high-quality Omega Aqua Terra Chronograph or even a limited edition boutique diving watch from Linde Werdelin. Don’t be fooled by the Rolex marketing machine.

Be your own man and the next time someone tries to impress you with a Rolex, sit back and try not to make them feel bad about wearing an overpriced, under-designed, neon sign of a watch. If all this wasn’t enough to make you forget Rolex forever, we’ll leave you with one final argument: Tara Reid loves Rolex. If that doesn’t make you run in the other direction, we don’t know what will.

http://www.askmen.com/fashion/trends_500...tches.html

[Kaizen]

^ I did actually consider this piece but balked based on some of the things you mentioned.

while having it confiscated seems unlikely, trouble servicing it or reselling it (tastes change) would be a pain.

Strictly for aesthetics, I think it looks pretty sick. Definite wow factor and no concerns about someone rocking the same one

[Tail Gunner]

(12-17-2013 11:43 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

^ I did actually consider this piece but balked based on some of the things you mentioned.

while having it confiscated seems unlikely, trouble servicing it or reselling it (tastes change) would be a pain.

Strictly for aesthetics, I think it looks pretty sick. Definite wow factor and no concerns about someone rocking the same one

Rolex does not confiscate the watch. It confiscates the aftermarket parts, many of which can be quite expensive. Rolex returns the watch.

[deathtofatties]

lol

[MrXY]

That Askmen article, in arguing why a a man shouldn't buy a Rolex, actually presents several very good arguments why a man who is interested in getting laid a lot by hot girls should buy a Rolex

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Rolex movements are over-hyped
First, the movement quality of your run-of-the-mill Rolex is nothing special. In fact, many much more affordable Swiss watches use movements that keep time just as well. To add insult to injury, there are even some Chinese, Japanese and Russian movements that are just as — if not more — accurate as a standard Rolex movement.

Over-hyped= well known to the general public who have the impression Rolex watches are high quality and expensive

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Rolex watches look stale
Rolex’s designs are stale. This brand hasn’t released a truly new model in over a decade, and the majority of the watches it makes today are exact duplicates of the watches it made half a century ago. In fact, the biggest innovation it has made in recent years is a new metal called “Rolesor,” which is heavily advertised as a great new substance for watchmaking. Guess what; it’s just steel and gold.

Stale= the Rolex look is firmly in the public mind and easily identifiable from a distance to a girl who likes to open her legs to guys with money

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Rolex stories are nothing but a myth
All those stories you hear about Rolexes being chosen as the watch for great adventures are only half true. For example, Rolex claims Sir Edmund Hillary wore an Explorer when he scaled the summit of Mount Everest for the first time. This is not the case. In fact, he only carried the Explorer until he reached the summit and then put on a watch from a small British company called Smiths. Hillary even wrote a signed letter endorsement to Smiths stating: “I carried your watch to the summit and it worked perfectly.” Rolex also submitted a watch to NASA in the early ‘60s to be considered for use in the moon missions. We all know how that turned out.

Myths= Rolex is associated in the public mind with masculine glamour, wealth and adventure. Not detrimental in the least to the wearer

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Rolex watches are for seniors or rappers
It is rare for a brand to be considered both stodgy and lame and ghetto fabulous at the very same time, yet Rolex has done it. If you ask one person on the street what they think of Rolex, they’ll tell you their elderly grandfather wears one in between rounds of golf and his daily 2 p.m. nap. If you ask another, they’ll tell you the only people that wear Rolexes are athletes and rappers. So which are you, a sleepy 85-year-old bald man or an 18-year-old athlete from the hood trying to prove his worth to the world?

I totally disagree with this and wonder who the author talked to; sounds like he just made up some bullshit to support his argument. Rolex is actually associated with douchy guys who have some money and like to show off; i.e. the type of guys hot girls like.

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Rolex watches are for posers
If you are not one of the two groups mentioned above, wearing a Rolex oozes desperation. Yes, a Rolex is the most recognizable watch on the planet — now is that supposed to be a good thing? Young men that don a Rolex are perceived as self-absorbed, insecure and image-obsessed by those around them. Essentially, you just look like a douche. Be confident enough in yourself and in your sense of style that you don’t need to be wearing a veritable calling card of the nouveau riche.

Wait one-doesn't this argument directly contradict the one above? Yes, it does. Being recognizable as a sign of wealth is a good thing for a man trying to get laid by hot girls, who aren't known for their refined appreciation of understated gentlemanly elegance.
The douches and nouveau riche guys are the guys getting laid a lot by these girls, who don't know the difference between a Fossil and a Breitling.

Tailgunner, i don't think we are disagreeing so much as talking about two different matters

You're talking about owning a watch as an appreciation of a fine timepiece

I'm talking about owning a watch as a method of getting hot ass fast

[Tail Gunner]

(12-18-2013 03:17 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

Tailgunner, i don't think we are disagreeing so much as talking about two different matters

You're talking about owning a watch as an appreciation of a fine timepiece

I'm talking about owning a watch as a method of getting hot ass fast

I totally agree. We are talking about two different things. I said earlier that there is more to life than women. I also said that I would not pay thousands of dollars for a hyped-up product for the sake of women, anymore than I would dress up like Mystery (even if it worked).

Using your logic, as stated above, most guys should simply spend a few hundred dollars on a good quality fake Rolex, i.e., stainless steel and mechanical (gold and quartz are too easy to spot). If impressing dimwitted golddiggers is your goal, then that is all that is required. Nothing more. No need to drop the cash.

