[kaotic]

Scenario:

Girl you banged a few times and haven't talked in 2 weeks, do a restart text

(Note: She told me this before, we got matched on tinder, I had better options, I follow up, then she says the same thing)

We match on OKC get her number, then bang a few times.

Then this happened:

Kaotic: Did you die of Ebola or what ?
Plate: I did
Kaotic: well that's boring, what else is new ?
Plate: I met someone.

Response:
1. Radio Silence.
2. Well that's boring.
3. Right on, good luck.
4. Well when you're bored of him, I'll talk to you then.

I'm going to go radio silent on her, however I'm curious to what other players would do in this situation.

[robreke]

(11-10-2014 07:28 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Scenario:

Girl you banged a few times and haven't talked in 2 weeks, do a restart text

(Note: She told me this before, we got matched on tinder, I had better options, I follow up, then she says the same thing)

We match on OKC get her number, then bang a few times.

Then this happened:

Kaotic: Did you die of Ebola or what ?
Plate: I did
Kaotic: well that's boring, what else is new ?
Plate: I met someone.

Response:
1. Radio Silence.
2. Well that's boring.
3. Right on, good luck.
4. Well when you're bored of him, I'll talk to you then.

I'm going to go radio silent on her, however I'm curious to what other players would do in this situation.

High road game : "All the best...if it doesn't work out give me a shout"

[robreke]

just got a crazy response to a text:

I direct opened a girl on the sidewalk a few days ago. Told her I thought she was cute. Asked her if she wants to get coffee sometime and she said "maybe" chatted a few minutes and had good eye contact. Number close.

texted her within 30 minutes and she texts back within like one minute.

Then...today texted her how her week was going and she texted this within 2 minutes:

"Yeah been pretty busy with Christmas coming. Robreke don't take this the wrong way but I'm not wanting to be in any sorta relationship with you other than a friend"

How to respond? She texts back quick.....maybe it has something to do with the direct open? Ideas?

[robreke]

(11-11-2014 06:23 PM)robreke Wrote:  

just got a crazy response to a text:

I direct opened a girl on the sidewalk a few days ago. Told her I thought she was cute. Asked her if she wants to get coffee sometime and she said "maybe" chatted a few minutes and had good eye contact. Number close.

texted her within 30 minutes and she texts back within like one minute.

Then...today texted her how her week was going and she texted this within 2 minutes:

"Yeah been pretty busy with Christmas coming. Robreke don't take this the wrong way but I'm not wanting to be in any sorta relationship with you other than a friend"

How to respond? She texts back quick.....maybe it has something to do with the direct open? Ideas?

I texted her back "who said anything about a relationship...haha. that's cool with me. I just thought you seemed cool and it would be nice to get to know each other over coffee or a drink one day."

She immediately texted back " Okay awesome the main reason is because I am 18 " ( holy shit !)

I then texted her asking her if she was free for coffee tomorrow or Thursday and she texted back "got to work thurs. and I'm busy tomorrow :/ "

she's returning texts within 1 or 2 minutes.

.....ask her when she's free or go cold?

[kaotic]

(11-11-2014 06:44 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 06:23 PM)robreke Wrote:  

just got a crazy response to a text:

I direct opened a girl on the sidewalk a few days ago. Told her I thought she was cute. Asked her if she wants to get coffee sometime and she said "maybe" chatted a few minutes and had good eye contact. Number close.

texted her within 30 minutes and she texts back within like one minute.

Then...today texted her how her week was going and she texted this within 2 minutes:

"Yeah been pretty busy with Christmas coming. Robreke don't take this the wrong way but I'm not wanting to be in any sorta relationship with you other than a friend"

How to respond? She texts back quick.....maybe it has something to do with the direct open? Ideas?

I texted her back "who said anything about a relationship...haha. that's cool with me. I just thought you seemed cool and it would be nice to get to know each other over coffee or a drink one day."

