Quote: (07-02-2010 09:00 PM)BaronStanley Wrote:
somewhere in Texas. No state income tax, low cost of living, friendly ppl (assuming you are white), pretty girls (for america). Austin would be my first choice, followed by Dallas.
Quote: (07-03-2010 01:46 AM)dlmelvin86 Wrote:
cost of living in socal is way to high to make it viable.
too bad we cant create a state that had socals weather, south florida beaches women. that would be heaven on earth!
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Quote: (07-03-2010 02:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Ish,
"
Things I care most about:
Hot intelligent women (I know it is hard to fine them both at the same time but give me some hope)
Good nightlife (to go out and pick up every night if possible)
Lots of targets
Safe neighborhood
Affordable housing
Counter/Intellectual Culture
Huge creative/artistic scene
Things I would absolutely consider a bonus:
Liberal neighbors
A nice beach
Friendly people
Good coffee shops
Great Weed "
I got to say SF is your best bet with that criteria. (minus Affordable housing)
You can add insane restaurants and food to that list too if you go SF.
Or Chicago (where you could add Affordable housing). Add insane restaurants and food with Chicago too.
Quote: (07-03-2010 02:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Ish,
"
Things I care most about:
Hot intelligent women (I know it is hard to fine them both at the same time but give me some hope)
Good nightlife (to go out and pick up every night if possible)
Lots of targets
Safe neighborhood
Affordable housing
Counter/Intellectual Culture
Huge creative/artistic scene
Things I would absolutely consider a bonus:
Liberal neighbors
A nice beach
Friendly people
Good coffee shops
Great Weed "
I got to say SF is your best bet with that criteria. (minus Affordable housing)
You can add insane restaurants and food to that list too if you go SF.
Or Chicago (where you could add Affordable housing). Add insane restaurants and food with Chicago too.
Quote: (07-03-2010 03:45 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Quote: (07-03-2010 02:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Ish,
"
Things I care most about:
Hot intelligent women (I know it is hard to fine them both at the same time but give me some hope)
Good nightlife (to go out and pick up every night if possible)
Lots of targets
Safe neighborhood
Affordable housing
Counter/Intellectual Culture
Huge creative/artistic scene
Things I would absolutely consider a bonus:
Liberal neighbors
A nice beach
Friendly people
Good coffee shops
Great Weed "
I got to say SF is your best bet with that criteria. (minus Affordable housing)
You can add insane restaurants and food to that list too if you go SF.
Or Chicago (where you could add Affordable housing). Add insane restaurants and food with Chicago too.
Ish,
I have lived in the SF area my whole life. It really has everything you are asking for EXCEPT: affordable housing, the average home price is like 700k. Homes in nice areas are 1 million easy. I just bought a 1br condo for 200k but its not in a great area. A nice condo in a nice part of town is 500k easy. AND, THE OTHER THING SF IS LACKING IS HOT WOMEN. Sure, there are tons of cute girls here but its nothing like LA, San Diego, NYC, Miami, or even Chicago, Austin, Atlanta IMO. Feminine Beauty is just not a huge thing out here. Girls don't get all "dolled up" the way they do in other cities. Also, the nightlife is decent but not great. And the weather is not great, we are right on the ocean so we get foggy, windy, colder days alot, even in summer.
80-85k a year is very doable but thats not rich out here. However if you live simply, thats enough.
I think San Diego is better overall. But also expensive if you want to live large.
Quote: (07-04-2010 04:08 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:
Kona,
Is there anywhere worth living off of the Big Island, all things considered, or is the Big Island the best bet for most guys?
Quote: (07-04-2010 04:08 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:
Kona,
Is there anywhere worth living off of the Big Island, all things considered, or is the Big Island the best bet for most guys?
Quote: (07-04-2010 12:44 PM)IshGibbor Wrote:
Quote: (07-03-2010 03:38 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
Quote: (07-03-2010 12:16 AM)IshGibbor Wrote:
1. Good nightlife (to go out and pick up every night if possible) with a lots of targets
2. Safe neighborhood
3. Affordable housing
Choose two.
1. and 2.
Quote: (07-04-2010 02:20 PM)kindredspirit Wrote:
Ish,
You want to be in Berkeley.