I think that we are in agreement.

[WestIndianArchie]

Speaking of Rollie replicas, where could I find an all black submariner?

WIA

[Tail Gunner]

(12-18-2013 05:39 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Speaking of Rollie replicas, where could I find an all black submariner?

WIA

They are probably all over the web. More importantly, here is article that mentions what to look for in a replica:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/rolex-replicas-v...551/g.html

[Hotwheels]

I get more comments from broads concerning my Tag F1 than I do my Daytona.

Go figure.

[thirty-six]

[MrXY]

(12-18-2013 07:11 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I get more comments from broads concerning my Tag F1 than I do my Daytona.

Go figure.

I checked the F1 out since you mentioned -I like that look, much cheaper than the Rolex too

I'm in the market for a nice watch and I might go with that

The red and orange ones are flashy!

[HonantheBarbarian]

Tag watches are excellently understated.

The Formula 1 is also very lightweight, so if you don't like heavy watches its a definite plus.

I like a little bit of weight on my wrist, however.

[Hotwheels]

I got the white face as it goes with both casual and formal. Very happy with it.

There are loads of various faces. This is the model I have. WAU1111

42MM as my wrists are not large.

[birdrussell]

any thing with the word tourbillion in the name. watch out though they cost like they sound.

[Tail Gunner]

(12-19-2013 04:36 PM)birdrussell Wrote:  

any thing with the word tourbillion in the name. watch out though they cost like they sound.

Oddly enough, you can now buy a genuine tourbillion watch from China for less than $500, rather than paying $50,000 for a Swiss tourbillion. That is truly staggering. A few excerpts from a review of the watch:

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In fact, I made it a point to bring this watch around during my visits to various high end watch-makers to get their opinion. The general consensus was that it was really quite amazing that a tourbillon could be produced at that price, and some of the possible ways that this was achieved were with the low quality of materials, (the mineral crystal, leather strap, case and lack of finishing were pointed out), as well as the undeniably lower salaries in China versus Switzerland.

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Still, I am starting to think that with the tourbillon now plainly accessible to everyone, the hunger has less of a foothold in the collective frenzy of watch lust. Now I am forced to admit that my dream, and indeed the dreams of many watch lovers of owning this complication, came mostly from its unattainable high price and less from the intrinsic nature of the complication. Obviously, we crave that which we cannot have.

That is the key, and the facade of exclusivity of this once pricey complication has already begun to fade. In my own way, I have started to feel it and the triggering of a minor existential crisis. There is no doubt that as more Chinese tourbillons flood the market, more people will become familiar with them and the novelty factor will dim.

This state of affairs reminds me of when digital cameras were making their first appearance in the 1990's. Back then, I lusted over a Kodak digital SLR that had a huge digital back grafted onto a standard Nikon camera. I lusted after this because it did not require film to create an image, and that was truly amazing. At $30,000, owning it wasn't in the realm of possibility but I wanted it and I dreamt about it. I kept on using film grudgingly but had an eye on the developments in digital photography. Now of course digital cameras are everywhere and you even get one free with your mobile phone. Well, it's safe to say, the lust is gone.

http://www.ablogtowatch.com/aatos-tiago-...the-world/


For those unfamiliar with what the purpose of a tourbillon ("whirlwind" in French), it actually cancels the effect of gravity on the watch movement. This kind of stuff is why guys dig watches -- and bitches could care less.

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Depending on the position of the watch in the vertical plane (crown left; right; down; or up), different variations in the frequency of the balance wheel will occur as a result of changes in its center of gravity. For when a watch is in the vertical position, the earth's gravity either accelerates or slows the balance and the escapement (mechanism in the watch that regulates the speed of rotation of the wheels), causing a rate gain or loss. Even a watch in excellent condition that has been recently lubricated, serviced, and adjusted for temperature variations will still suffer the inevitable influence of the gravitational force of the Earth.

To nullify the effects of gravity in pocket watches, the great French watchmaker Abraham-Louis Breguet invented the tourbillon in 1795, propelling the tourbillon history.

[EasyMoney]

I wouldn't wear a watch that I would be mortified if something happened to it.

I'm wearing a seiko that retails for 250 but can be found online for less than half that. I love it, and people complement me on it all the time.



But, I don't care what anyone thinks of Rolex's - I love em and cant wait to get one. I love the classic and simple designs and quality construction. I'd get a 39 mm Explorer model if I could afford it.

[Stun]

I inherited a Rolex but it has too much sentimental value to me to wear it in public often.

Can anyone recommend a good spot to get a good Tag or Cartier replica?

I tried the Chinese sites recommended here (taobab) but even on the English buyer sites I couldn't find anything good, only hundreds of pages of junk.

[tbone46]

I have had a few high-end watches and have to say that for chick-bait rolex beats the lesser known watches that may get you more credit amongst "watch guys". To me, for swooping you either want an expensive watch that the girl knows is expensive (and girls know very little about men's watches) or you want to go with a cheap but more funky/fun design that can be a conversation piece. High end watches that woman arent familiar with are a waste and worse women will assume they are cheap since in their minds they think they know alot about all fashion/style topics and so anything they havent heard of must be cheap.

[samsamsam]

Anyone here know how much a Rolex dealer would charge to authenticate a Rolex (pre-buying inspection)?