She immediately texted back " Okay awesome the main reason is because I am 18 " ( holy shit !)

I am early 40s but look a lot younger. She seems game to meet..for coffee I guess since drinks would be out....

Plausible deniablity on her part, that's fine.

Who says drinks are out ? That's what those mini liquor bottles are for and the hard starbucks plastic cups OR gatorade bottles. You get the picture.

If she wasn't interested she wouldn't be replying and be keen on meeting.

[reco2100]

Ok I think I may have fucked this one up but maybe not. So there is this really attractive MILF that I was banging about a year and a half ago. I was pretty beta back then and she eventually moved away. I was learning enough about game back then to know not to try to chase her or to reach out to her. So last week she calls me out of the blue I was really surprised. She wanted to meet up. Sounded like she was good to go. And this over a short phone call. I acted surprised but not needy just yeah let me see if we can work something into my schedule. We live in different cities but I go to her city for work all the time its driving distance.

We go back and forth on some dates and times and even do a little sex texting. She gets all into it and masturbates gets an orgasm, her words. Then things go a little south. On last Thursday I propose a time to meet for Monday at 12 to meet do lunch and spend the afternoon fucking, and no word for a day. No big deal here is the text exchange after that.

Her: Good morning! I got them late last night when I got home. The part of my phone that charges won't charge in the car and it died on the way to work luncheon yesterday morning lol. No phone all day & night (went to karaoke with mom) Yes! Monday sounds fun 7:44 AM (plausible excuse, remember she is trying to see me though)
Me: Cool busy day call you later 9:20 AM (not being too needy about the long delay, this was on Friday morning)

(Monday morning)
Me: Good morning sexy 7:55 AM (I waited for the entire weekend before contacting her, probably a fail here)
Me: Let's meet out front by the venue at 12 9:29 AM (notice she had not replied to me above)
Her: You said you were going to call Friday so when I never heard from you all weekend, I made a job interview today. Sorry! I figured you weren't interested lol 9:35 AM (its obvious she is butthurt which is not like her)
Me: Hmm...it had been a really busy week and weekend but I was interested 9:43 AM (responded but did not enter her frame)

Remember she is used to me being beta and over-communicating. I am wondering if my different alpha ways will even work with her. We had a good thing for a while and there was a lot of chemistry sexually between us.

So far no contact between either of us. I am looking at two options. Say nothing and wait for her to contact me. Which may not happen. Or send her a feeler text just saying how was the interview, and suggesting another time to meet up.

What do you guys think? Maybe one day I will quit fucking these things up.

[Roardog]

I think you are reading too much into it. It sounds like she is interested but isn't going to put her life on hold for you, hence scheduling the job interview when she didn't hear from you.

You shouldn't have apologised with your last message or overtly expressed interest, that was Beta.

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

[kaotic]

Invite this chick out first meet up at a brewery

"Hmm i might be down"
"Doesn't give me an answer"
"I'll go but I won't drink"

.....what's even the point of going then?

Responses:
Let me guess you don't drink beer?
You're a cocktail/wine kind of girl aren't you?
Why?
Well guess we'll gonto church then (sarcasm)

OR

Hey sorry I made plans with a friend, maybe next time?


This is a total shit test I think.

[reco2100]

Sounds like a shit test to me.

Silence may work.

[Roardog]

Do you care if she doesn't drink?
If you think you'll need a couple in her then I'd follow up with "not a beer kind of girl?" and see why she won't drink.

I had this a couple of times when I went on dates with young girls and they had to drive and so couldn't drink (can't drink during your first 3 years of driving in Australia). Still managed to bang them.

[kaotic]

I don't ever usually drink by myself during a date.

I just sent her the " not a beer kind of girl?"

Im already headed home, she's a horrible texter just like I am.

I'll probably just next this girl.

[Valhalla]

girls have been shit testing my tinder lines with:


whats your success rate with that line

how many girls have you used that on

do you tell that to all the girls

you guys got any good counters?

they're all very similar but I haven't had a good witty line to counter these.

