National Post article on Men's Rights uses the term "Red Pill".
This is the same paper that has run some rather Red Pill editorials.
This is the same paper that has run some rather Red Pill editorials.
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“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.
Quote: (10-05-2013 03:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
On a tangential note(and maybe this should be a separate thread), do any of you feel that the red pill has made you unhappier? On one hand, I'm glad that I see things for what they are. But I also find myself more cynical than ever, more angry at shit. To the point where it does interfere with my overall happiness. Does anyone else feel this way?
Quote: (10-05-2013 04:02 PM)JimNortonFan Wrote:
Quote: (10-05-2013 03:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
On a tangential note(and maybe this should be a separate thread), do any of you feel that the red pill has made you unhappier? On one hand, I'm glad that I see things for what they are. But I also find myself more cynical than ever, more angry at shit. To the point where it does interfere with my overall happiness. Does anyone else feel this way?
I'm happier than ever. I used to think stuff mattered, that I mattered, that what I did mattered. Now I don't care. I do the best I can and when it's not good enough, whatever. I tolerate other people's issues much more. No more road rage. I look at other people's weakness through the same lens I look at kids.
Go farther with the cynicism.
Quote: (10-05-2013 03:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
On a tangential note(and maybe this should be a separate thread), do any of you feel that the red pill has made you unhappier? On one hand, I'm glad that I see things for what they are. But I also find myself more cynical than ever, more angry at shit. To the point where it does interfere with my overall happiness. Does anyone else feel this way?
Quote: (10-05-2013 03:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
On a tangential note(and maybe this should be a separate thread), do any of you feel that the red pill has made you unhappier? On one hand, I'm glad that I see things for what they are. But I also find myself more cynical than ever, more angry at shit. To the point where it does interfere with my overall happiness. Does anyone else feel this way?
Quote: (10-05-2013 06:28 PM)Roosh Wrote:
Quote: (10-05-2013 03:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
On a tangential note(and maybe this should be a separate thread), do any of you feel that the red pill has made you unhappier? On one hand, I'm glad that I see things for what they are. But I also find myself more cynical than ever, more angry at shit. To the point where it does interfere with my overall happiness. Does anyone else feel this way?
You want me to plug you back into the matrix?
Quote: (10-05-2013 02:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:
The cat is out of the bag. While I won't say our sphere will explode in growth, it won't get smaller. Our ideology has reached a critical mass that ensures fresh minds will continue to develop it for years to come. In essence we've already won, because we aim not for political power or cultural change, but helping individual men with their lives and seeing the truth. Our bar for success is quite modest, but it is being reached.
Quote: (10-05-2013 07:58 PM)kbell Wrote:
I hate the term red pill. Especially because it was coined by the formerly Wachowski brothers now siblings. Basically the one became a tranny.
Quote: (10-06-2013 07:43 PM)wiscanada Wrote:
the guys who did the counter posters at U of Alberta have my respect
Quote: (10-05-2013 09:43 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:
Quote: (10-05-2013 07:58 PM)kbell Wrote:
I hate the term red pill. Especially because it was coined by the formerly Wachowski brothers now siblings. Basically the one became a tranny.
"Red Pill" means very different things to different people, and can fall into the same jingoism and lack of clarity I call reification.
Abtract terms like that get co-opted by the exact forces you are trying to combat, because all powerful forces by definition have money.
What I mean is:
Real Issues where men are treated unfairly which you can intelligently debate:
1) Lifetime alimony when it is almost always paid by men to women out of proportion to their incomes and potential.
2) The fact that 90%+ of workplace deaths are men, and there are no specific programs to combat that.
3) If women get custody more than half the time ( as well as child support despite the men being objectively equally good at parenting and willing.
These are issues that you can discuss in objective terms, for instance the court papers are physically real and list whether the man or woman got custody.
Ambiguous Abstract Issues no one will ever stop arguing about because there is no solution to an abstraction:
1) Feminist philiosophy is bad.
2) We need Red Pill laws.
3) Cultural Marxism is bad.
These are not issues you can discuss objectively. You can argue about what is "red pill" for just as long as you can argue what is "God".
Quote: (10-05-2013 01:55 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:
Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.
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“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.
Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.
Quote: (10-07-2013 08:27 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:
Quote: (10-05-2013 01:55 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:
Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.
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“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.
Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.
The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.
It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).
I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.
Quote: (10-07-2013 09:20 AM)scotian Wrote:
Quote: (10-07-2013 08:27 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:
Quote: (10-05-2013 01:55 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:
Awesome. For whatever reason, it looks like the opening salvo in the mainstream fight against feminism is going to happen in Canada.
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“There are genuine women’s issues that are far more profound, that affect all women, not just small numbers of women. The same can’t be said of men,” said Michael Laxer, a frequent political candidate for the NDP, and now the Socialist Party of Ontario.
Man the NDP sure has become a cancer.
The NDP should stick to labour and working class issues, which is their strength, and forget about gender-bating.
It's obvious they are trying a strategy that has worked for the Democratic Party in the US for the last short while. i.e. Manipulate fake gender issues in order to weight your vote with lower class women voters. Problem for the NDP is that the Democrats have only been successful with this strategy because, in addition to women, they also "race-bait", and have a decent number of black people who will, for some strange reason, vote for them whether it is in their interest or not (and IMO it usually is not).
I don't believe this strategy will succeed in Canada. While it is indeed very easy to "gender-bait" in Canada, "race-baiting" is different and will not go down well. This strategy will not give the NDP a sufficient edge to make up for how much it will ostracise many other voters. Men, older women, non single mother mothers etc.
The NDP have abandoned their old base, working class blue collar union meat heads like me and fully embraced their new base which consists of recent immigrants who want a hand out and not a hand up, environmental whack jobs, the LGBT community and the old hippy socialists. Thankfully, the NDP don't have a snow ball's chance in hell of getting elected federally, especially under that bone head Mulcair.