Okay, the "hot women" may not be in high quantities (unless you like Asian girls) and there isn't much of a nightlife (you'll need to do more early evening/day game), but you'll get enough university students (esp. foreign ones from abroad) to make things interesting.
All of your other criteria are met, and I've experienced the place myself and enjoyed my time there.
Quote: (07-04-2010 03:57 PM)Kona Wrote:
IshGibbor,
When talking about anything relating to the USA, I hate to include Hawaii, but it's the 4th of July!
Based on what I've just read, it sounds you should move to Honolulu. You would kill it out here on 80k a year. You're into physical therapy. There's a major shortage of medical people out here, you'd find a job no problem.
You would have to learn a new language, but Pidgin is really easy to pick up.
Food and various consumer goods are way more expensive, because of the shipping involved. The other downside is that no matter where you travel from here, you have to plan on at least a 6 hour flight starting out. But, if you are looking for a weekend trip, you can interisland travel.
Here's some answers to the things you care about most:
Hot intelligent women- Hang out at the college bars
Good nightlife- 3 major areas of bars
Lots of targets- I don't know the numbers, but there are so many more women then men, then there's the tourists. Asian girls!
Safe neighborhood- There's some dirty spots, but nobody has guns
Affordable housing- Probably the same as CA, rent-wise. You won't be able to buy on your budget and still save. Property taxes are evil.
Counter/Intellectual Culture- You could hook up with the Hawaiian Sovereignty people and reestablish the Independent Hawaiian Nation
Huge creative/artistic scene- There's museums and festivals and whatnot
Things I would absolutely consider a bonus:
Liberal neighbors- ME
A nice beach- Best beaches in the world. Our water is the cleanest, and state laws keep all beaches public.
Friendly people- Islands of Aloha! Check out our demographics. "White Americans" make up only 27% of our population. I bet that number is way lower these days with the economy and the banks foreclosing away all of their summer houses.
Good coffee shops- Only state that grows coffee
Great Weed- Best in the world, and the medical marijuana laws are extremely liberal. All I had to do was take copies of old military documents that say I was in Iraq and they gave me a license. I don't do it, but,I can have 6 ready to harvest plants, 6 growing plants, and 12 seedlings. Plus, the cops don't care about weed, aka pakalolo.
Think about it.
Aloha!
Quote: (07-04-2010 04:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (07-04-2010 04:08 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:
Kona,
Is there anywhere worth living off of the Big Island, all things considered, or is the Big Island the best bet for most guys?
I think Kona lives on Oahu.
Ish, I agree with Kona, Hawaii would be another option.
Keep in mind, there are plenty of people in Southern California that live on way less than 85k per year.
The thing is, they don't travel for sh#t (Southern Californians, although never talked about, are very un-traveled in my experience. Your average cat probably hasn't been to NYC. Serious.), or they don't go out heavy, and/or they are most likely 30k in the hole on credit cards.
Real talk.
Quote: (07-06-2010 12:53 AM)Brandon E Wrote:
A place that used to be awesome for middle class citizens was Las Vegas. You used to be able to get out of school and go find a job making $20 an hour to start off, and only pay $350-400 a month. This was very common. I responded to an add in the paper one day, first place I called, it was hooking up cable for our local cable company. The pay was $7-1200 a week, and I was an 18 year old punk right out of highschool. Too bad I didn't pass the UA test they popped on me. Construction used to be huge in Vegas and pay well. Henderson, Vegas' biggest suberb, used to be the fastest growing city in the nation for a while. A lot of other well paying jobs for middle class citizens include deal (tables, but drugs too), bartending, stripping, valet/bell, waitressing. Some of the guys that work those jobs are even upper class. The head bellman of the Venetian makes some where around $2-300k a year from what I've heard. I think that's why college might not be as big of a deal in Las Vegas than many other places (Could also be the sinful way of life). The economy went WAY downhill though a couple of years ago when we went into a recession. People aren't going to Vegas to waist money they don't have, so Vegas got hit hard. I see it coming back though in the near future. My friends say it is getting much better, and they have opened many new attractions, such as city center.
Percs:
Beautiful women all over who are relatively easy to meet. I feel you didn't put in too much work if you couldn't at least get a make out on the strip.