[eradicator]

(11-12-2014 12:56 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

girls have been shit testing my tinder lines with:


whats your success rate with that line
"I never kiss and tell"OR
"I never tinder and tell about it later
how many girls have you used that on
"I don't keep a spreadsheet of that sort of thing
OR
i've lost track
do you tell that to all the girls
only on tinder
you guys got any good counters?

they're all very similar but I haven't had a good witty line to counter these.

youre welcome.

the fact that they are responding is a good sign, just keep on the conversations on point

[Valhalla]

I like all these and used something similar but i think it it plays into their frame and confirms(although in a silly way) that their frame is accurate. I've tried pressure flipping to some success.

Thanks a lot eradicator, you're always very helpful.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-11-2014 07:20 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

What do you guys think? Maybe one day I will quit fucking these things up.

Why did you think telling her you would call her later on Friday and then going radio silent until the day you had discussed possibly meeting up was a good idea. That was entirely you're fuck up, nothing really to do with her. She's probably on the fence about you, otherwise she might've reached out.

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

[Roardog]

(11-12-2014 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

I can see your point but the whole idea of leaving the fine details i.e. X time at X place, to the day is it's a reason to touch base with them on the day to confirm attendance, without coming across as Beta. I've never had a chick flake on me using this method.
I know you're covering that by scheduling girl 2 an hour later but I've never been a fan of that tactic.

[redonion]

Background:
Met this girl out at a bar ~2 weeks ago. We were vibing real well. I isolated her from her friends, she was under my arm whole night, kissed her, etc. I thought the SNL was a shoe-in but she rejected the offer to come back to my place due to an early morning commitment, and when I suggested her place (which was closer) she had some lame excuse. When the night ended she repeatedly told me to call her. I started texting her the following night.

Sunday
Me: Hey <name> its <my name> hows it going?
Her: Hey <my name> I'm good. <some attempt at humor I didn't get> . How are you?
Me: pretty good. u wanna grab drinks tuesday at 830?
Her: Sure where do you want to go?
Me: <location here>
Her: Sounds good. Can you do 8?
Me: ya i think i can swing that. cya then!

Tuesday
Her: Hey I'm leaving work now to go home and sleep. Bad head cold, not pretty. Thought I could power through but am going to have to reschedule tonight, I'm sorry!
Me: hm ok. maybe we can try next week
Her: That sounds good I'm hoping this goes away soon.

Saturday
Me: hey hows it going (I was gonna try to set up plans here, possibly for Sat night)
Her: Hey alright, still sick though. How are you?
Me: im pretty good...sucks about the sickness. you still want to grab a drink sometime? (ya ya, I'm not assuming the sale here. I figured the sickness thing was likely BS so I wanted to just not play games and give her an easy out)
Her: Yes, I hope this goes away soon. Having a fun weekend? (so she's still down...)
Me: pretty good pretty good. <mentioned something I did over the weekend>. I'm free tues and thurs next week so maybe we can figure something out

Monday
Me: drinks tmrw at 8?
Her: I've got a conference, Thursday?
Me: ya lets do it. same place as before
Her: Sounds good!

Wednesday
Her: So i just went to the docter. I've got bronchitis. I assume you do not also want bronchitis so I am going to cancel tomorrow again. I'm sorry.



I gotta be honest, I'm pretty confused as to what to do here. I've had girls drop the "I'm sick sorry!" excuse on me before, but they pretty much never respond to future texts. I believe there's a pretty good chance she's actually sick, and maybe a slight chance she's just using me for validation.


What do I do here? I'm thinking I have these options:
1. NEXT - Seems premature. I'd like to hang with this chick. Maybe if she was less attractive.
2. Proceed the same way I did first time she "flaked" - Comes off a little needy/boring
3. "ok why dont you just let me know when youre not sick" - I can avoid coming off as needy here, but putting the ball in the girl's court almost always means she won't get back to me.
4. Some joke to keep the energy up ("Are you kidding? I LOVE bronchitis") - Could backfire if she doesn't feel it, but the longer it takes to meet up, the less energy there is between us and the less likely my chances are.

