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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-10-2013, 05:44 PM
Open thread to discuss Tuesdays state of the union address. We know its all talk by the President. His goals blah blah blah. I hope he addresses immigration. After four years of no progress or even an attempt to address the problem, hooefully he has some type of plan.
Other than that, social security, defict reduction, resolution to the budget, gun control, etc is all hot air. Congress will not come together on any major issues for a while. No real hope for change. All you can do is try to hide your asshole from the govt as much ass possible.
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-10-2013, 05:51 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if he tries to sell us on climate change.
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02-10-2013, 06:05 PM
Every State of the Union is a ramble of hot hair.
Remember his "This is America's Sputnik moment" speech?
When was that 2009?
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-10-2013, 07:18 PM
He didn't touch the economy in his inauguration address so I expect him to at least drop some hot verbal bricks on the forthcoming cuts he will drop with his next budget. Congress - on both sides - have been stalling on the inevitable, that both sides have to figure out how they are going to sell out the American people on entitlements and services. I expect Obama to drop tough rhetoric on this because he really has no other choice. he has a clear sail to bring in some "fiscal reform" so its best to set that tone now. I also expect Obama to drop strong rhetoric on Africa, the strongest we have heard since the fairly tales of Bush on Niger yellow cake way back in 2002.
The State of the Union address IMO is the only time when the President loosely tells the truth, reading between the lines of what is said its once of the few times you can link somewhat the hot hair to the policy they are trying to implement. Grand promises - both empty and kept, are always made, but it is as much as a legacy stump as anything else and the POTUS can't resist trying to drop a steaming gem that will forever be immortalized - for better or for worse.
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-10-2013, 08:05 PM
Interesting Kosko, is the potential Africa rhetoric to fight the growing influence of China on the continent?
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-10-2013, 11:17 PM
I'm not gonna let some silly speech ruin my Mardi Gras. I need to work my way through my whiskey stash before Wednesday when I quit drinking until Easter.
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-12-2013, 01:32 PM
It will have a bunch of rhetoric about gun control, the environment and gay rights. Immigration will be focused on as well (DREAM Act again unless they revamp that). Legacy-building indeed.
@Kosko: This guy has the momentum and the ball. I think he will keep pushing for what he wants....HARD. What does he have to lose? He is running circles around the Beta-like opposition and has a complicent/favorable news media. He will have tough words for the opposition and will push his agenda as far as he can. The sequester situation is looming large, so he will take the opportunity to kick the House in the nuts on that.
I am not sure on Africa. There is some action there in Mali and Yemen, but it is still too hot with Benghazi. Unless he is dedicating more assets to Mali to help the French, I am not sure he will touch it.
He will talk about Afghanistan and remind everyone that the troops are coming home in 2014, which is a good thing really. The Afghanistan operation has been treading water for some time with no end in sight. It is time for Afghanistan to stand on their own and for Pakistan to stop getting paid.
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02-12-2013, 01:37 PM
I expect him to push drone strikes on Americans.
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02-12-2013, 02:47 PM
It is true, Therapsid. I have been in charge of and written a number of reports for DOTs and other agencies, especially early in my career. We needed to keep our reports on an 8th grade level to make sure the folks who had the money and made the decisions could understand the report. Yes, we would produce a technical memorandum, shove it in the Appendix, and write a report and executive summary for the "less tech saavy."
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-12-2013, 10:02 PM
That's a lot of very powerful men and women in that room, but they're all oh-so-dirty.
I suppose I would take an active interest in it if I felt it my voice would be heard or I had a job affected by the political landscape, but I don't feel that way.
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02-12-2013, 10:04 PM
We don't need bigger or smaller government, we need smarter government!" -Barack Obama, every State of the Union Speech he made
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02-13-2013, 12:59 AM
Ha ha! I saw that. Would have been awesome if he burped after taking the swig! He also wiped the sweat from the right side of his face twice (at least). Welcome to the big time, Marco!
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-13-2013, 07:59 AM
Quote: (02-12-2013 02:30 PM)Therapsid Wrote:
But it seems to me to still show American politicians have gotten dumber over time.
obama may speak like a 9th grader in this context (live on tv, watched by average americans) but remember that he was president of the harvard law review and taught constitutional law at the university of chicago law school.
regardless of political affiliations, anyone who has studied law will recognise that this man is a genius. when i studied law, every law professor could comfortably speak for 3 hours without notes, could recall and analyse for the class hundreds of complex cases, and could obliterate even the most intelligent and well prepared of uppity law students. you only reach the position of professor by dominating law school as a student - taking out prizes, publishing original essays, winning prestigious competitions.
all of these law professors were extremely erudite, articulate and sophisticated in their use of the english language. obama would be no different.
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-13-2013, 08:01 AM
On the immigration issue, I recommend vdare.com in order for a more thorough understanding of the pros and cons of immigration. Immigration is breaking the back of many state budgets, and creating a whole new underclass who will soon be voting for increasing amounts of extortion.
As for green initiatives, they're stupid, don't work, expensive and anything we do will be nullified by Chinese and Indian pollution anyways. A better way is to tax imports from countries that pollute a lot (like China). It would work even better if the EU joined in on such a tariff.
And of course, no talk about the devastating effect the current monetary and fiscal policy is having on the economy. While the narrative will be controlled by the progessives and will paint Obama to be a success, he will end up being far worse than Bush.
To be fair, I applaud his idea to lower corporate taxes but I can't stress how bad an idea a minimum wage is.
Obama doesn't seem to do too well if he doesn't have a teleprompter. He sounds like any other well-read high-IQ individual. Very good. But exceptional?? Nah. Still better than Bush though.
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State of the Union 12Feb2013 Open Thread
02-13-2013, 11:46 AM
Quote: (02-13-2013 07:59 AM)babababalot Wrote:
Quote: (02-12-2013 02:30 PM)Therapsid Wrote:
But it seems to me to still show American politicians have gotten dumber over time.
obama may speak like a 9th grader in this context (live on tv, watched by average americans) but remember that he was president of the harvard law review and taught constitutional law at the university of chicago law school.
regardless of political affiliations, anyone who has studied law will recognise that this man is a genius. when i studied law, every law professor could comfortably speak for 3 hours without notes, could recall and analyse for the class hundreds of complex cases, and could obliterate even the most intelligent and well prepared of uppity law students. you only reach the position of professor by dominating law school as a student - taking out prizes, publishing original essays, winning prestigious competitions.
all of these law professors were extremely erudite, articulate and sophisticated in their use of the english language. obama would be no different.
What constitutional law did he teach ?
I may not be american but I don't recall the constitution ever giving the president the power to drone strike americans. Or to go to war without congressional approval ie. Libya. Where in the constitution does it say Obama can force you to BUY healthcare ?
Point being he is not what everything thinks he is. A constitutional scholar is probably the furthest thing besides maybe a nobel peace prize winner.
So it is not surprising to me that he doesn't speak higher than an 8th grade level.
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