Awesome house parties going on all the time. I feel like if you are living there for a couple of months it wouldn't be hard to find a good connection out there if you play your cards right. A lot of Las Vegas is who you know and how you know how to hustle. It seems the big parties are getting less and less comon as people grow up, but there are still plenty of get togethers and the like.
Lots of good clubs everywhere, of corse.
A lot more outdoor things to do than you would think. We have a lake, river, lots and lots of bike, truck, ATV, etc. trails in the dessert and a ski mountain. Also, the beach is only a 3 1/2-4 drive and California is right next door. For anyone going to Vegas, I suggest checking out Nelson. Its a ghost town with a bunch of caves and old closed down mines around it that you can check out (not the mines, the caves). It's also the place where they "blew up" that 5 story barn in 3000 Miles to Graceland. The barn's still there and there's an old World War II plane cemetery. It's pretty nuts. 10 miles outside of town is the Colorado River and there's an awesome spot out there to camp and spend the day drinking beer. There are all sorts of cliffs to jump off of into the water ranging from 5-70 feet. In my highschool years, it was extremely common to find groups of 100+ people from the ages of 16-25 getting hammered with 2-3 kegs. Last time I went there though, it was more like 20 mexican families and was a lot dirtier than it used to be. Reguardless, it's a cool place and I could have just gone on a bad weekend.
A lot to do period. Tons of shows, Restaraunts, Strip Clubs, conventions, and all sorts of other different events going on.
It's always sunny In Las Vegas. We get more than 300 days of sunshine a year, I love it.
No natural disasters really. Every couple years we'll get a couple of flash floods, and maybe every 10+ years we get bad floods. I've only seen it once in my life to where it ever really did much damage, which wasn't even comparable to really any of the hundreds of natural disasters that occur in Cali, the South, or the Midwest.
Negatives:
It's hot as fuck, all the time in the summer, even at night. And the winter is fairly cold (At least I thought so before I moved to CO). There are only maybe 3 months of what I would consider mild/nice weather.
You have to have a lot of self control to live there. You have so many options of vices from drugs, to gambling, to alcohol and everything in between.
It seems as though people are extremely superficial, even more so than most places. Most of my generation in Vegas Are Vegas born or California born with families who grew up in CA, which can be a pretty superficial place as well. But those guys sure know how to have fun.
The traffic sucks, but not quit as bad as California. Doesn't even compare to a city like Sao Paulo. But reguardless, some mornings it would take me an hour to go around 15 miles, others it would take 20-30 mins.
The clubs are really expensive, and Vegas can be real expensive all together, but that's if you are balling out. I would compare it to Brazil in terms of if you want to live it up and be high class, you are gonna spend a lot. But if you are just trying to get by and only go out maybe once or twice a week and keep a good budget, it is very easy to get by.
A lot of Vegas is pretty white trash and if I know the forum like I think I do, it will probably get pretty anoying to you. In some ways it's the
It's pretty ugly for the most part. There are some nice spots though if you go outside town, such as Lake Mead, Mt. Charelston, The Colorado River, and some pretty crazy shit your gonna find in the dessert, like the gost towns.
It's pretty polluted, but again, doesn't compare to a City like Sao Paulo or LA.
As far as economics go, like I said, it's not looking good right now. But now is an awesome time to buy, and if Vegas gets
back on track to where it was 4-5 years ago, it is a great place to invest. My father bought his house around 10 years ago for $150k. It had to have been 3 or 4 years later it was worth half a million. It went almost all the way back down to $150 again though once the recession hit. I would never live in Vegas again, and I would never raise a family there, but I wouldn't have really wanted to grow up anywhere else. It's an awesome place, I liked living there, but I feel I have a lot to do in my life and 20 years in Vegas was plenty for me. It's time to see other places. Not to mention most people I know aren't doing anything with their lives that stayed in Vegas. Not saying they aren't making money and have houses at 23, but they just date and bang the same girls they did in highschool and party with the same kids. I couldn't imagine living that way still. It's always the same every time I go back. Nothing changes except some chick got knocked up in highschool by some dude whos friend probably banged her a couple of years ago. A couple people get married, a couple get divorced a year. That's just kinda what my friends who stayed in vegas lives are like with a few exceptions if you grow up there.