[eradicator]

redonion, text back 'k' for now, then just try again in a week, you are overthinking.

[Roardog]

^^ what he said.

People get sick, it happens. If she wasn't interested she wouldn't be responding.

[reco2100]

(11-12-2014 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 07:20 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

What do you guys think? Maybe one day I will quit fucking these things up.

Why did you think telling her you would call her later on Friday and then going radio silent until the day you had discussed possibly meeting up was a good idea. That was entirely you're fuck up, nothing really to do with her. She's probably on the fence about you, otherwise she might've reached out.

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

(11-12-2014 04:19 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

I can see your point but the whole idea of leaving the fine details i.e. X time at X place, to the day is it's a reason to touch base with them on the day to confirm attendance, without coming across as Beta. I've never had a chick flake on me using this method.
I know you're covering that by scheduling girl 2 an hour later but I've never been a fan of that tactic.

Your right. I dont know why I did that. I guess this was my attempt at being aloof. Anyway I texted her tonight just to open her again. With how did your new job go. There was no response. She was pretty keen on hanging out with me and getting right to the fucking.

Now I dont know. Does not look good. Not going to worry about it. But I need to get better at what I present to women.

[eradicator]

(11-12-2014 04:19 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

I can see your point but the whole idea of leaving the fine details i.e. X time at X place, to the day is it's a reason to touch base with them on the day to confirm attendance, without coming across as Beta. I've never had a chick flake on me using this method.
I know you're covering that by scheduling girl 2 an hour later but I've never been a fan of that tactic.

Been covered many times, but if you send a text like "hey I am leaving now, should get there on time or maybe a few minutes late", i don't think that is beta, it is just good texting. if they don't respond, don't go.

[reco2100]

(11-12-2014 01:58 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 07:20 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

What do you guys think? Maybe one day I will quit fucking these things up.

Why did you think telling her you would call her later on Friday and then going radio silent until the day you had discussed possibly meeting up was a good idea. That was entirely you're fuck up, nothing really to do with her. She's probably on the fence about you, otherwise she might've reached out.

(11-11-2014 09:16 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

You're still in it so just try and schedule another time for later in the week and this time don't end the conversation without locking in the day. Leave the details for confirming on the day, but at least confirm that yes, X day we are meeting up.

Poor advice. Lock in the date and time, tell her to put it on her calendar and wear skirt/heels. Double-book another girl for an hour later and cancel on the other chick if this one shows.

So update on this one. I texted her last night just said:

"How is your new job going?"

I heard nothing until this morning then she replied with:

"I did not take the job, still interviewing."

This is interesting because she has been coyly pushing to meetup for sex, but I think she is still a little butthurt but still replying after long wait. So she is still in the game.
I am at a convention in town next to hers about 1.5 hours away.
I am going to text her this let me know what you think?

"I am at a convention at ____ this week...be here through saturday...we should get together...drinks tonight lots of crazy fun...mimosas in the morning"

Let me know what you guys think.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-13-2014 12:07 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

So update on this one. I texted her last night just said:

"How is your new job going?"

I heard nothing until this morning then she replied with:

"I did not take the job, still interviewing."

This is interesting because she has been coyly pushing to meetup for sex, but I think she is still a little butthurt but still replying after long wait. So she is still in the game.
I am at a convention in town next to hers about 1.5 hours away.
I am going to text her this let me know what you think?

"I am at a convention at ____ this week...be here through saturday...we should get together...drinks tonight lots of crazy fun...mimosas in the morning"

Let me know what you guys think.

Are you a job interviewer? Your dialogue with her is boring. It does not spark her imagination, it does not draw intrigue, it doesn't get her wet.

I see two options here:

Option A - Get on Tinder or any of the dating sites and find a lead to meet you for a drink in the lobby of your hotel room (I assume it's reasonably nice?). Double and triple book if you can. Game women at the conference.

Option B - Option A + when you get to your hotel room send her a picture of you suited up in the mirror but with your shirt open/partially unbuttoned, tie in hand, with the bed or the bathroom (if it's especially swank) in the background with one of two texts:

Text 1 - This is the slight humor option, "Do you know how to tie a tie?" (obviously she'll know that you don't need her help to just tie the tie)

Text 2 - "I bet this tie would look sexy wrapped tightly around your..." or something even more imaginative. Think fifty shades of grey but without it being really graphic (women love to fill in the blanks as much as we like to fill them).

To this day the best memory I have of my second girlfriend is her lit up by the soft lighting in the hotel room at the Four Seasons. She was on all fours on the bed and I had her blindfolded with nothing but my tie loosely tied around her neck and a smile beaming across her face. Probably one of my most alpha moments back in my beta days.

[reco2100]

(11-13-2014 02:33 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 12:07 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

So update on this one. I texted her last night just said:

"How is your new job going?"

I heard nothing until this morning then she replied with:

"I did not take the job, still interviewing."

This is interesting because she has been coyly pushing to meetup for sex, but I think she is still a little butthurt but still replying after long wait. So she is still in the game.
I am at a convention in town next to hers about 1.5 hours away.
I am going to text her this let me know what you think?

"I am at a convention at ____ this week...be here through saturday...we should get together...drinks tonight lots of crazy fun...mimosas in the morning"

Let me know what you guys think.

Are you a job interviewer? Your dialogue with her is boring. It does not spark her imagination, it does not draw intrigue, it doesn't get her wet.

I see two options here:

Option A - Get on Tinder or any of the dating sites and find a lead to meet you for a drink in the lobby of your hotel room (I assume it's reasonably nice?). Double and triple book if you can. Game women at the conference.

Option B - Option A + when you get to your hotel room send her a picture of you suited up in the mirror but with your shirt open/partially unbuttoned, tie in hand, with the bed or the bathroom (if it's especially swank) in the background with one of two texts:

Text 1 - This is the slight humor option, "Do you know how to tie a tie?" (obviously she'll know that you don't need her help to just tie the tie)

Text 2 - "I bet this tie would look sexy wrapped tightly around your..." or something even more imaginative. Think fifty shades of grey but without it being really graphic (women love to fill in the blanks as much as we like to fill them).

To this day the best memory I have of my second girlfriend is her lit up by the soft lighting in the hotel room at the Four Seasons. She was on all fours on the bed and I had her blindfolded with nothing but my tie loosely tied around her neck and a smile beaming across her face. Probably one of my most alpha moments back in my beta days.

Dude thanks for the advice. I have followed or am following it to the letter. I am already gaming a chick from before to get her to come out. 22YO blond about a 7, but she is a real flake. She has agreed to come over but not holding my breath.

I am approaching at the convention. My weakest area but I am working on it.

Finally I sent the photo with the text. Knowing this chick she will love it. Use to fuck her rugged back in the day. She would get all worked up and juicy over it.

And yes the hotel is really nice. Not the Four Seasons but just about as nice.

And for the last issue. My text not sounding intriguing or interesting or sexy. I know this. But I am not sure what to do about it. I don't want to keep running to this thread every time a text challenge comes up. I want to be able to do this on my own. I am not a retard, but my texts look like I am. I am experienced successful, and believe I have wit. But when it comes to this shit it's like I cant get out of my own fucking way.

I have read much texting game stuff from here and Krauser and Heartiste. But it does not get that much better. I have been actively gaming women now for almost two years. Still stuck on this. Any suggestions will be awesome. I do follow advice.

[reco2100]

^^ She replied almost right away. She said yummy...

I am just going to invite her out.